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Dr. Awesome
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quick question about hydrated lime
#10242753 - 04/27/09 01:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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i haven't been able to find an answer to this question so hopefully someone can let me know. is hydrated lime only beneficial in a casing layer? or can my bulk substrates also benefit from using hydrated lime? i bought a 20kg bag of it yesterday, for $12.00, and unfortunately it was the only size bag i could buy. this bag is gonna last longer than i will if im only using it for my casings. :P
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Re: quick question about hydrated lime [Re: Dr. Awesome]
#10242760 - 04/27/09 01:21 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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You COULD use it in subs, IF its needed. Isnt really needed with standard subs with cubs.
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Shroominit
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Before you open that bag, search all around it for the word "dolomitic" -- You don't want dolomitic lime, it has lots of magnesium which is bad for myc.
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Dr. Awesome
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my bulk substrates tend to have a pH between 6 and 6.5, so what you're saying is that i could use it to bring my pH up to 7.5 and be good to go? what about being used in conjunction with gypsum? since the gypsum stabilizes the pH, and the lime raises the pH, using the 2 together should allow my bulk subs to maintain optimal pH for a longer period of time?
-------------------- Like the time I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.
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Dr. Awesome
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Re: quick question about hydrated lime [Re: Shroominit]
#10242809 - 04/27/09 01:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shroominit said: Before you open that bag, search all around it for the word "dolomitic" -- You don't want dolomitic lime, it has lots of magnesium which is bad for myc.
its definitely NOT dolomitic lime. already bought a box of that by mistake once, good thing i was smart enough to double check before putting any in my casing layers or substrates. the bag is huge and very clearly says "agricultural hydrated lime" on the bag and has the consistency of baking flour.
-------------------- Like the time I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.
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Re: quick question about hydrated lime [Re: Dr. Awesome]
#10242821 - 04/27/09 01:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont know about all that. I mean, I GUESS you could.I tried additives in the past, and didnt see any exponential change in flushes or number of them. So I will backoff and let someone that does all that to answer.
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johnwayne
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from what i've read, yes. rr did some test and checked the ph of coir for a couple days and it progressively gets more acidic, which trich loves, adding hydrated lime to anything will raise the ph make it more of a base, which trich hate.......also if your getting trich before the substrate is fully colonized start there because that is most likely the root of the problem (your jar prep), dont just band-aid.
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Re: quick question about hydrated lime [Re: Dr. Awesome]
#10243081 - 04/27/09 02:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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im just looking to help keep contams at bay for maybe 1 or 2 more flushes. so far im getting 3-4 flushes before i get any trich contamination. none of it seems to be from my grain spawn. i do get the odd contam in my jars, maybe 1 out of every 15-20 jars, which i think is pretty good considering i don't use a glove box or flow hood when innoculating, and my roommates bedroom is practically a mold farm :P so there is no shortage of mold spores floating around in my house that is for sure lol. the most common places if been getting trich contams is in the pits of the substrate and casing layer after harvesting, and on the sides when the substrates shrinks away from the edges.
i'll go ahead and give the hydrated lime a go in my next bulk run and compare the results. im sure that the mushies will love that added little bit of calcium as well
-------------------- Like the time I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.
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Re: quick question about hydrated lime [Re: Dr. Awesome]
#10243254 - 04/27/09 02:48 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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trich likes pools of water, sounds like thats your issue. have you tried dabbing the wet spots? fan more?
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