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Offlinegreenladel

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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Cory Duchesne] * 2
    #27219986 - 02/22/21 09:58 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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"It is unbelievable the number of miscreants, users, charlatans, parasites, cretins, scammers, etc. that will come at you the more successful you become.  While most people are lovely and supportive, some are an affront to human dignity." - Gad Saad





i would argue that the more "successful" you become, the more you value material things that you are using to measure your success and the more you see those around you as miscreants, users, charlatans, parasites, cretins, scammers, etc.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: greenladel]
    #27221191 - 02/22/21 10:14 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

This expression, “God’s world,” may sound sentimental to some ears. For me it did not have this character at all. To “God’s world” belonged everything superhuman — dazzling light, the darkness of the abyss, the cold impassivity of infinite space and time, and the uncanny grotesqueness of the irrational world of chance. “God,” for me, was everything — and anything but “edifying.”
~C.G. Jung,  Memories, Dreams, Reflections


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: greenladel]
    #27221194 - 02/22/21 10:15 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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greenladel said:
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Cory Duchesne said:
"It is unbelievable the number of miscreants, users, charlatans, parasites, cretins, scammers, etc. that will come at you the more successful you become.  While most people are lovely and supportive, some are an affront to human dignity." - Gad Saad





i would argue that the more "successful" you become, the more you value material things that you are using to measure your success and the more you see those around you as miscreants, users, charlatans, parasites, cretins, scammers, etc.




Yeah, that works. I think you've got something there, thank you.


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"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #27227882 - 02/26/21 04:00 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave, don't leave me
Look around, choose your own ground

Long you live and high you fly
Smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be

Run, rabbit, run
Dig that hole, forget the sun
When at last the work is done
Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one

Long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
Balanced on the biggest wave
Race towards an early grave


-Pink Floyd, Breathe Dark Side of the Moon  (C) 1973 Pink Floyd Music Ltd


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Shakedown Street] * 1
    #27231396 - 03/01/21 12:46 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Without a measureless and perpetual uncertainty, the drama of human life would be destroyed.

Winston Churchill


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #27233284 - 03/02/21 08:17 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Let us be careful in dealing with those who attach great importance to being credited with moral tact and subtlety in moral discernment! They never forgive us if they have once made a mistake BEFORE us (or even with REGARD to us)—they inevitably become our instinctive calumniators and detractors, even when they still remain our "friends."—Blessed are the forgetful: for they "get the better" even of their blunders. 
~ Beyond Good and Evil


“Do not be deceived! The busiest people harbor the greatest weariness, their restlessness is weakness--they no longer have the capacity for waiting and idleness.”
—Friedrich N.


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Cory Duchesne] * 2
    #27237558 - 03/04/21 07:04 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

“The world does have a conscience, however men dispute it. And while that conscience may be thought of as the sum of consciences of men there is another view, which is that it may stand alone and each man’s share be but some small imperfect part of it.”  --Cormac McCarthy, Cities of the Plain


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27238558 - 03/05/21 11:05 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
“The world does have a conscience, however men dispute it. And while that conscience may be thought of as the sum of consciences of men there is another view, which is that it may stand alone and each man’s share be but some small imperfect part of it.”  --Cormac McCarthy, Cities of the Plain




Is this some small "universal karma" typa idea?  Cuz I've posited that position before  :cool2:  I'm also drunk and don't care to expand at the moment but I think I've gone down that similar line before and umm, ehemm, I agree? :laugh:  More later; maybe.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: extreme] * 1
    #27238576 - 03/05/21 11:21 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

I read it as having to do with the notion that Earth, in its totality, possesses mind or something approaching spirit, and that each individual is like a neuron in the overarching brain. It has been called collective unconscious, great spirit, noosphere, collective consciousness, whatever. That's what I think he is referring to.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27243663 - 03/08/21 05:06 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

"White men have too many chiefs."  --Nez Percé Chief Joseph


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #27243853 - 03/08/21 06:52 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Shakedown Street] * 2
    #27243906 - 03/08/21 07:24 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

"You look like David Schwimmer's down syndrome half brother".

- Kenny Vs. Spenny


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #27244352 - 03/09/21 04:22 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

@ Shakedown Street - (btw that particular song and album have been on my mind more than usual lately lol, anyway) gotta have the picture!  I thought originally the pale blue dot was simply taken from the moon I may need to do more research on that, or maybe it was at first, then they got another pic from even further away.  This is the pic from Voyager as it passed Saturn I believe so from way out there (Saturn is 9.5 AU's from the sun, so 9.5x further away from the sun than we are [or 8.5 additions... whatever])



All that humanity has ever known and all life as we know it that has ever lived (and all consciousness itself as far as we know) has all existed on that tiny speck :smile:  And that's still a pic from within our solar system lol; the universe is astronomically larger :wink:

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I read it as having to do with the notion that Earth, in its totality, possesses mind or something approaching spirit, and that each individual is like a neuron in the overarching brain. It has been called collective unconscious, great spirit, noosphere, collective consciousness, whatever. That's what I think he is referring to.




Right on, yea "universal karma" is sort of the name I've personally given to that idea although it may be more broad than that, I like the "collective un/conscious" and stuff too.  Maybe my interpretation is slightly different but I think of a kind of butterfly effect, or even "sin" - akin to karma... in a more broad/universal way and not about just one person, but the greater interactions of how karma/sin/any action basically can influence another person, and so on and so on.  Good tends to beget good (overall) and vice versa.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: extreme]
    #27248108 - 03/11/21 11:45 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

The photograph of Earth first taken on December 24, 1968, by Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders stunned humankind.    It was the glimpse of a new era never before seen, the era of manned spaceflight outside the comfort of spaceship Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthrise

It was not the first photograph taken of Earth from outside the Earth.  It was the first color photograph taken of Earth from outside the Earth.  It stunned all Earthlings because we all grew up knowing the sky as the blue and white canopy overhead.    This was a whole new view of our solar system.    It showed everyone instantly Nicolaus Copernicus was right, and so were Tyco Brahe and Isaac Newton, and the final mastermind of manned spaceflight, Wernher von Braun, who developed the technology to make a flight to the moon finally possible, Saturn V.
It was whole new era humankind's grasp of the cosmos in which we find ourselves.

It was the time that many Earthlings realized JFK's goal was actually possible.    And of course, it was humankind's organization expressing the highest degree of freedom to human beings that was going to show Earthlings how to do it.

The Apollo 8 mission was breathtaking.    It was breathtaking beyond anything ever imagined by humankind in either done in fact or imagined in fiction.  It was the first time 3 grown men bet their lives on  Wernher von Braun's understanding of orbital mechanics, to leave Earth and orbit the moon.  And to hopefully return if the motor burned when necessary to de-orbit the moon and return to Earth.  You can view snippets of the original videos of this breath-taking trip at https://www.nasa.gov/topics/history/features/apollo_8.html
To say the photograph was breath-taking or awe-inspiring is an understatement.    The photograph was genuinely mind-bending to all who saw it.
IMHO, it was an ultimate Kodachrome moment that Paul Simon sang about with his partner Garfunkle his song "Kodachrome" in Central Park, another awe-inspring event some 15 years later and described at
https://www.simonandgarfunkel.com/video/simon-garfunkel-kodachrome-concert-central-park/


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: pur3bind]
    #27251207 - 03/13/21 11:35 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

If the ego won't live as the self wants it to, live its life completely, then the self usually does seem to want to die. ~Barbara Hannah, Zarathustra Seminar, Page 399


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Cory Duchesne]
    #27251932 - 03/13/21 10:49 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

“In our family, you don't get a childhood. We're too busy trying to dominate the world.” ― Gordon Korman, The Emperor's Code


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: pur3bind]
    #27251970 - 03/13/21 11:29 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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"You look like David Schwimmer's down syndrome half brother".

- Kenny Vs. Spenny




Dude holy SHIT I totally forgot about this show and I remember this exact part.

"Kenny's always messing with me!" lmfao amazing. That was basically pre-YouTube era shit, too! 10/10.


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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #27252417 - 03/14/21 12:04 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Beware the ides of March.

From Julius Caesar, a play by William Shakespeare


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    #27256334 - 03/16/21 09:27 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

"The Eternal is an incomprehensible paradox - a moment which does not pass. Passing means duration. Other than a zero-dimensional point, all dimensions (line, plane, solid, hyper-solid, etc., thought, memory, image)  partake of spacio-temporal extension which again, does not characterize eternity. Anything that has form has been created and can be destroyed. These are not characteristics of the eternal. Anything that has been created is by definition not eternal, which is uncreated.

I often use the metaphor of a wave which is not separate from the ocean except in a linguistic, conventional sense. We see a surfer on 'a wave' but that wave temporarily arose as a form of the ocean and will peak and subside. Can one isolate a wave, keep that wave in form, intact, after it has arisen and disappeared? No. It was a temporary form that arose from the Formless Ocean. So, metaphorically, every idiosyncratic aspect of that particular observed wave, every bubble in its foam, every bit of seaweed, will dissipate back into the Ocean at the demise of that wave. Likewise for each of us. Carbon returns to carbon, phosphorus and calcium back to compounds of same, structures of awareness back into the Storehouse Consciousness (Alayavijnana according to Buddhism)."

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Re: Your favorite philosophical and spiritual quotes. [Re: pineninja]
    #27270679 - 03/26/21 05:50 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

"He [Jung] used to say that the Germans have a lower threshold between consciousness and the unconscious than the people of other nations, which is the reason they so easily fall victim to ideas that appeal to the masses."
~Barbara Hannah, Jung: His Life and Work


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C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know."

"I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung

Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti

"All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]


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