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Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare
    #10204307 - 04/20/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ok Shroomers, this is my first attempt at growing. I have dedicated a bathroom to be my grow site. I have drained and sterilized the toilet with bleach, 409 and ajax.  I will also be sealing the bowl and resevior so nothing can enter from the pipes. I have sealed the drain to the sink so nothing can come up from the pipes.  I have disabled and sealed the exhaust fan. I will be disinfecting the walls with bleach and 409. I will be covering the walls with sheet plastic to maintain the humid enviroment. I will be replacing the 4 small light bulbs in the overhead light fixture with CFLs. I have put weather stripping around the door to reduce airflow into the room. I will be using Ball mason jars inside plastic containers for cultivating then shotgun plastic containers for fruiting. I am using BRF, Vermiculite and Perlite for my cakes and to maintain humidity. I am planning on using damprid and a mini-fan (4") in another shotgun plastic container to dry them. I am also buying an air filter to keep contaminants out. Am I missing anything? Will the damprid be enough to fully dry them and should they be in a sealed or shotgun box for best results?  How long should the CFLs be on per day? Should the CFLs be on during both the cultivating AND fruiting processes?Is the air filter necessary? Thank you all for any advice you can offer.

Edited by Roland123 (04/20/09 10:38 PM)

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10204574 - 04/20/09 10:55 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I see a lot of people are viewing this post. Help me out here guys. Any feedback will help. I have no one else to talk to about how to get this going.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10204658 - 04/20/09 11:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Roland123 said:
I see a lot of people are viewing this post. Help me out here guys. Any feedback will help. I have no one else to talk to about how to get this going.




People say not to use a bathroom because there is almost certainly mold on and under everything in there. You won't be able to clean it short of taking the bathroom apart.

You don't use damprid with a shotgun terrarium. Fan dry until mostly dry and then finish with the damprid in an airtight container.

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I am using BRF, Vermiculite and Perlite for my cakes and to maintain humidity.




Vermiculite and perlite "for" your cakes? What do you mean by that? Don't put perlite in your cakes. Verm goes in your cakes. Perlite goes in the shotgun terrarium.

You should search and read more. All the answers are in the archives.

Good luck!

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: freespeech]
    #10204666 - 04/20/09 11:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

www.mushroomvideos.com You have read or been told wrong or a law enforcement officer nah lol.


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Polk_Audio3]
    #10204695 - 04/20/09 11:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks freespeech. No I'm not putting perlite in the cake, brf and verm, with the perlite in the terrarium. I have nowhere else to dedicate to the cultivating besides the b-room, that's why I'm going nuts with the disinfectants and sealing. I'm no damn officer Polk. I have watched a lot of videos and read for hours, but I am going down the checklist and making sure I have everything. Please keep responding to this post, I really want to get this right.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10204709 - 04/20/09 11:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

"I will also be sealing the bowl and resevior so nothing can enter from the pipes. I have sealed the drain to the sink so nothing can come up from the pipes.  I have disabled and sealed the exhaust fan."

:rofl2:

Gonna shit outside?? Good joke sir....


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10204714 - 04/20/09 11:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I know Roland I was pulling you pinky toe! lol like freespeech said the bathroom is not a good place. Do you have a glove box? What about FAE? What size jars?


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: drainhaven]
    #10204774 - 04/20/09 11:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It's a 2 story townhouse with 2 and a half bathrooms you tool. What does it take to get help around here. I'm a personal trainer who moonlites as a bouncer at a nightclub. I got a long history of getting loaded and an expunged rap-sheet from my early twenties. I have a fiancee and a dog named Bella. I drive an '87 Volvo. Anything else anyone wants to know before you'll help me? I'm not asking anyone to tell me where they eat,sleep,shit,fart, or fornicate. I'm just asking if I have everything I need to do this right. I really don't think giving advice on this shit is even grounds to prosecute OR investigate someone. If your some tweeked out paranoid idiot, please don't comment on my thread. ADVICE ONLY.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10204803 - 04/20/09 11:37 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I can make glove boxes, but was hoping I wouldnt have to. 1/2 pint jars. I was hoping to use a couple boxes as I have ordered several strains. That is the reason I wanted to use the entire bathroom.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10204865 - 04/20/09 11:50 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i usualy f'ing hate it when noobs get cocky!
but buddy i like you!
that was hilarious!

your going a little overboard with the toilet and plastic.
your bathroom sounds good and clean!

it sounds like you are trying for a nice large environment, so i'd say go easier and build a martha. the problem with having that much humidity in your bathroom is you'd be litteraly harvesting mold.

if you go out and buy a set of cheap plastic garage shelving, you can wrap that with plastic and throw a cool mist humidifier in it."but hurry as soon as summer comes they are a little harder to come by"


the air filter isn't needed, a food dehydrator imo is much quiker than damprid, however you can store them with damprid to make sure they stay cracker dry and don't mold. dont worry about heat from the dehydrator/ i have never had a problem with potency.


if you have any other questions i would be more than happy to help!


btw welcome to the shroomery man! people are usualy very helpful around here but once they get to jokin around it can get annoying.
but judging from your response YOUR GOING TO FIT IN GREAT!


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: deladude]
    #10204898 - 04/21/09 12:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Tool eh?  I had it coming haha...

But lighten up,  youre on a psychedelic board already so enjoy yourself!! sheesh
When things are funny I laugh. But really read the description to a friend, stranger, or dog and see if they dont laugh out loud.

Also, pay extra attention to "trusted cultivators" and none to me.
You can search by topic and trusted cultivators-priceless. :hi:


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: drainhaven]
    #10204959 - 04/21/09 12:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Excellent. I'll get the shelving and the dehydrator. Thanks a lot deladude. I'm not mad at you drainhaven, I know that people joke on forums all the time. I'm no stranger to giving a newb a hard time. I didn't know I could search by specific members. I'm stoked about this forum and my upcoming attempt at cultivation. Thanks guys.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10205000 - 04/21/09 12:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

looks like your more prepared then I was my first time, lol, sounds like you know what you are talking about so good luck to ya.


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10205115 - 04/21/09 01:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Roland123 said:
I can make glove boxes, but was hoping I wouldnt have to. 1/2 pint jars. I was hoping to use a couple boxes as I have ordered several strains. That is the reason I wanted to use the entire bathroom.





if you are doing 1/2 pint jars then there is no reason to seal off an entire bathroom, the point of the jars is for the sterility and optimal CO2 levels.  In a townhome, go monotub or just go to walmart and buy a couple of 10 gallon fish tanks ( $12/each ).  Once the jars are colonized you will not have to worry too much about contams.  My grow room consists of canvas painters covers for furniture mounted to ceiling and hangs to floor in garage to cut down on air movements while working.  Of course I dont have all the experience of a lot of these guys, but out of 6 different cake and monotub projects, no contams yet.  Just remember, there is such a thing as trying to be too clean.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: Roland123]
    #10205815 - 04/21/09 08:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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moonlites as a bouncer at a nightclub




dont get enough income from the shit you take from people? so trying to grow some shrooms? or do you use all the drugs you take from people yourself?  :rail:

Also wondering if you want to grow shrooms because you cant bust people with shrooms on them? or just looking for some extra income and fun while your annoying the shit out of people.

Nice aggressive attitude 2, something that is apperently universal in your trade together with any sign of intelligence and manners. is it because of the steroids? questions.. questions..


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: virus1824]
    #10205851 - 04/21/09 08:29 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

come one people stop wasting forum space messing around. The guy is asking for some advice.

Bathrooms are generaly not the greatest place to use, since they are usually quite moist and tend to grow various different types of moulds. The toilette itself is very dirty as everytime its flushed it sprays fecial matter everywhere.

However, it seems like this bathroom isnt going to be used as a bathroom, is well cleaned. So i guess it will be fine. Keeping it nice and sanitised should make it a nice workspace.

You dont have to worry about using plastic sheeting over the walls and keeping the room humid. Thats what your fruiting chamber is for. Chances are that if you do humidify that room, your going to get condensation everywhere on the walls and thats what will allow moulds and bacteria to grow.

I seriously suggest building a glovebox for working with inoculations, making syringes prints etc - it doesnt cost much its just a big clear pastic container with 2 holes for your arms. Its damn neer impossible to keep a room free of contaminants without sealing it complelty off and heavily filtering the air. even then, you will be bringing some contaminants in and out. You are a big vector in contaminnation.

Get yourself some latex gloves. Your shedding dead skin cells all the time.Dont want that landing on your stuff. weiring freshly laundered cloathes is a good idea.


70% alcohol you will need, for cleaning your gloved hands and wiping jar lids before inoculation. You need something for flame sterilising your syringe needles. I suggest a lighter that has a wind proof flame. Those ones that have a blue flame work great. REgular lighters work ok but it takes so damn long to heat the needle up. I use a small blotorch and it heats the needle up in half a second and gets it white hot.

www.mushroomvideos.com

has some great videos showing the entire process.


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10205973 - 04/21/09 09:04 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you could put some bleach in the sink trap.  that way you could continue using it, just throw a bit down it each time you do use it.

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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: MasterCaster]
    #10206033 - 04/21/09 09:24 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You are doing better than me buddy..You got the right idea the fact that you can commit a whole room to this Hobey is great!! forget that it is a bathroom after everything yo have described doing it is now you're own professional lab. I have always gone with mono tubs myself in the past just because they are low maintenance and give great yields. It sounds to me having all that space and a shotgun terrarium is a waste..I guess get a feel for things first..Then play around. As long as you keep you're new Lab sterile you should have no problems...You read about other growers who try and get that third flush outta a mono before the trich sets in...so remember mold spores are everywhere....Good Luck.........>>*E


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: electrics]
    #10206050 - 04/21/09 09:29 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

dont use damprid as desiccant!
think of the planet, bake some epsom salts for an hour and use that instead (after the fanning, of course)...
things like damprid cause all sorts of ecological problems...
just tryin to keep things healthy :smile:


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Re: Room and materials, 1st timer, pls help me prepare [Re: electrics]
    #10206066 - 04/21/09 09:32 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I actually like this idea. Just having a dedicated space, even for growing pf cakes. Im sure you will progress to bigger things when you get a few pf grows under your belt.

Im going to be venture into a mono type grow soon on a small scale using this



its a minidub tub using 2 3 litre food tubs. The lid has the middle cut out so basicaly its just the part that attaches to the tub left and glued together so both tubs snap together.

Ive not when with polyfill holes but instead 1/4 inch holes along the substrate level.

Im going to be testing it soon with just crumbled cakes to see how it does to find out how many holes i can use before RH suffers. I want to get as much FAE in these while keeping rh high


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