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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23020576 - 03/18/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -Dalai Lama
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allow love to resonate and it will consume the world
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Collective roots] 1
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"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#23030108 - 03/21/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Now I can see what psychosis is: the utter alienation of perception from the objects of the outside world, especially the objects which matter: the warmhearted people there. And what takes their place? A dreadful preoccupation with -- the endless ebb and flow of one's own self. The changes emanating from within which affect only the inside world. It is a splitting apart of the two worlds, inner and outer, so that neither registers on the other. Both still exist, but each goes its own way." --Philip K. Dick, from Martian Time-Slip
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23030941 - 03/21/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23031009 - 03/21/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, agree with the GIF man, definitely what I felt when I read that quote. Absolutely spot on.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23040294 - 03/24/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now being a good man is a bad 'ting, now being a bad man is a good 'ting. --Tanya Stephens, 'Come A Long Way'
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23048632 - 03/26/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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"My original vision was born out of revulsion, a disgust at what America had become, and at the way we were living. I saw Americans as being miserable because they had bought into a definition of success called the American Dream, which consisted of hustling, competing, getting ahead, and pursuing wealth or fame. And I knew that real success was a very different thing: it consisted in the relationship you had with yourself. As John Ruskin once put it, "There is no wealth but life." If you let yourself be defined from the outside, it will eventually make you sick. Unfortunately, this is what most Americans have chosen to do." --Morris Berman, from The Man Without Qualities
"When a man strives, he errs." --Goethe
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23048733 - 03/26/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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DividedQuantum said: "Now I can see what psychosis is: the utter alienation of perception from the objects of the outside world... --Philip K. Dick, from Martian Time-Slip
Arguably a subjective opinion of a misogynist rather than objective:
" he believed that existence is based on the internal-based perception of a human, which does not necessarily correspond to external reality"
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Buster_Brown] 1
#23051343 - 03/27/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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"To be miserable is to be the center of the universe."
Cheri Huber
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23053932 - 03/28/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: "To be miserable is to be the center of the universe."
Cheri Huber
Now that I like. A lot.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23058678 - 03/29/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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"He who values the tomato, doubles the power of the pepperoni".
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Duncan Rowhl] 1
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt] 1
#23070045 - 04/01/16 04:49 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rehearse death. To say this is to tell a person to rehearse his freedom. A person who has learned how to die has unlearned how to be a slave.
Seneca, Letters from a Stoic
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: PaulyAnna]
#23070514 - 04/01/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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bravo.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Icelander] 1
#23072534 - 04/01/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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To this end we have to be acquainted with the sphere to which all those entities belong which we have long called by the name of "thing". The stone in the road is a thing, as is the clod in the field. A jug is a thing, as is the well beside the road. But what about the milk in the jug and the water in the well? These too are things if the cloud in the sky and the thistle in the field, the leaf in the autumn breeze and the hawk over the wood, are rightly called by the name of thing.
All these must indeed be called things, if the name is applied even to that which does not, like those just enumerated, show itself, i.e., that which does not appear. According to Kant, the whole of the world, for example, and even God himself, is a thing of this sort, a thing that does not itself appear, namely, a "thing-in-itself." In the language of philosophy both things-in-themselves and things that appear, all beings that in any way are, are called things...
On the whole the word "thing" here designates whatever is not simply nothing...
(Yet...) we hesitate to call God a thing. In the same way we hesitate to consider the peasant in the field, the stoker at the boiler, the teacher in the school as things. A man is not a thing. It is true that we speak of a young girl who is faced with a task too difficult for her as being a young thing, still too young for it, but only because we feel that being human is in a certain way missing here and think that instead we have to do here with the factor that constitutes the thingly character of things. We hesitate even to call the deer in the forest clearing, the beetle in the grass, the blade of grass a thing. We would sooner think of a hammer as a thing, or a shoe, or an ax, or a clock. But even these are not mere things. Only a stone, a clod of earth, a piece of wood are for us such mere things. Lifeless beings of nature and objects of use. Natural things and utensils are the things commonly so called.
We thus see ourselves brought back from the widest domain, within which everything is a thing (thing = res = ens — an entity), including even the highest and last things, to the narrow precinct of mere things. "Mere" here means, first, the pure thing, which is simply a thing and nothing more; but then, at the same time, it means that which is only a thing, in an almost pejorative sense. It is mere things, excluding even use-objects, that count as things in the strict sense. What does the thingly character of these things, then, consist in?
...Even before all reflection, attentive dwelling within the sphere of things already tells us that this thing-concept does not hit upon the thingly element of the thing, its independent and self-contained character. Occasionally we still have the feeling that violence has long been done to the thingly element of things and that thought has played a part in this violence, for which reason people disavow thought instead of taking pains to make it more thoughtful. But in defining the nature of the thing, what is the use of a feeling, however certain, if thought alone has the right to speak here?
Martin Heidegger; From The Origin of The Work of Art
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: Kurt]
#23072635 - 04/01/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very good. 
Topical too.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum] 1
#23072689 - 04/01/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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right after reading Kurt's quote above, I came across this quote quite coincidentally, and thought it was related to recent discussions here too 
"The founders of modern day biology could not have predicted what would finally come into focus after decades of developing the research fields of physiology, bio-chemistry and genetics with the mindset of physical science. They could not have predicted the ways in which biology, in the end, did become like physics...real-world biological phenomena do not resemble the lawful, mechanistic linear simplicity of Newtonian physics and its eternal laws of gravity and acceleration. They instead manifest the same problems we find in the weird and subjective world of quantum physics. It turns out that every subject - every organism - is inextricably connected with the totality of the world, and that subjectivity cannot be excluded from the understanding of life. Subjectivity is the door to a deeper knowledge of it. ...In the emerging poetic biology, a living being is neither matter nor form, yet it is a subject that can govern the connection between both...Matter metamorphoses: first it is earth, then you, then me and then earth again. From this perspective, infinity is at reach in every moment. It flows through us. Every living being is a knot that ties the whole. We are here and everywhere at the same moment."
- Andreas Weber, "The Biology of Wonder"
here's a website dedicated to the book which is interesting to read too: http://biologyofwonder.org/
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: deff]
#23072713 - 04/01/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow deff, what a synchronicity -- I just finished reading a book called Life on the Edge: The Coming of Age of Quantum Biology by Johnjoe McFadden & Jim Al-Khalili. Really excellent. Their thesis, and conclusion, is that not only can biology, biochemistry and neuroscience not exclude quantum phenomena, but such phenomena are instrumental in most biological processes, and certainly the most fundamental ones -- like enzyme activity, photosynthesis, heredity, and others.
Good stuff.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical and Spiritual Quotes [Re: DividedQuantum]
#23072719 - 04/01/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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neato! coming across this quote was quite a synchronicity to me too as it was the first thing i saw on facebook immediately after reading Kurt's quote
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