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Offlineehud
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no smoking Pot in Nevada
    #1026194 - 11/06/02 12:50 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

just saw the poll not even close.


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OfflineGoBlue!
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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: ehud]
    #1026205 - 11/06/02 12:54 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

I saw it too.  But what percent of votes were counted in the results you saw?  On the Yahoo site, it said less than 1% have been counted so far, so it could still change (I hope).  I'm surprised that a state with so many freedoms would want to ban pot, when anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by Government propoganda knows that alchohol is far more dangerous to society.  :tongue: 


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1026210 - 11/06/02 12:56 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Well it's a slippery slope and you know Coke and Heroin would be next.
/sarcasm off
people who vote no are just lazy fucks that's all, they wanna vote once and never vote again.


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Offlineehud
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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1026230 - 11/06/02 01:01 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2002/pages/ballot/index.html

here ya go, more up to date. It has 64% in



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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: ehud]
    #1026250 - 11/06/02 01:05 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Ah shit!  Thanks for the link...  :confused: 


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: ehud]
    #1026579 - 11/06/02 02:41 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

I thought it would be closer than that...I think it was 69-31 when I clicked the link

Wow. Think it was rigged? I mean, could you really imagine that passing?

Legal Weed in the country that brought us the drug war. Hmm, don't fit. It wasn't allowed to pass. I'm kidding of course, but I wouldn't be suprised.


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1027059 - 11/06/02 05:59 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Rigged? No. It should have passed but so few younger people vote that it's not surprising it lost.

The older people have heard for so long how "evil" pot is that they believe it.

Wait a few more years until those who know better start getting into office.


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: ehud]
    #1027154 - 11/06/02 07:38 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

fuck



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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1027214 - 11/06/02 08:39 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Wait a few more years until those who know better start getting into office.

Ummm... don't hold your breath. Pretty much all of the "Baby Boomer" generation is well aware that pot is harmless. The explosion of pot-smoking occurred during the Sixties, after all... according to some surveys the percentage of pot smokers was higher in 1972 than in 2002. Some of the icons of the Woodstock Generation are older than your average politician.

Back in the day we all held the same thought: "Just wait till WE'RE running the country... weed and LSD will be legal, man."

Note that it wasn't even the politicians this time who torpedoed it... it was the VOTERS. Don't ask me why that might be. Might just be a Nevada thing. The same referendum in a different state (California, perhaps?) might have had a different result.

Or not.

pinky


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: ehud]
    #1027306 - 11/06/02 09:40 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

if it is anyones fault it is the young voters fault. there are thousands and thousands of young voters waking up today oblivious that yesterday was an election. lets face it, the marijuana culture does have a lot of lazy ass dimwits that sit at home all day and play video games and complain about how fucked up the world is. a lot arent like that but the ones that needed to step up and make a difference didn't do it and it is there fault.


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1027323 - 11/06/02 09:46 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Wait a few more years until those who know better start getting into office.

I have waited 35 years thinking the exact same thing and things have only gotten worse. Only action is effective. Being patiently passive is useless. You forget that each generation passes down brainwashing and indoctrination to the next generation.

This same affect can be seen in the Middle East where tribal hatred and mistrust has been passed down for millenium.



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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Swami]
    #1027394 - 11/06/02 10:37 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

so what can be done?


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: ehud]
    #1027396 - 11/06/02 10:37 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

How do you think referendums get put on ballots?
Registered voters sign a petition to get the initiative put on the ballot

You think the same initiative would have a better chance in another state?
Well if you do why havn't the registered voters of that state done whats neccessary to get it on the ballot

One problem is that a lot of pot smokers don't register to vote :confused:

don't kick nevada pot smokers, they got medicanal marijauna legal last election :grin: they also got question 9 on the ballot this election. :cool: 


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Phred]
    #1027604 - 11/06/02 11:46 AM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Note that it wasn't even the politicians this time who torpedoed it... it was the VOTERS.

Drugs wern't made illegal by the voters. It was against the wishes of pretty much everyone in the entire country - it took a helluva lot of propaganda to make drug laws stick. The laws need to be passed first, then take care of the propaganda.


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Xlea321]
    #1027709 - 11/06/02 12:41 PM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Gee, Alex, I always thought you were in favor of democracy. I guess democracy only counts if the results of a given vote match your own personal prejudices.

Here's the deal... this time, the question wasn't decided by a bunch of lobbyists trying to bribe elected members of a government... it was put directly to the PEOPLE of Nevada -- ALL the people of Nevada, for a DIRECT vote, and the results of the vote weren't even close.

Democracy in action is a wonderful thing, isn't it? *sarcasm* It results, quite literally, in "tyranny of the masses". Your rights are being violated not by the whim of faceless government bureaucrats, but by the whim of six out of ten of your fellow citizens.

Makes one pause and think, doesn't it?

pinky



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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Phred]
    #1027780 - 11/06/02 01:09 PM (14 years, 30 days ago)

In reply to:

Makes one pause and think, doesn't it?



You're expecting too much from a confirmed statist.


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Evolving]
    #1027919 - 11/06/02 01:50 PM (14 years, 30 days ago)

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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Evolving]
    #1027931 - 11/06/02 01:54 PM (14 years, 30 days ago)

:grin:


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Phred]
    #1027996 - 11/06/02 02:24 PM (14 years, 30 days ago)

Gee, Alex, I always thought you were in favor of democracy

What makes you think drugs were made illegal by a democratic process?

Take racism - when blacks were first brought to america it took an enormous effort on the part of landowners to foster racism and fear among the white population. Poor whites were naturally inclined to treat blacks as normal human beings much to the chagrin of the free-marketeers. They were taking blacks in and treating them as friends, you had rebellions where poor whites were demanding the freedom of black slaves. The landowners responded by introducing measures to divide the two groups and introduce fear. A hundred years of indoctrination later and racism had caught on among the poor too. If you can create racism in a population you can certainly create a fear of drugs.

After decades of prejudice, fear-mongering and constant government and media demonisation of drugs why would you expect people suddenly to reject all that and vote for their legalisation?

But the positive thing is I'm sure the result would have been even worse 40 years ago - people are seeing through the demonisation, it will just take a little while.


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Re: no smoking Pot in Nevada [Re: Xlea321]
    #1028033 - 11/06/02 02:40 PM (14 years, 30 days ago)

What makes you think drugs were made illegal by a democratic process?

Irrelevant. Bad laws are enacted all the time -- criminalization of drugs, gambling, prostitution, alcohol. The military draft. Gun control laws. Abolition of the death penalty. Permanent income tax. Permanent subsidies for industry. Protective tariffs. Prohibition of smoking in privately-owned establishments. The list goes on.

Opportunities to REPEAL bad law are few and far between. There was an opportunity in Nevada to repeal a bad law, and the voters voted. The bad law remains on the books, due to the WILL OF THE MAJORITY. There was an opportunity in Arizona to REPEAL a bad law, and the voters voted. The bad law remains on the books, due to the WILL OF THE MAJORITY. Democracy in action -- the people have spoken.

pinky



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