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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: tump] 1
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"Those who succeed know this secret: there isn't one." --Charles Bukowski
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum] 1
#23232030 - 05/16/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The church says the body is a sin. Science says the body is a machine. Advertising says the body is a business. The body says, "I am a fiesta."
Eduardo Galeano
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Kurt
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23233135 - 05/16/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: “A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it.” --H.L. Mencken
It's funny how quick a critique becomes something in its own right. Here are two good ones from sure footed Kant:
1789; after the second edition of Critique of Pure Reason was published:
"Whether the treatment of that portion of our knowledge which lies within the province of pure reason advances with that undeviating certainty which characterizes the progress of science, we shall be at no loss to determine. If we find those who are engaged in metaphysical pursuits, unable to come to an understanding as to the method which they ought to follow; if we find them, after the most elaborate preparations, invariably brought to a stand before the goal is reached, and compelled to retrace their steps and strike into fresh paths, we may then feel quite sure that they are far from having attained to the certainty of scientific progress and may rather be said to be merely groping about in the dark. In these circumstances we shall render an important service to reason if we succeed in simply indicating the path along which it must travel, in order to arrive at any results—even if it should be found necessary to abandon many of those aims which, without reflection, have been proposed for its attainment."
Compare to the first preface 1781:
"Human reason, in one sphere of its cognition, is called upon to consider questions, which it cannot decline, as they are presented by its own nature, but which it cannot answer, as they transcend every faculty of the mind.
It falls into this difficulty without any fault of its own. It begins with principles, which cannot be dispensed with in the field of experience, and the truth and sufficiency of which are, at the same time, insured by experience. With these principles it rises, in obedience to the laws of its own nature, to ever higher and more remote conditions. But it quickly discovers that, in this way, its labours must remain ever incomplete, because new questions never cease to present themselves; and thus it finds itself compelled to have recourse to principles which transcend the region of experience, while they are regarded by common sense without distrust.
It thus falls into confusion and contradictions, from which it conjectures the presence of latent errors, which, however, it is unable to discover, because the principles it employs, transcending the limits of experience, cannot be tested by that criterion. The arena of these endless contests is called Metaphysic..."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt]
#23234581 - 05/16/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The only force more ruthless and cynical than the business of big politics is the politics of big business. --Gregory David Roberts
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23248109 - 05/19/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. --Thomas Jefferson
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23249884 - 05/20/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23275648 - 05/26/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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"We needn't accomplish great things, we only need to accomplish little things that make us feel better or not so bad." --Charles Bukowski
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23284625 - 05/29/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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“It’s no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.”
― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23288536 - 05/30/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Illness of innocence"
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The body is trying to say something, the brain has no final words yet. A disease is the start of an adaptation to the stresses along life’s way, stresses often developed when the mind takes us far from our paths. Its favorite roots of guilt or fatigue or shame or self-indulgence are sunk into places that mind refuses to heed and keep clean, where ego refuses to know spirit’s sources, or abstract thoughts get lodged in the flesh to fester: foreign conditions to feed foreign forms. The illness which has no such roots will tend to run a shorter course. An innocent following feelings might wander into a dark place like this. A healer or an empath might take on the illness of others. Let these be. Roots that feed an illness require a will to have one and a lot of work to develop. The healer’s best cure will be a bath in water and light.
Bradford Hatcher; I Ching Hexagram 25.5
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt]
#23297179 - 06/01/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The beginning of the slaves’ revolt in morality occurs when ressentiment itself turns creative and gives birth to values: the ressentiment of those beings who, denied the proper response of action, compensate for it only with imaginary revenge. Whereas all noble morality grows out of a triumphant saying ‘yes’ to itself, slave morality says ‘no’ on principle to everything that is ‘outside’, ‘other’, ‘non-self ’: and this ‘no’ is its creative deed.
This reversal of the evaluating glance – this essential orientation to the outside instead of back onto itself – is a feature of ressentiment: in order to come about, slave morality first has to have an opposing, external world, it needs, physiologically speaking, external stimuli in order to act at all, – its action is basically a reaction. The opposite is the case with the noble method of valuation: this acts and grows spontaneously, seeking out its opposite only so that it can say ‘yes’ to itself even more thankfully and exultantly, – its negative concept ‘low’, ‘common’, ‘bad’ is only a pale contrast created after the event compared to its positive basic concept, saturated with life and passion, ‘we the noble, the good, the beautiful and the happy!’
...The ‘well-born’ felt they were ‘the happy’; they did not need first of all to construct their happiness artificially by looking at their enemies, or in some cases by talking themselves into it, lying themselves into it (as all men of ressentiment are wont to do); and also, as complete men bursting with strength and therefore necessarily active, they knew they must not separate happiness from action, – being active is by necessity counted as part of happiness...all very much the opposite of ‘happiness’ at the level of the powerless, the oppressed, and those rankled with poisonous and hostile feelings, for whom it manifests itself as essentially a narcotic...
While the noble man is confident and frank with himself the man of ressentiment is neither upright nor naïve, nor honest and straight with himself. His soul squints; his mind loves dark corners, secret paths and back-doors, everything secretive appeals to him as being his world, his security, his comfort; he knows all about keeping quiet, not forgetting, waiting, temporarily humbling and abasing himself. A race of such men of ressentiment will inevitably end up cleverer than any noble race, and will respect cleverness to a quite different degree as well: namely, as a condition of existence of the first rank, whilst the cleverness of noble men can easily have a subtle aftertaste of luxury and refinement about it: – precisely because in this area, it is nowhere near as important as the complete certainty of function of the governing unconscious instincts, nor indeed as important as a certain lack of cleverness, such as a daring charge at danger or at the enemy, or those frenzied sudden fits of anger, love, reverence, gratitude and revenge by which noble souls down the ages have recognized one another.
When ressentiment does occur in the noble man himself, it is consumed and exhausted in an immediate reaction, and therefore it does not poison, on the other hand, it does not occur at all in countless cases where it is unavoidable for all who are weak and powerless. To be unable to take his enemies, his misfortunes and even his misdeeds seriously for long – that is the sign of strong, rounded natures with a superabundance of a power which is flexible, formative, healing and can make one forget (a good example from the modern world is Mirabeau, who had no recall for the insults and slights directed at him and who could not forgive, simply because he – forgot.) A man like this shakes from him, with one shrug, many worms which would have burrowed into another man; actual ‘love of your enemies’ is also possible here and here alone – assuming it is possible at all on earth. How much respect a noble man has for his enemies! – and a respect of that sort is a bridge to love . . . For he insists on having his enemy to himself, as a mark of distinction, indeed he will tolerate as enemies none other than such as have nothing to be despised and a great deal to be honoured!
Against this, imagine ‘the enemy’ as conceived of by the man of ressentiment – and here we have his deed, his creation: he has conceived of the ‘evil enemy’, ‘the evil one’ as a basic idea to which he now thinks up a copy and counterpart, the ‘good one’ – himself! . . .
From Nietzsche's Genealogy of morals; ~10
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt]
#23302457 - 06/03/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dying offers a rare opportunity to compare what the culture has told us about ourselves and what death shows us we are.
Rodney Smith, Lessons from the Dying
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: PaulyAnna] 1
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“Whatever you fight, you strengthen, and what you resist, persists.”
Eckhart Tolle
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 2
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This is something a little bit different then just pasting some text, I hope this content is allowed in this thread.
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Very nice ^^ mjk.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
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Are there perhaps colleges for forty-year-olds which prepare them for their coming life and it's demands as the ordinary colleges introduce our young people to a knowledge of the world? No, thoroughly unprepared we take the step into the afternoon of life; worse still, we take this step with false assumptions that our truths and ideals will serve us hitherto. But we cannot live the afternoon of life according to the programme of life's morning; for what was great in the morning will be little at evening, and what in the morning was true will at evening have become a lie. I have given psychological treatment to too many people of advancing years, and have looked too often into the secret chambers of their souls, not to be moved by this fundamental truth.
Carl Jung
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: PaulyAnna]
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"Whenever in doubt, turn off your mind, relax, float downstream" - Timothy Leary
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: theshrumnub] 1
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"You have a class of young strong men and women, and they want to give their lives to something. Advertising has these people chasing cars and clothes they don't need. Generations have been working in jobs they hate, just so they can buy what they don't really need. We don't have a great war in our generation, or a great depression, but we do, we have a great war of the spirit. We have a great revolution against the culture. The great depression is our lives. We have a spiritual depression." --Chuck Palahniuk, from Fight Club
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: theshrumnub]
#23321751 - 06/08/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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theshrumnub said: "Whenever in doubt, turn off your mind, relax, float downstream" - Timothy Leary
I'm pretty sure he stole that from a beatles song
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: tryptkaloids]
#23321772 - 06/08/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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beatles got it from him, quoted out of Leary's The Psychedelic Experience: A Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead. The book was published in '64 and the song released on their album in '66
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