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psychedelia56
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Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep?
#10207547 - 04/21/09 02:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi there,
I was recently wondering if it might be possible to store fresh mushrooms and keep them that way - by vacuum sealing. I just got a vacuum sealer from my buddy and I plan on keeping the shrooms as fresh as possible (since we all know fresh is better than dry). If I stored them in the fridge in a vacuum sealed package would they stay fresh, or do you think that's risking something (mushrooms going dry, contams, etc)?
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: psychedelia56]
#10207561 - 04/21/09 02:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think the main thing about the rotting is that there is already liquid in the mushrooms when they're fresh. If you vacuum seal them, the liquid locks in... and therefore still rotts.
I could be wrong.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: psychedelia56]
#10207572 - 04/21/09 02:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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since we all know fresh is better than dry).
says who? its easier to get an accurate dose when dry if your talking active mushies. you never sure due to water content when you eat fresh.
mushrooms rot if stored wet, you can store almost indefinitely if you dry 100% and store with a desiccant pack in your storage container.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: Fryer Mike]
#10207573 - 04/21/09 02:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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botulism is bad. dry them out before you seal them or they will be ruined and extremely poisonous.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: fishy]
#10207593 - 04/21/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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mmmmmmmmm botulism!!!!
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: fishy]
#10207602 - 04/21/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting. I just figured if there was no moisture content being lost due to no air getting at them that they might keep. I guess not. Well darn!
And I said fresh are better than dry because of the alkaloids, not because of dosing. Besides, most of us are experienced shroomers here; dosing shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: psychedelia56]
#10207627 - 04/21/09 02:39 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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And I said fresh are better than dry because of the alkaloids, not because of dosing
the alkaloids dont go anywhere when you dry them. so theres is no diff in that aspect. but whatever floats your boat.
dry em, its better for storage.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: psychedelia56]
#10207631 - 04/21/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fruits are just gonna go bad, don't just throw out your hard earneed mushrooms.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: 13shrooms]
#10207637 - 04/21/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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And I said fresh are better than dry because of the alkaloids, not because of dosing
the alkaloids dont go anywhere when you dry them. so theres is no diff in that aspect. but whatever floats your boat.
dry em, its better for storage.
Why have I always heard differently, then? I heard some of the alkaloids get destroyed in the drying process.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: psychedelia56]
#10207655 - 04/21/09 02:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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psychedelia56 said:
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13shrooms said:
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And I said fresh are better than dry because of the alkaloids, not because of dosing
the alkaloids dont go anywhere when you dry them. so theres is no diff in that aspect. but whatever floats your boat.
dry em, its better for storage.
Why have I always heard differently, then? I heard some of the alkaloids get destroyed in the drying process.
That's a myth.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: Brennus]
#10207664 - 04/21/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh, thanks for clearing that up then.
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: psychedelia56]
#10207820 - 04/21/09 03:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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put em in honey they will stay fresh for days and tasty and then u can add some of that honey to ur tea every so often lol
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: Brennus]
#10208082 - 04/21/09 03:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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psychedelia56 said:
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13shrooms said:
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And I said fresh are better than dry because of the alkaloids, not because of dosing
the alkaloids dont go anywhere when you dry them. so theres is no diff in that aspect. but whatever floats your boat.
dry em, its better for storage.
Why have I always heard differently, then? I heard some of the alkaloids get destroyed in the drying process.
That's a myth.
I thought the psilocyn in the fresh mushrooms was lost due to oxidation when dried?
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Re: Vacuum sealing fresh mushrooms, will it keep? [Re: MrBuddy]
#10208127 - 04/21/09 03:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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what causes them to spoil and rot is bacteria, not just moisture and exposure to air. Thats why drying is the only way to keep them for long periods of time. Without any moisture, moulds and bacteria cant grow.
Ive heard honey can keep them, not sure how long. Personaly i have kept fresh cubes for 5-6 days in the fridge in an open container. They will still dry out a little.
The active chemicals break down in the presence of oxygen. Get them dry quickly and out of the air, then they will keep for a long tie with minimal potency loss. Many people dry there mushrooms at upto 150F in a dehdyrator then will store them in an airtight container.
drying doesnt cause oxidisation, exposure to air does.
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