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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: Dark_globe]
#10225749 - 04/24/09 11:57 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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That one is a Stropharia, maybe Stropharia rugosoannulata.
That one is a Lepiota / Chlorophyllum / Macrolepiota.
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Dark_globe
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im sure ive read it b4 but can't find it, but in ideal conditions how long after a decent rainfall will subs fruit for??
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: pheral]
#10228785 - 04/24/09 09:37 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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pheral said: Thanks undergrounder did leave boletus Alone Cubensis r entertaining me Fine Radiata pine shrooms IE Winter seasons is what i class as liberty cap m seeking a closer forest than delamere 4 winter ANY INFO on purplartus???is a purple aminita yellow sponge not gills grows on logs
Normal liberty caps grow from grass and are the magic mushrooms you get in the UK: Psilocybe semilanceata. Not sure what ones your referring to, i guess you mean Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
Anyway do you mean Gymnopilus purpuratus? It isn't an Amanita, its Gymnopilus, it has real gills, not sponge gills, but other than that can't help you there, never found them before.
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X_RayCat
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those bad lookin ones (Galerina) are quite an eye opener, i'll have to be very careful when sorting them from the good ones.
i'm heading out bush real soon to have a look around, i may need you guys to identify whatever i get.
cheers
Edited by X_RayCat (04/25/09 06:39 AM)
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pheral
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: X_RayCat]
#10230325 - 04/25/09 08:34 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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have always thought whatya call subs where liberty They arrived with radiata fruits in circles average 30ft around Tip is never pick the 1st til ya sight the 2nd average 7 per circle Thanks 4 info on name Purpuratus m chasin info Is a member of aminita so I believe due to its lumpy top Definately aint got gills is a bright yellow sponge underneath that turns blue Instantly when touched Lives on rotten logs Have found others saying they have eaten it My rule is If it has no gills or has a ring on stem is More then likely Dangerous any info on this shroom greatly appreciated Also m Wanting trade Cubensus spores for phsycadelic species that will fruit out of horse Dung
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: pheral]
#10230399 - 04/25/09 09:18 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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whoa man use some full stops.
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X_RayCat
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: BigSpoon]
#10230542 - 04/25/09 10:14 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah that was a little hard to read
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undergrounder
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: pheral]
#10234684 - 04/26/09 02:21 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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pheral said:Thanks 4 info on name Purpuratus m chasin info Is a member of aminita so I believe due to its lumpy top Definately aint got gills is a bright yellow sponge underneath that turns blue Instantly when touched Lives on rotten logs
That's impossible, no Amanitas have yellow sponge, they ALL have white gills. Just because a cap is bumpy does not mean it's an Amanita. NO Amanitas are active for psilocybin, and many are truly deadly. Never eat an Amanita.
What you are talking about sounds like Boletellus emodensis or Boletellus ananiceps. They are not active in any way and can be mildly poisonous. You can't get high on them and they can make you sick. If you know people that have eaten one, they're idiots that put things they don't know into their mouths and one day they will kill themselves.
There is no rule for telling what is active or what is deadly. Many mushrooms without rings are deadly poisonous. Many mushrooms with yellow pores instead of gills are deliciously edible. Many mushrooms that bruise blue are very poisonous and not active in any way. Unless you properly ID a mushroom, you don't know whether it's deadly or active or what and sooner or later you'll eat the wrong thing and get sick or die.
Anyway you sound mixed up as to what the names are. If it helps:
Liberty caps are Psilocybe semilanceata, you don't find them in Australia. They contain the 'magic' chemical Psilocybin. They slightly bruise blue when handled.
Subs are Psilocybe subaeruginosa they are a winter growing mushroom you find in woodchips. They contain the 'magic' chemical Psilocybin. They bruise blue when handled.
There are a few seriously deadly look-a-likes, like Galerina marginata and Galerina patagonica, both of which look very similar to subs and both of which will kill you if eaten. They don't bruise blue.
Cubes (Gold Tops) are Psilocybe cubensis, but you know that. They contain the 'magic' chemical Psilocybin. Grow from cow shit in summer. Bruise blue when handled.
'Blue Meanies' are Panaeolus cyanescens, grows from cow shit in summer. They contain the 'magic' chemical Psilocybin. Obviously bruise blue when handled.
Amanita muscaria are a red and white Amanita growing under Pine trees in autumn. They are poisonous if eaten raw and some say you can get an effect from properly cooking and eating them or even smoking their skin. They have no 'psilocybin' and if not done properly, could make you very sick. They don't bruise blue.
Edited by undergrounder (04/26/09 02:37 AM)
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BigSpoon
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ha, I've always thought subs were gold tops.
Thanks for the correction of my mind tank.
EDIT: Really hoping to go for a hunt on thursday or friday. Weather this week looks interesting...
Edited by BigSpoon (04/26/09 03:21 AM)
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: BigSpoon]
#10234923 - 04/26/09 04:17 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Personally, calling subs golden tops would make more sense to me, but it seems that they already have the name blue feet(i never find too many with blue feet).
Subs are definitely golden though, more golden than cubes, which in my experience are a mottled reddy orange. maybe we should be calling cubes sunny tops or something?
Speaking of which i found my first sub-pins and patches of the seasons up in some coastal sub tropical forest.
As for liberty caps, i think i would have been able to originally find them better if someone had described them to me as 'cold nipples'.
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 *DELETED* [Re: Nobitte]
#10234971 - 04/26/09 04:41 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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undergrounder
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Re: NSW Shroom Season 2009 [Re: Gavn]
#10235197 - 04/26/09 07:14 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL cold nipples... have you found them in Australia before?
Yeah I know people use the same names for everything.. BOTH subs and cubes are called gold tops, and all THREE of Ps. cubensis, Ps. subaeruginosa and Pan. cyans are called 'Blue meanies' by different people. Very confusing...
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Nobitte
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I found looads (thousands) in the UK obv, they grew in a field next to my house.
I personally have never found them here, but i have heard that people have found them down jamberoo way where they keep alot of sheep + get enough rain for them to want to fruit.
I cant see why they wouldnt be here if they had the right environ. might be a tad too warm in mid nsw though. as i recall the libs didnt start appearing until mid autumn where i was living in wales, which was when the temps went from 6-14 thereabouts, with a massive abundance of rain (snowdonia is good for that).
Looking at the aussie active guides, there supposedly have been libs in australia, but i havent tracked this down to an actual reference. I dont think ill go looking though, with subs coming up very soon indeed
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sorry i couldn't get a spore print, but i saw these and took some pics. neither of these bruised any blue colour, but i would like to know if they are anything of interest.
thanx guys
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Alan Rockefeller
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but i would like to know if they are anything of interest.
They are not "interesting".
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X_RayCat
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good man, cheers
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Milf
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oh my and the fun begins!
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undergrounder
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Re: id please [Re: Milf]
#10241295 - 04/27/09 06:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Congrats milf! big haul!
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Re: id please [Re: Milf]
#10241303 - 04/27/09 06:43 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Holy zombie jesus Milf!
*nomnomnomnomnom!*
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Lucas89
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Re: id please [Re: Milf]
#10241856 - 04/27/09 10:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh my lord, and its not even may!... kick arse haul though. if you don't mind me asking, what did those weigh both wet and dried?
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