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deCypher



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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: Silversoul] 1
#11736405 - 12/29/09 09:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl." --James Crumley
I didn't reform, I lost my nerve. I still think it's sensible to want money and if you want money it has to be sensible to go where they have it and make them give you some. --Al Nussbaum, bank robber.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: deCypher]
#11736596 - 12/29/09 10:48 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't reform, I lost my nerve.
This is almost always the case. For everything.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: deCypher]
#11738404 - 12/29/09 04:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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deCypher said: "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl." --James Crumley
That's great
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: deCypher]
#11742152 - 12/30/09 11:47 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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deCypher said: "Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl." --James Crumley
I didn't reform, I lost my nerve. I still think it's sensible to want money and if you want money it has to be sensible to go where they have it and make them give you some. --Al Nussbaum, bank robber.
-------------------- I don't believe in cops, bosses, or politicians. Some call that anarchism. I call it having a fucking heart that beats.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: igwna]
#11752314 - 01/02/10 11:14 AM (14 years, 29 days ago) |
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MY LIFE IS MY MESSAGE ~ Budda
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sisyphus
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: blackdust] 1
#11770046 - 01/05/10 01:32 PM (14 years, 26 days ago) |
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In jest:
"A witty saying proves nothing" - Voltaire
In serious (there aren't any here from Churchill!):
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." - Sir Winston Churchill
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: sisyphus]
#11774599 - 01/06/10 01:45 AM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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I can't deny that he has some great quotations, but it's too bad Churchill hadn't been a little more willing to give the Indian people back their country. Racist colonialism seems to suck all the wind out of his heroic political career.
"Governing a large country is like frying a small fish. You spoil it with too much poking." - Lao Tsu
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RationalEgo
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: yelyarb]
#11776380 - 01/06/10 12:43 PM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.
Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.
Sir Winston was NOT!
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11776423 - 01/06/10 12:53 PM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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RationalEgo said: You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.
Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.
Sir Winston was NOT!
Gandhi was certainly a racist while he lived in South Africa, but in later years I have heard he considered all of humanity as his brethren, including Africans and other groups he might have despised as a younger man. Also, I don't think Britain's policies did much to change the caste system; Gandhi, on the other hand, went a long way toward bridging the rift between the higher and lower castes...although needless to say caste remains to this day a huge aspect of Indian society.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11776598 - 01/06/10 01:23 PM (14 years, 25 days ago) |
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RationalEgo said: You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.
Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.
Sir Winston was NOT!
While Ghandi was a racist how is that relevant to his accomplishments?
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: learningtofly]
#11777789 - 01/06/10 04:18 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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A few more favourites, even if they are from Americans ;-)
"Take calculated risks. That is quite different from being rash." - George S. Patton
"Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could; some blunders and absurdities have crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; you shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11778362 - 01/06/10 05:33 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
Winston Churchill, 1937
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes *DELETED* [Re: yelyarb]
#11780574 - 01/06/10 10:35 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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learningtofly
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: cesarmd7]
#11780627 - 01/06/10 10:42 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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I've lived out my melancholy youth. I don't give a fuck anymore what's behind me, or what's ahead of me. I'm healthy. Incurably healthy. No sorrows, no regrets. No past, no future. The present is enough for me. Day by day.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: yelyarb]
#11781071 - 01/07/10 12:41 AM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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learningtofly said:
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RationalEgo said: You forget that without Britain, India would still be a backward, caste system driven hellhole.
Oh and BTW, Ghandi, the famous 'liberator' of India, was an outright racist.
Sir Winston was NOT!
While Ghandi was a racist how is that relevant to his accomplishments?
Its not but its certainly relevant in the context that Ghandi is basically worshipped in India while no attention is paid to his MANY faults.
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yelyarb said:
"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
Winston Churchill, 1937
OK, touché, there are certainly strong racist implications of that quote.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: yelyarb]
#11781236 - 01/07/10 01:29 AM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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yelyarb said: "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
Winston Churchill, 1937
fuck... That man was a leader? Yeah! we wont last long.
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: RationalEgo]
#11781895 - 01/07/10 07:43 AM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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We can recognize a lot of the ideas he had as a politician for the value that they still have, particularly on behalf of prisoners.
"Following the 1910 General Election Churchill became Home Secretary. Churchill introduced several reforms to the prison system, including the provision of lecturers and concerts for prisoners and the setting up of special after-care associations to help convicts after they had served their sentence."
His racist attitudes may just be the product of a system so long bent on colonialism and a notion of superiority. As rational as we can be, our environment seems to impact us necessarily, albeit sometimes the result is terrible.
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deCypher



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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: yelyarb]
#11790558 - 01/08/10 03:52 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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Making itself intelligible is suicide for philosophy. --Martin Heidegger
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Re: Your Favorite Philosophical Quotes [Re: deCypher]
#11790996 - 01/08/10 05:00 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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God is dead
Friedrich Nietzsche
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"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian's daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his was the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the supremest?" -- Mark Twain
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