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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: deff] * 2
    #23072885 - 04/01/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Good stuff guys, thought the forum might dig that one...  We have to be aware of our horizon. What is this going on? Well, I will take a queue from you guys. To diverse minds, and consciousness meeting :cheers:


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt] * 1
    #23089984 - 04/06/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

It is as if Newtonian physics and Cartesian rationalism required that 'madness', that establishment of the sole sovereignty of reason, and the consequent expulsion of anything that constituted a threat to its rule, as a necessary condition of their birth. What is significant in the treatment accorded the 'insane' over the last three hundred years is not an increase in scientificity, nor the spread of more 'humane' attitudes and methods, but the continuing allegiance paid to 'reason' and the complete failure to listen either to one's own 'necessary' madness or to those labeled 'mad'.

-Alan Sheridan


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt] * 1
    #23093832 - 04/07/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not sure this really belongs here, but it's Carlin, after all...

I notice a lot of this “comedy” they have on television is about relationships. Do you ever see this stuff? Relationship comedy? Well, I don’t know much about relationships, but over the years I’ve noticed a few things about the two sexes, and I’d like to discuss them. Men and women: the big, hairy, noisy male creatures, and the smaller, smoother, but nonetheless also quite noisy, female creatures.

Here’s all you need to know about men and women: Women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid. It’s not the only reason, but it’s a big one. And by the way, if you don’t think men are stupid, check the newspaper. Ninety-nine percent of all the truly horrifying shit going on in this world was initiated, established, perpetrated, enabled or continued by men. And that includes the wave and the high five, two of history his truly low points.

But as I say, besides knowing that men are stupid, it’s also important to remember that women are crazy. And if you don’t think women are crazy, ask a man. That’s the one thing men aren’t stupid about; they know for sure, way down deep in their hearts, that women are straight-out fuckin nuts.

But it doesn’t just happen; it isn’t an accident. Women have good reason to be nuts, the main one being that in the course of life, compared with men, they have far more to put up with; they bear greater burdens. Think of it this way: In the Big Cosmic Cafeteria, as human beings move down the chow line of life and reach that section where the shit is being spooned out, women are given several extra portions.

And please understand, my motives here are not selfish or personal. I’m not saying all this stuff to get in good with womenalthough an occasional blow job would be nice. But it’s not a requirement. It’s optional. BJO: Blow Job Optional. No, I just think it should be evident to any person who’s being honestand thinking clearlythat women carry a lot more of life’s baggage than men.

To begin with, they’re smaller and weaker, so they get slapped, punched, raped, abused and, in general, get the shit beaten out of them on a rather regular basis. By men, of course, who are stronger. If women were stronger, this wouldn’t be happening. Men would not raise a hand if they thought the balance was more equal; they would back down quickly. Then again, if women were stronger, they would probably be beating the shit out of men just for the fun of it. It’s only fair.

APPEARANCE IS EVERYTHING

Another major problem for women: They have to look good all the timeor at least they think they do. So they’ll be attractive to their male protectors. “Gotta look good tonight, Joey’s gonna beat the shit out of me. Maybe I can get a nice kick in the fuckin’ mouth. Gotta look my best.”

And looking one’s female best requires a lot of things. Start with cosmetics. Just think of all the products and procedures a woman is forced to deal with in the world of cosmetics: cleansers, toners, foundation, blush, face powder, lipstick, lip gloss, lip liner, eyeliner, eye shadow, eyebrow pencil, mascara, nail polish, nail polish remover, manicures, pedicures, fake fingernails, fake eyelashes . . .

GIMME SOME SKIN

. . . face cream, neck cream, eye cream, thigh cream, root cream, day cream, night cream, cold cream, wrinkle remover, makeup remover, hand lotions, body lotions, bath oils, bath beads, shower gels, bubble baths, scented baths, perfumes, colognes, toilet water, astringents, moisturizers, emulsions, exfo-liants, peels, scrubs, depilatories, body wraps, facial masks . . .

HAIR HAIR!

. . . shampoos, conditioners, bleaches, dyes, rinses, tints, perms, straighteners, wigs, falls, rats, extensions, combs, barrettes, bobby pins, hairpins, hairnets, hair curlers, scrunchies, ribbons, bows, debacles, headbands . . .

PROCEDURES

. . . streaking, frosting, teasing, spraying, moussing, blow drying, cutting, layering, curling, eyelash curling, eyebrow plucking, armpit shaving, leg shaving, crotch shaving, crotch waxing, leg waxing, eyebrow waxing . . .

And a purse! A big fuckin1 purse so she can carry all this shit around with her. Especially the makeup, which must be close at hand at all times. “Gotta have my makeup. In case 1 run into Joey and he wants to beat the shit outta me. I gotta look my best. Maybe he’ll punch me repeatedly in the kidneys and the stomach so it doesn’t mark up my face. He’s so thoughtful.’

I NAVE NOTHING TO WEAR

And, my friend, I hope you’re aware that when we talk about women looking good, we’re also talking about clothing. Clothing is what generates all this shopping shit that occupies so much of a woman’s time. Because the truth is, women have to buy, own and wear an unbelievably bewildering number of garments:

TAKE IT OFF!!!

Slips, half-slips, camisoles, thongs, panties, pantyhose, stockings, half hose, knee-highs, anklets, socks, leg warmers, garter belts, girdles, corsets, training bras, padded bras, sports bras, nursing bras, push-up bras, strapless bras, Wonderbras, bustiers, teddies, petticoats, peignoirs, negligees, nightgowns, shorties, muumuus, body stockings . . .

TOP TO BOTTOM

. . . blouses, sweaters, jerseys, pullovers, halter tops, miniskirts, maxiskirts, slacks, suits, sunsuits, business suits, pants suits, culottes, capris, shorts, short shorts, hot pants, formal gowns, bridal gowns, evening gowns, street dresses, sundresses, cocktail dresses, housedresses, housecoats, winter coats, fall coats, spring coats, hats and scarves . . .

BAUBLES & BANGLES

. . . brooches, pins, necklaces, pendants, medallions, lockets, bracelets, ankle bracelets, earrings, wedding rings, engagement rings, friendship rings, thumb rings, toe rings and (optional, of course) nipple, nose and labia rings.

And let’s not even begin to talk about shoes. Oh, God! Sorry girls! I take it back. But at least let’s keep it brief: tennis shoes, sandals, open-toes, slingbacks, mules, wedgies, flats, half-heels and . . . high heels. High heels that damage a woman’s feet, ankles and knees, but make her ass and legs look great, so how can you blame a guy for the occasional rape? “Hey, the bitch was askin’ for it, she was wearin’ high heels.”

DOWN THE AISLE

Now, generally, all this obsession with appearance has one purpose. It’s supposed to lead to romance andit is devoudy wished by somea wedding. A wedding is another one of those good deals women get: The man “takes a wife,” the woman is “given away,” her family pays for the whole thing, and everyone stands around hoping she gets pregnant immediately.

KNOCK KNOCK!

Pregnant! Hey, another terrific treat for the gals! A chance to gain forty pounds, puke in the morning, walk like a duck, get sore tits and develop a nice case of hemorrhoids. What a deal! And such attractive clothing. Plus, she can’t get up off the couch without help. Well, it’s her own fault. This wouldn’t have happened if she had taken her birth contol pill or used her diaphragm. Notice: her pill, her diaphragm.

AND BABY MAKES WORK

But think of how fulfilling it can be. After all, now she has a baby; a baby she gets to raise practically alone. And if she decides to be a stay-at-home mom, she gets to cook, clean, sew, scrub, scour, wax, wash, dry, iron, do the shopping, drive the van and entertain the guests. She’s a housewife! An unpaid, in-family domestic servant. Admittedly, that description is a bit more in line with the old model. The new model is so much better: She ‘gets a fuckin’ job so she can be bringin’ something’ in.” But, somehow, she still winds up being an unpaid, in-family domestic servantafter she gets home from the job.

You know, the job? Where she gets paid less than men for the same work, does not rise beyond a certain level in the company and gets harassed all day long by some oversexed moron with a lump in his pants.

Probably better just to stay home where she doesn’t have to be bothered with that pesky paycheck crap, and there his none of that nonsense about Social Security, pension plans and unemployment money in case of divorce. Just alimony and child support… if the ex-husband can be located. The ex who probably thought she was looking a little used up and dumped her for someone whose milk glands hadn’t sagged yet.

Can’t forget those milk glands, can we, girls? Tits! Two tits, sticking straight out of your chest; in some cases sticking straight out. Well, for a few years, anyway. Yes, girls, just by virtue of being female, you get to walk around all your life with two vulnerable milk glands hanging out in front of you like lanterns. And if, somehow, you should get the idea that men don’t approve of the size and shape of those milk glands, you’ll find plenty of social pressure to have them artificially “enhanced.” Such enhancement usually will be performed and supervised by men.

Here’s another physical treat for females: periods! Cramping, bloating and bleeding five days a month. Fifteen percent of the time. And you can add the time spent with premenstrual syndrome. PMS. Men gave it that name. If women had named it, it would be called My several days of shrieking and crying and depression, just before my several days of bleeding, cramping and bloating.” Men don’t quite see it from that angle. Men experience PMS as a problem for them. “What’s the matter, Joey? You don’t look so good.” “Ahhhh, my wife’s got the PMS.”

--George Carlin


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23094261 - 04/07/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"Optimism, just like pessimism, isn't realism."

Pavel Somov


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23096841 - 04/08/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That's a good one, not heard that before.

Maybe not a phiolosophical quote but i like the saying 'You can't see the wood for the trees' when people are looking right at something and can't see what's in front of them.

Also, not sure who this one was but,

'The more things change, the more they stay the same'

Heard that as a kid and took me a while to figure it out.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Petch] * 1
    #23102600 - 04/10/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"The physical scientist denuded the world of natural and organic objects and turned his back upon real experience: he substituted for the body and blood of reality a skeleton of effective abstractions which he could manipulate with the appropriate wires and pulleys. What was left was the bare, depopulated world of matter and motion: a wasteland." - Lewis Mumford


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: deff] * 2
    #23114504 - 04/13/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"I have never seen much point in getting heavy with stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I... And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."  --HST


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23115492 - 04/14/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt]
    #23118546 - 04/14/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"Once you label me you negate me."

Soren Kierkegaard


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23130912 - 04/18/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"Whatever grows without limit necessarily ends by devouring the world."  --Daniel Quinn


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #23131644 - 04/18/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

the awareness of the strangeness of the awareness of being aware is the strangest sensation there is.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: theshrumnub] * 2
    #23134305 - 04/19/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

"How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 8:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so? " --Charles Bukowski


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23139303 - 04/21/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

It was curiousity - The only kind of curiousity...that is worth acting upon with a degree of obstinancy; not the kind of curiousity that seeks to assimilate what it is proper for one to know, but that which enables one to get free of oneself. After all what would be the value of passion for knowledge if it resulted only in a certain amount of knowledgeableness and not, in one way or another...in the knower's straying afield of himself? There are times in life when the question of knowing if one can think differently than one thinks, and perceive differently than one sees, is absolutely necessary if one is to go on looking and reflecting at all.

Michel Foucault.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt] * 1
    #23151314 - 04/24/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

“A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it.”  --H.L. Mencken


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    #23154519 - 04/25/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

"I am unique and you are unique, so we are the same."


From the book, Gulliver's Travels (Jonathan Swift)


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23160406 - 04/27/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I fucking loved that book.


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23164774 - 04/28/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

"The Sioux have a name for white men. They call them wasicun -- fat-takers. It is a good name, because you have taken the fat of the land. But it does not seem to have agreed with you. Right now you don’t look so healthy -- overweight, yes, but not healthy. Americans are bred like stuffed geese -- to be consumers, not human beings. The moment they stop consuming and buying, the frog-skin world has no use for them. They have become frogs themselves. Some cruel child has stuffed a cigar into their mouths and they have to keep puffing and puffing until they explode.  Fat-taking is a bad thing, even for the taker. It is especially bad for Indians who are forced to live in this frog-skin world which they did not make and for which they have no use.

You, Richard, are an artist.  Artists are the Indians of the white world. They are called dreamers who live in the clouds, improvident people who can't hold on to their money, people who don't want to face "reality." They say the same things about Indians. How the hell do these frog-skin people know what reality is? The world in which you paint a picture in your mind, a picture which shows things different from what your eyes see, that is the world from which I get my visions. I tell you this is the real world, not the Green Frog Skin World. That's only a bad dream, a streamlined, smog-filled nightmare."  --Lakota Shaman Lame Deer


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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23169237 - 04/29/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

When it rains it pours.


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    #23208318 - 05/09/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

"Look at everything as though you were seeing it for the first time or the last time. Then your time on Earth will be filled with glory."

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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23215928 - 05/11/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Death is a gift given at birth.


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