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Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law?
#10270713 - 05/01/09 09:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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So.
Apparently this new Swine H1N1 is a product of Bird Flu, Swine Flu, and several Human Flu strains. Some are insisting that this is only possible through gene splicing and not the natural evolution of the virus.
My concern is this.
If the Avian Flu has a mortality rate of 80-90%, and this new H1N1 has a mortality rate of 6%, why is there so much buzz in the media about it? Could it be to start panic throughout the populous? 36,000 people die in the U.S. each year from "normal" influenza strains. Is there a real serious threat, or is it to start panic?
Will this be the reason for declaring martial law soon?
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10270716 - 05/01/09 09:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Will this be the reason for declaring martial law soon?
Only if you're a citizen of Mexico.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Redstorm]
#10270755 - 05/01/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess so.
I mean, it seems to be nowhere near as dangerous as Avian Flu, yet it's getting much more attention.
Maybe it's because it got into this country whereas Avian didn't (I think).
Could that just be the reason? Now that I think about it, I suppose it could be.
What about how some people insist that this could only be accomplished through gene splicing? Do you think that's B.S.?
Any geneticists here?
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10270773 - 05/01/09 09:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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There was just an article saying how the flu isnt nearly as dangerous as it was thought to be. This is hardly reason to declare martial law.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: learningtofly]
#10270779 - 05/01/09 09:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah but my point is then why all of the fuss about it?
I mean, it's like every five minutes you hear or see something pertaining to it.
Seems like they're trying to induce a panicked state-of-mind or something!
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10270798 - 05/01/09 09:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushroomhunter10 said: Yeah but my point is then why all of the fuss about it?
I mean, it's like every five minutes you hear or see something pertaining to it.
Seems like they're trying to induce a panicked state-of-mind or something!
probab;y cuz they fucked up on katrina and they are safe than sorry
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: learningtofly]
#10270807 - 05/01/09 09:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah possibly.
I guess nothing would surprise me at this juncture.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10270907 - 05/01/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushroomhunter10 said: So.
Apparently this new Swine H1N1 is a product of Bird Flu, Swine Flu, and several Human Flu strains. Some are insisting that this is only possible through gene splicing and not the natural evolution of the virus.
actually, pigs are kind of weird in that they have cell surface protein receptors (that influenza recognizes) of not only their own, but share extremely similar ones to both birds and humans. this means they can act as a literal biological splicing factory, where multiple strains of influenza can literally stew together and exchange genetic information.
this stroke of unluck (for pigs, genetically) combined with the disgusting practices of modern day industrial meat farms, has opened the door to the rise of some extremely nasty pathogens. multiple-antibiotic resistant bacteria are commonplace, since so many antibiotics are used just to keep the poor things alive.
here is a good video questioning the risk to human health and safety that these corporate agri-biz farming techniques cook up.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Yrat]
#10272091 - 05/02/09 06:44 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yrat:
Interesting.
Do you study genetics or pathology??
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10272209 - 05/02/09 07:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes, i did study lots of genetics and microbiology, my undergrad major was biochemistry, cellular and molecular biology.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Yrat]
#10272241 - 05/02/09 07:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice.
I wonder why there is such a buzz about this one then.
Like I was saying, it only seems to have a 6% mortality rate. Yet something like Avian Flu has 80-90%!
If you look at healthmap.org and view some of the "markers" in The U.S. You'll see that Avian Flu is also in The States too. Why isn't there any fuss about that?
I don't get it. To me it seems like they're trying to induce a panicked state or something.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Yrat]
#10272242 - 05/02/09 07:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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good questions, i much prefer this angle of "conspiracy theory," except for the fact that it's 100% true:
Gilead Sciences, the company that owns the rights to antiviral treatment Tamiflu, stands to make billions from a worldwide pandemic, not to mention from simple fear and panic stirred up by the media. and guess who served as Gilead chairman from 1997 until 2001 when he joined the Bush administration? Rumsfeld. i mean, you can't make this shit up. you might say he is very well positioned for a spike in stock prices resulting from a worldwide scare.
here is an article from 2005 when it was the avian flu scare.
some more links:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1148
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jay-gordon/tamiflurumsfeldh1n1-redux_b_191606.html
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Yrat]
#10272250 - 05/02/09 08:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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WTF!
That fucking ASSHOLE was also the responsible for getting Aspartame approved for Human consumption!
Those fucking Neocons!!
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Yrat]
#10272253 - 05/02/09 08:05 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I recall hearing about Rummy being instrumental in bringing us the wonders of aspartame (and securing a tidy profit in the process of course). What a douche!
EDIT
funny we were thinking of the same thing.
Edited by Mr.Al (05/02/09 08:06 AM)
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Mr.Al]
#10272260 - 05/02/09 08:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's no wonder why the elitists want to stop net neutrality...
It's the only truth left.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10272284 - 05/02/09 08:22 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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The internet will shortly replace the TV. "They" do not want to lose their propaganda machine!
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Mr.Al]
#10272290 - 05/02/09 08:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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i stumbled onto therealnews.com the other night, they seem to investigate some of the more real questions that mainstream media seems to avoid. hopefully this outlet stays strong, they do some great reporting. the swine flu vid link i posted earlier was to their site.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: Yrat]
#10272303 - 05/02/09 08:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah.
LibertyNewsTV is another nice outlet.
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10272597 - 05/02/09 10:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some are insisting that this is only possible through gene splicing and not the natural evolution of the virus.
omg
yet some are not insisting it. why do you choose to listen to the fear-mongers and robot sheep?
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Re: Swine H1N1 - A reason to declare martial law? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10272606 - 05/02/09 10:21 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah but my point is then why all of the fuss about it?
I mean, it's like every five minutes you hear or see something pertaining to it.
Seems like they're trying to induce a panicked state-of-mind or something! -------------------
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Why else?
Media makes money by keeping people hooked- "Tonight at 11, want to stay alive and not the bringer of a deadly quickly spreading virus to your young children and have the blood of the destruction of 100's of people on your soul? Watch channel el ocho for the latest tips and tricks!"
Tamiful's maker, makes money. Talking about big ca-ching-ching.
Hospital, do they make money? Maybe but I dont think its because hospitals and doctors are evil, maybe I'm just baised studying med.
The day I make some money, enough to invest, it's all going into big pharma.
(By the way your question could directly apply to global warming/cooling/climate change w/e the fuck people want to flip-flop to now adays. Why keep talking about it? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
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