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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Behavior and Environment. [Re: Icelander]
    #10207854 - 04/21/09 03:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yes.  If we are only animals, that would be murder.


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Re: Behavior and Environment. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #10207909 - 04/21/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I don't follow your logic here. To me killing and eating is a perfectly natural act unless all of nature is "evil".

Just because we are all animals doesn't mean we are all the same species.

Is it your pov that humans are somehow divinely created and special among all other creatures?


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Re: Behavior and Environment. [Re: Icelander]
    #10207951 - 04/21/09 03:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I don't follow your logic here. To me killing and eating is a perfectly natural act unless all of nature is "evil".




Would killing and eating humans be murder?  Would it be a violation of the law?

If the law is set up to only protect our species, AND OTHER SPECIES DESERVE PROTECTION (sorry for the caps), the law is founded on a bias that cannot be considered humane, but merely biased for one's own species.  The term they use for this is Speciesism.  Have you looked at it?

Check it out.  It's my contention that if natural selection is true, speciesism, regarding our treatment of animals is the only logically consistent view.


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Re: Behavior and Environment. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #10207995 - 04/21/09 03:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I agree. We are designed to favor our species and insure it's survival. That's a given. However as I said the needless mistreatment of other life forms be it trees or monkeys does us harm psychologically IMO and makes us more dangerous to ourselves.


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Re: Behavior and Environment. [Re: Icelander]
    #10208047 - 04/21/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I got the needless part.  That's obviously wrong whether we are just an animal or not.


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