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Offlinekykeon
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Discussion for the different looks of the GT
    #1027635 - 11/06/02 12:04 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Hello all

i had a nice discussion with Derrayld about the different looks the GT strain (golden teacher) appear to have.



There is the GTa type, which looks like an EQ and there is the GTb type which looks exactly as a golden teacher should be. The pointy cap that reminds us of a chinese hat, perhaps of a chinese 'golden' teacher :wink: lol

The question is why on the same casing most of them appear NOT to have the distinctive point cap?

The following picture proves that differences occur inside a small region of the mycelium:



So, lets share our experiences with the GT strain. What results do you have? Is there a problem in the strain itself or is it a matter of nutrients or terrarium conditions? Imho its important to discuss this, because there is no reason to cultivate GTs if they are gonna be like EQ. The whole key is the pointy cap!

:smile:

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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: kykeon]
    #1027714 - 11/06/02 12:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

>because there is no reason to cultivate GTs if they are gonna be like EQ.

What would be wrong with the GT in that case?


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Anno]
    #1027766 - 11/06/02 01:05 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

What would be wrong with the GT in that case? 




nothin is wrong. is just a matter of personal perspective. i dont mind making high yields, but i definately pursue ideal-shaping mushrooms.

when i am birthing a GT casing, i wanna produce perfect GT shrooms, thats all.

:wink:

so Anno do you happen to know why the GT behaves like that?

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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: kykeon]
    #1027795 - 11/06/02 01:13 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

High Kykeon,

A perfect GT. My most beautifull GT's are always in the second flush.
Today I had a nice harvest Plantasia. Most had the nice cap, but not all.
To me they are all perfect.

But I realy have no idea who that diversety excist, I know that it is nature and always around :laugh:

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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: MeneerCactus]
    #1027810 - 11/06/02 01:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The pic of GTa looks just like my z-strain which apparently is a GT with a fancy name. Nice rounded cap it has...


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: MeneerCactus]
    #1030990 - 11/07/02 03:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

High Eric!

Quote:

But I realy have no idea who that diversety excist, I know that it is nature and always around




okee i can stick with that.

does anyone had a high ratio of pointy shaped GTs in his casings? perhaps if we discuss it a little more you guyz, we can find somethin! imagine if there is a way [eg nutrients] to have most if not all of gt shrooms in a casing look like chinese hats!

com'on you guyz!

share your GT experiences with me!  :laugh:

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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Cheeba]
    #1031016 - 11/07/02 03:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

looks just like my z-strain




hm...

do we know the history of z-strain? somethin is worth discussing in here... i mean Thais are always Thais, they dont look like Ecuadors. Why is this mess around GT and Z ?

perhaps we should all sit our bottoms lol down and make a list of which strains are what

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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: kykeon]
    #1031966 - 11/07/02 11:46 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I got a some Z-strain incuubating right now, did you get it from that bastard the Keeper? I can't belive that guy dooped me out of $450 bucks, but oh well live and learn I guess. I have also heard that the his Z-strain is GT, but it will be another 2 weeks before I find out for sure.


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Se77vN]
    #1031992 - 11/07/02 11:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I have Z-strain and GT fruits at the same time, in a friend aquarium. They do not look the same to me, I think that them being the same is a false assumption. The Z-Strain as said earlier have much more pointy caps, and are much lighter from the beginning. The fruits do not get quite as big, but bluing seems to be nearly the same (VERY deep bluing effect, as compared to say cambo)


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: kykeon]
    #1032009 - 11/07/02 12:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

my gt shrooms are  darn small,and others say that they grow to be medium to large shrooms .now i hawe grown monstrous eq and pesa strain shrooms and
gt is nowhere near these two. but they look like gt should  :smile:


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Se77vN]
    #1032012 - 11/07/02 12:04 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

dooped me out of $450 bucks




what did u buy???? 450$ is an awful lot of money!

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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: kykeon]
    #1032025 - 11/07/02 12:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Grow kit $300, Z-strain syerenge $90, Keepers brew $50, Shipping $20.

Kicking yourself in the ass when you find this site...Priceless.  :wink: 


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Se77vN]
    #1032038 - 11/07/02 12:15 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

$300 for a freaking growkit???
Did it come with a house or a car???
Or wait I see now, ok you got a boat with it, I should have known.
:laugh:

Poor guy, who ever you purchased that shit from deserves to be removed from his business premises for loitering.


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Se77vN]
    #1032078 - 11/07/02 12:35 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:


Grow kit $300, Z-strain syerenge $90, Keepers brew $50, Shipping $20.

Kicking yourself in the ass when you find this site...Priceless.




lol. :grin:


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Raadt]
    #1032413 - 11/07/02 02:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The z-strain that I am growing has a nice rounded cap...no points at all.
*wonders to herself what z-strain REALLY is*
Maybe z-strain happens to be what keeper pulls out of his ass....an unmarked syring goes as z-strain...LOL
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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Cheeba]
    #1032474 - 11/07/02 02:53 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

just to share my few experiences with gt strain that i LOVE...
i've had as you say 2 types of gts, but most of them didn't have a pointy cap and some even had a conic shape (like another i-dont-remember-the-name strain)
and here is a link to a thread about a single casing with a lot of mutants...
Freak Casing Evolution


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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: canid]
    #1032603 - 11/07/02 03:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, I know that guy is a freaking criminal!!! The thing is I did not do any homework when I first started this whole thing. I just went to his site and it said it came with everything needed to start growing, so I figured that was just the price for everything needed. Needless to say when it came I was very dissapointed, everything that was sent I could have bought at wally world for about 100 bucks! PC and all. I wish there was something that could be done about this bastard, all his is, is a HYPE.
Don't believe me here is his fucked up site! www.shrooms.cc
Anybody know how to hack, maybe you could throw a few kinks in it for me?? =)
JK. So if you know anybody that is thinking about buying from that guy...tell them for me that it is the worst thing they could possibly do. Peace
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Re: Discussion for the different looks of the GT [Re: Cheeba]
    #1035225 - 11/08/02 08:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

what i get from the picture here is that vendors are competing themselves, trying to find better wayz to sell more.

the SporeTradingPost actually has pics of what they sell, but those pics are the SAME with the originals pics found at Fungi Perfecti. :wink:

there is a mess about the strains, because each vendor can easily baptize whatever he wants as anything. That is known and we cant do much about it, apart from discussing it so as less and less shroomers buy from shitty vendors.

So it seems that GT strain is forming two kind of caps: round and pointy. There are also other strains that produce pointy caps. So, how did we come to the conclusion that GT are different from other strains eg Z ? Perhaps its one degenerated EQ or any other simple cubbie that produce some variety of different caps.

My question remains unanswered though; we have all seen from personal experience that substrate materials and terrarium conditions are factors that alter the final appearance of the shrooms. I am wondering, if GT is a pure strain of cubbies, that means that it was originally by nature grown at some place on this planet, with some specific habitat. If we knew that, and were able to recreate that enviroment or substrate, we could create perfectly pointy cap GTs. Perhaps we feed the GT mycelium with substrates that are okee, but not exactly what preferred.

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