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libertaire
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262039 - 04/30/09 11:43 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is no where near close to your acceptable situation of someone trying to kill your loved one. As I said, he was not violent at all, even when they were taking him down. The cops were the only ones being violent in this case.
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E. Goff
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: libertaire]
#10262056 - 04/30/09 11:46 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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libertaire said: This is no where near close to your acceptable situation of someone trying to kill your loved one. As I said, he was not violent at all, even when they were taking him down. The cops were the only ones being violent in this case.
He disobeyed a direct order by an officer of the law. This gives the officer permission to taze. I'm sorry you don't like it, but this is the world we live in.
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262064 - 04/30/09 11:48 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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That goes against your moral statement you just made that violence is only acceptable in dire circumstances.
I'm well aware of the fact that this is the world we live in, but that doesn't mean that I agree with it, and think it should be changed.
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Ego Death
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262066 - 04/30/09 11:48 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Obey the law
Can you say hypocrisy?
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E. Goff
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: libertaire]
#10262088 - 04/30/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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libertaire said: That goes against your moral statement you just made that violence is only acceptable in dire circumstances.
I'm well aware of the fact that this is the world we live in, but that doesn't mean that I agree with it, and think it should be changed.
I do not agree with it either. It is, however, the law. You need to understand that.
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E. Goff
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: Ego Death]
#10262094 - 04/30/09 11:53 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ego Death said:
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Obey the law
Can you say hypocrisy?
Enlighten me on the hypocrisy of my statement, which was "Obey the law and you won't get tazed."
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libertaire
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262112 - 04/30/09 11:55 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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E. Goff said:
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libertaire said: That goes against your moral statement you just made that violence is only acceptable in dire circumstances.
I'm well aware of the fact that this is the world we live in, but that doesn't mean that I agree with it, and think it should be changed.
I do not agree with it either. It is, however, the law. You need to understand that.
I just said I'm well aware of the fact that it's the law. I never was arguing that point. I'm just arguing the moral basis of the law, which you seem to agree with on one hand and then in the next breath dispute. Make up your mind.
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E. Goff
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: libertaire]
#10262131 - 04/30/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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libertaire said:
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E. Goff said:
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libertaire said: That goes against your moral statement you just made that violence is only acceptable in dire circumstances.
I'm well aware of the fact that this is the world we live in, but that doesn't mean that I agree with it, and think it should be changed.
I do not agree with it either. It is, however, the law. You need to understand that.
I just said I'm well aware of the fact that it's the law. I never was arguing that point. I'm just arguing the moral basis of the law, which you seem to agree with on one hand and then in the next breath dispute. Make up your mind.
So you're engaging in intellectual masturbation? I do not condone violence. However, the law grants police the right to use force. If you wish to avoid the having police use force on you, do not break law. That is my position. It has never changed, contrary to your assertion.
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DroneLore
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: twenty three]
#10262182 - 04/30/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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That was absolutely disgusting. Oh no, a human body! It's been said before and deserves reiteration: fuck the police.
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Calix
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262206 - 04/30/09 12:12 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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what happened to cops being "public servants"
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libertaire
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262225 - 04/30/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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E. Goff said:
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libertaire said:
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libertaire said: That goes against your moral statement you just made that violence is only acceptable in dire circumstances.
I'm well aware of the fact that this is the world we live in, but that doesn't mean that I agree with it, and think it should be changed.
I do not agree with it either. It is, however, the law. You need to understand that.
I just said I'm well aware of the fact that it's the law. I never was arguing that point. I'm just arguing the moral basis of the law, which you seem to agree with on one hand and then in the next breath dispute. Make up your mind.
So you're engaging in intellectual masturbation? I do not condone violence. However, the law grants police the right to use force. If you wish to avoid the having police use force on you, do not break law. That is my position. It has never changed, contrary to your assertion.
You're missing the point my friend.
I'm not debating the fact that if you fuck with the police, you will get fucked. That's a given, equivelent to trying to drive the point home to someone that the sky is blue. "You're not getting it man, I'm just trying to say that the sky is blue".
I'm arguing the moral legitimacy of the ability of the police to be able to do this. You seem to be advocating their ability to brutalize citizens for no lesser of a reason than failure to obey. That is authoritarianism at it's highest level and I object to it whenever I can. You on the other hand seem to be advocating it.
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DroneLore
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: libertaire]
#10262239 - 04/30/09 12:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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libertaire said: He didn't know what he was doing though, he had a head full of acid.
Thank you. I was wondering why the hell a forum about psychedelics was expecting this guy to take the same rational, hard-headed approach to the situation a sober person would.
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In_A_Transit
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: twenty three]
#10262437 - 04/30/09 12:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been shocked by a pig shocker once on LSD. My whole body flew into paralyzed state for a couple of seconds after the initial shock.
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: In_A_Transit]
#10262478 - 04/30/09 01:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those pigs were way out of line. I just watched the video.
And you weren't joking, he has like....no penis....at all.
Go figure.
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: E. Goff]
#10262548 - 04/30/09 01:17 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fact your on a drug site made me assume you probably don't obey the law or have you never taken an illegal substance?
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: marmarlun]
#10262856 - 04/30/09 02:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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What really bugs me about this is people start booing the cops. The cops used exactly the force they needed to (He resisted, tried to run, resisted more, resisted after being physically subdued, etc etc), and the crowd turned this in to some sort of crusade against 'the man' shouting things like 'the whole world is watching', as if they would be punished for what they did that day. 'He ain't doing shit'. Well that's just BS.
You see, this is an issue of community values. Being naked in public is a "crime" because it goes against social mores. In Canada, women are allowed to go topless in public. Sure this guy probably got naked at the wrong time and place and people around him weren't digging it.
But what we see in the video is that the community found the actions of the police to be EXCESSIVELY more offensive than the naked dude.
So if the police are there to enforce a law that supposedly represents the values of the community, then why does the community reject their enforcement?
I'm sure people felt "uncomfortable" but nobody wanted that guy to be TORTURED WITH ELECTRICITY!
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Legalize
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#10263031 - 04/30/09 02:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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That dude straight up has the smallest dick I have ever seen.
I've straight up seen outie belly buttons bigger than that hog.
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: Legalize]
#10263182 - 04/30/09 02:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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The dumb ass got what he deserved. IMO the cops were being lenient because of their surroundings. I would asked the guy 3 times, tackled, tased if necessary(as it was in the video), and brought in.
Most likely he was taken in, acted like dumb ass, then taken to a room and got beat the fuck up. That's what happens when you think you're above the law, around the law.
I bet he wont make that mistake twice.
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: Legalize]
#10263197 - 04/30/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn I feel bad for this dude, even though he was breaking a law I always feel bad for people who aren't harming anyone and are tripping hard and have to deal with police and tazers.
On the other hand I think these cops handled it better than most usually do, they did give him a ton of chances to put his clothes on and stuff before getting physical. When that cop was pushing his head into the ground by his hair I could only think "OUCH".
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Re: Man on acid gets tazed for not putting clothing on (Video) [Re: Revolutionine]
#10263555 - 04/30/09 04:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea I'm sorry to say this but those cops where being really really cool at first(that is if after he clothed himself they let him be)they even handed him his fucking close.I cant stand a lot of the laws with in our system but come on,play it smart not stupid,he was asking for trouble,or jail time.
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