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InvisibleJimithing
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will i die?
    #1025892 - 11/05/02 11:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I recently found mold in one of my B+ jars, the mold was 1/3 the size of a dime and has stopped growing, when the cake is fully colonized can i still grow and eat the fruits of my labor or should i just throw the cake out now? What about if i cut the mold out?


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Re: will i die? [Re: Jimithing]
    #1025898 - 11/05/02 11:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

well if your lucky the mycelium will take it over and everything will be safe.


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Re: will i die? [Re: daussaulit]
    #1025902 - 11/05/02 11:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

your going to die!!! eat theeeem!!!!


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Re: will i die? [Re: daussaulit]
    #1025912 - 11/05/02 11:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

So if  mycelium will took over it is safe to eat the shrooms ?
Anyone with a bad experience out there ?
(If you not dead of coarse :smirk:


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Re: will i die? [Re: BC-Shroom]
    #1025918 - 11/05/02 11:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

You're good, just don't eat shrooms from the cake if it is massively contaminated.


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Re: will i die? [Re: Jimithing]
    #1026070 - 11/06/02 12:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

If it gets overly contaminated, you won't have any decent shrooms to worry about!


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Re: will i die? [Re: Jimithing]
    #1026146 - 11/06/02 12:37 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Some molds are very very toxic and its not recommended to eat any shrooms from a contaminated cake as it could get you very sick. Some people do take the risk but it's up to you to decide if the risk is worth it.


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Re: will i die? [Re: Jimithing]
    #1026187 - 11/06/02 12:48 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I think your best option would be to remove the mold with a sterile knife and just watch and see if it comes back. You might want to move that moldy cake out of the fruiting chamber tho


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Re: will i die? [Re: Jimithing]
    #1026202 - 11/06/02 12:54 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

sell the shrooms from that cake...just kidding


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Re: will i die? [Re: Blu Spore]
    #1026212 - 11/06/02 12:56 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Cutting the moldy part off does not really reduce the risk. Mycellium is a living network, and toxins can be transfered from any point on the cake to the rest of the cake, and the shrooms.


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Re: will i die? [Re: StS]
    #1026233 - 11/06/02 01:02 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

What if the mushroom itself appears healthy and the mold is growing near the base, but not on the mushroom itself?


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Re: will i die? [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1026247 - 11/06/02 01:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Still a risk. As I pointed out, the toxins can be transfered throughout the cake and into the mushrooms, no matter where they fruit from, through the mycellial network.


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Re: will i die? [Re: StS]
    #1026263 - 11/06/02 01:10 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Ya, you did say that. I should've paid closer attention! Thanks.


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Re: will i die? [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1026328 - 11/06/02 01:25 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Try digging into the cake and you`ll most likely find the cake is infact green inside, more so than outside.


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Re: will i die? [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #1026443 - 11/06/02 01:54 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I have eaten mushrooms from contaminated substrates several times. I felt secure in the rational that it was infinitly more likely to be a harmless common bread mold than a deadly toxic mold. I did not die. Although some would call me a fool.


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Re: will i die? [Re: Teon]
    #1026460 - 11/06/02 01:59 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Does anybody have a link or something explaining the whole "Toxin transfer" thing that happens? If cubensis mycelium can transfer deadly chemicals from mold to mushrooms then that means its not safe to eat any wild mushroom at all because you never know, underground it might be transfering death cap chems into the mushrooms. I don't believe it myself.


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Re: will i die? [Re: Teon]
    #1027217 - 11/06/02 08:43 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

I felt secure in the rational that it was infinitly more likely to be a harmless common bread mold than a deadly toxic mold. I did not die.



Almost any mold or contamination you grow is a "common" one. The problem here is that you are producing a large concentration of the contamination which could prove quite problematic upon consumption.


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Re: will i die? [Re: Jimithing]
    #1027677 - 11/06/02 12:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

if u had a piece of meat in the fridge, to cook it on saturday and then you realized that there is some contamination or mold on one side, what would you do? would you cut the shit on the side and eat the rest?

i wouldnt :grin:

do as you wish. :smile:

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Re: will i die? [Re: kykeon]
    #1027699 - 11/06/02 12:33 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

good point kykeon.


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Re: will i die? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1027701 - 11/06/02 12:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

Does anybody have a link or something explaining the whole "Toxin transfer" thing that happens? If cubensis mycelium can transfer deadly chemicals from mold to mushrooms then that means its not safe to eat any wild mushroom at all because you never know, underground it might be transfering death cap chems into the mushrooms. I don't believe it myself.



Well, it's true. The mycelium network shares nutrients. It will not readily absorb anything, and will in fact neutralize many environmental toxins. However, many toxins are readily absorbed and transfered. I cannot direct you to a link but do some searching on your own. You may not find definitive info regarding the common common contams a cultivator faces with regard to "toxin transfer" rates, but hey, if you want to experiment with yourself feel free.


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