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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: jackmomoff]
#10266239 - 04/30/09 10:49 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm gay and I'm sort of against gay marriage. Not really against per se... but marriage in the religious context doesn't seem right. Religious folk don't want homos defiling their morals and that's fine by me. Legal bonding, that should be just fine, right?
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: Brugman]
#10266269 - 04/30/09 10:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Marriage need'nt be confined to religion. Plenty of straight atheists wed, no? I'm gay and have absolutely no intention of marrying, yet I'll gladly support the right of those who want to marry to do so.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: lavod]
#10266296 - 04/30/09 11:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Should atheists should get married in the traditional sense? They could have other ceremonies in place of a traditional wedding.
Personally I never plan on getting "married" but having a ceremony of my own design out in the middle of the woods.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10266320 - 04/30/09 11:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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People of any religion, race, gender, etc should be allowed to get married using any binding ceremony they desire. Following, they should be able to be considered married if desired and enjoy the same rights as those who were wed under any other type of binding ceremony.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: Ferris]
#10266400 - 04/30/09 11:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ferris said: Enders Game was a children's book. It's three sequels are much better
Glad somebody else feels that way. I dont understand the hype around that book...
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: jackmomoff]
#10266423 - 04/30/09 11:32 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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it seemed to me like "Enders Game" had pedo undertones to it. I dunno, maybe I was just imagining it.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: mofo]
#10266432 - 04/30/09 11:34 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I noticed that too. The rest of the books were much different though.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: mofo]
#10266441 - 04/30/09 11:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
mofo said: it seemed to me like "Enders Game" had pedo undertones to it. I dunno, maybe I was just imagining it.
I wouldn't call it pedophilia. It was written from the perspective of an adolescent child. It wouldn't be realistic if a kid his age didn't have sexual thoughts.
It's natural, what can I say man. It wasn't pornographic in its telling that I remember.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: Ferris]
#10266453 - 04/30/09 11:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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they weren't even adolescents tho. and there was a line like, "they didn't even have three pubic hairs between the two of them" or something like that. It seemed creepy to me. There were other creepy lines too.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: mofo]
#10266631 - 05/01/09 12:15 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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There was another line that talked about either Ender's tiny prepubescent penis flopping up and down as he ran naked down the hallway.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10266657 - 05/01/09 12:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds like he's establishing insecurity as a character trait, possibly. I'd have to read it in context.
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Re: Orson Scott Card 'Ender's Game' Hates Gays [Re: Ferris]
#10266983 - 05/01/09 02:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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ender's game isn't exactly the most intellectual read ever but I still think it's really creative.
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