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Phoenix Oysters ....
    #10278132 - 05/03/09 12:56 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This will be my growlog for my Phoenix Oyster blocks and Ill update it as things progress. Mods, I originally posted this in the growlog section but have been told that Phoenix oysters dont form clusters like other oyster species, but instead form individual fruits. Due to this advice I need to ask the forum some questions and I wanted to post this here. If you want to delete the other thread since its a duplicate certainly feel free.

So heres what I have going guys .... if Phoenix oysters dont form clusters, does that mean that I shouldnt be fruiting them from holes in the bucket and sacks as seen below? I suppose I could always remove the lid from the bucket and unwrap the blocks from the sack so they are completely exposed. Any input here would be great.

I have 2 blocks and 1 bucket in total of this species that just got put into the greenhouse today. The first one pictured Im not sure about. It has been MOSTLY colonized ... as in ... when I look at the block it is fully colonized for the most part (with the exception of the edges that have dried out) but its somewhat whispy and not near as thick as some of the other blocks. In my experience, this might point to contamination but there is none I can see so I put it in the FC anyway to see what will happen.





These two look much better to me, although I suspect they will all be fine even the top block. One bucket of wheat straw and then a bag with paper products as a substrate (shredded office paper, papwer towels, cardboard, used coffee filters and grinds).

One quart of grain spawn was used to spawn the bucket and the paper block. The wheat straw bag pictured first that Im wondering about I used some colonized paper. That could be why it seems to not have colonized as well.







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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10278198 - 05/03/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, they liked to pin all over the place wherever they can get fresh air. see if they fruit out of the holes, but they might not. This is probably because it was my first grow

Here is a link to show them clustering and pinning out of holes:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9732072#9732072

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: ABC]
    #10278222 - 05/03/09 01:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

hmmm ... well those certainly look like they are clustering for the most part. At least the holes I have cut look like they will be sufficient.

..... and - it looks like the block where he cut a single hole in it did the best?

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10279638 - 05/03/09 06:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I wish i could be off help with your Questions.  I am glad to see this thread. I am about to start growing some phoneix . It is getting hot outside. Keep us posted with your results. GOOD LUCK

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: SOUTHERN]
    #10280299 - 05/03/09 08:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Will do, it looks like things will be just fine the way I have them set up... and I believe its better to let them fruit from the bags anyway to avoid drying out.

I guess we'll see!

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10280355 - 05/03/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Im going to be watching this.What cycle you have you timer on Ozz?


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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: nw_shroomy]
    #10280440 - 05/03/09 08:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well ... I had it at 1.5 minutes on 10 minutes off and it was about perfect all last week. Today though it was getting warm and I turned on the air. Holy shit did it mess things up for me... Ive had to bump it up to about 3 minutes every 10 to keep it up around 98%.

I really wish they made a humidistate that had a probe and could be adjusted to kick the outlet on when humidity dropped below a certain level.

I would buy one in a heart beat. All the ones Ive seen only are adjustable up to 80%.

Anyone know of one that goes up to 90 or 95% or so?

Edited by OZZ (05/03/09 08:27 PM)

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10280518 - 05/03/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You would think a easy to locate humidistat would be on the market. I don't know of one though or i'd have one. I need to get my phoenix on agar.. then onto LC..

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: SOUTHERN]
    #10283017 - 05/04/09 10:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I hear ya ... Im going to start another thread about this to get more input. Its exactly what this hobby is missing.

Feel free to add any input in that thread.

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10283384 - 05/04/09 12:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

My last laundry basket grow of Phoenix Oysters formed clusters out the ying-yang with neglect that almost required social services to be called.

You should have clusters popping all over your buckets and bags.

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: Brennus]
    #10283493 - 05/04/09 12:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I really wish they made a humidistate that had a probe and could be adjusted to kick the outlet on when humidity dropped below a certain level.





greenair makes what you want OZZ. hydro users use them regularly in their grow rooms. humidity control is important for them too.

here's a link for you--they aren't cheap by any means.humidty controllers

hope this helps.
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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: houdinihar]
    #10286512 - 05/04/09 08:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Ozz, is the phoenix considered a warm weather oyster?


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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: nw_shroomy]
    #10286520 - 05/04/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ahhh, Phoenix oyster = Italian oyster.

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: Grzyby]
    #10286529 - 05/04/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, phoenix is definately considered warm weather... even up into the 80's I hear

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10304781 - 05/07/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well, my phoenix oysters are pinning up a storm!

I have one straw bag, one straw bucket, and one paper bag. The paper bag is pinning up a storm and the bucket is pinning less, but with much more size.

So I look a little closer at the bag, and there are some nice clusters coming out the holes I cut .. BUT there are TONS of pins underneath the plastic everywhere that couldnt get out. Theres no way I could have cut holes everywhere so I decided to just cut the bag off entirely and put it in the greenhouse. I hope this will be ok. My RH is pegged at 99% with 4 full air exchanges per hour.

I didnt know what else to do there was a TON of them as you can see in the pics here. They are all deformed right now but I bet they will come around now that they are exposed to fresh air.

I guess we will see!

Heres the bucket .. it has a few other clusters on the other side like this:



And heres the paper product bag before I took it out of the bag:





...... and here is after I stripped the bag:







Here you can see some of the many, many pins that wouldnt have developed had I kept it in the bag:










What do you guys think.... bad move taking it out of the bag????

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10304835 - 05/07/09 08:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know .. i have wondered about that.. don't let it dry out ... Everything looks good

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: SOUTHERN]
    #10305146 - 05/07/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe you could put some vermiculite on it like a cake? At least that should help with moisture retention

I think taking it out of the bag was a good move. You'll get prettier fruits this way

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: ABC]
    #10306181 - 05/08/09 01:56 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This look good. I look forward to see how the result will be.

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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: Kyriastik]
    #10326249 - 05/12/09 08:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well, there not doing so hot due to lack of FAE.


The bucket had a nice cluster I thought I would get to harvest ... and now it looks like its trying to pin off of the fruits! ??  WTF lol ...

I Have humidity at above 95% at all times, and closer to 100% according to my human hair hygrometer.

So I now that this is because of lack of air flow. I guess maybe I need to put a coolmist in there or something to add more FAE because having the ultrasonic running isnt doing it and Ild really rather not cut holes in the greenhouse. Maybe thats the best way though? These have not dropped spores btw not that I know of .... they just started pinning off themselves.







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Re: Phoenix Oysters .... [Re: OZZ]
    #10327486 - 05/12/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes they did that a lot. They fruited MUCH better after I got a coolmist for them

Otherwise they lacked FAE and pinned everywhere

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