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Unhealthy slimy mycelium
    #10183019 - 04/17/09 05:43 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hi all,

A week ago I took  a picture of my almost fully colonized verm/coir/coffee tub spawned with rye. It looked clear white and nice and fluffy, but now I have put the tub in fruiting conditions it looks unhealthy and like a snail has been going all over it. Some slimy substance is on the whole thing. And the fluffyness is gone a bit too, it looks like a much harder layer has formed on top of the mycelium. And water isn't really absorbed in the mycelium.
Anyway, check the pics, should I worry?

Here's the pic of last week



and heres one from this morning.  Notice the slimy substance in the left of the picture. The slight discoloration is from  the lamp that's hanging above it, the myc is actualy just white.

Edited by abshroomery (04/17/09 05:44 AM)

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: abshroomery]
    #10183063 - 04/17/09 06:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm no expert in monotubs but that looks extremely shallow to me.  I would guess that you are having problems with your FAE resulting in excessive humidity and so it is raining on your mycelium.  Wait to see what others say.

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: abshroomery]
    #10183164 - 04/17/09 06:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

it looks like you sub is drying out. do you have a good hygrometer in your tub?  what's it read?  i see no slime in that second pic and the first one is too crappy to tell anything.

you could try poking several small nail holes in your sub and pouring some water over it and letting it sit over night and then pour it off in the morn. 

if your having trouble keeping humidity up, which it looks like to me.  do as i mentioned above and then case your tub to help initiate pinning.

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: blood4blood]
    #10183184 - 04/17/09 07:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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blood4blood said:
it looks like you sub is drying out. do you have a good hygrometer in your tub?  what's it read?  i see no slime in that second pic and the first one is too crappy to tell anything.

you could try poking several small nail holes in your sub and pouring some water over it and letting it sit over night and then pour it off in the morn. 

if your having trouble keeping humidity up, which it looks like to me.  do as i mentioned above and then case your tub to help initiate pinning.



Why do you say it looks like it is drying out?  It looks the opposite to me.  Wouldn't it be bruising if it was drying out?

It also sounds like it could be overlay, but I thought it would usually be discoloured yellow if it had overlay.

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: Duggstar]
    #10183201 - 04/17/09 07:18 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Is it really drying out? There's tiny water drops all over the substrate!
and no, I don't have a hygrometer unfortunately.. There's little condensation on the tub but that doesn't mean much if I understood things correctly..

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: Duggstar]
    #10183213 - 04/17/09 07:22 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

ive noticed that when a sub becomes matted like that it's usually a sign that is drying out.  a good healthy sub should be rizomorphic and white.  his looks yellowish to me.

Op-  pick your tub up and if it feels alot lighter than when you spawned it find some way to hydrate it.

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: blood4blood]
    #10183224 - 04/17/09 07:28 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Okay I'm going to case it with straight verm, I have no limestone to raise the pH thats why im not doing 50/50. You might be right, it doesn;t really look hydrated except for the water dropletts.. Thanks for the advice, i hope it'll help!

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: abshroomery]
    #10183235 - 04/17/09 07:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

this is what a healthy, hydrated substrate looks like to me.

do you open your tub up alot?



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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: blood4blood]
    #10183237 - 04/17/09 07:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes that's what i had hoped my myc to look like. No not very often. once or twice a day, and then mist a little. There's a fan circulating the air in the room (not pointed directly at the tub)

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: abshroomery]
    #10183268 - 04/17/09 07:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

you can also try crumpled wax paper over the sub until pinning starts.  lift it a couple times a day to fan and switch every other day or so.  gl man.

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: blood4blood]
    #10183293 - 04/17/09 08:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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blood4blood said:
ive noticed that when a sub becomes matted like that it's usually a sign that is drying out.  a good healthy sub should be rizomorphic and white.  his looks yellowish to me.

Op-  pick your tub up and if it feels alot lighter than when you spawned it find some way to hydrate it.



On my screen it looks white, but if it is yellow, then it is overlay.  Overlay can be caused by a number of different things.  Understanding overlay

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: Duggstar]
    #10183816 - 04/17/09 10:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The myc is clear white. Not yellow at all thank god=) I have put 1/4 inch of hydrated verm on top, it should be alright now I hope...:crazy:. Thanks for al your help!

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: abshroomery]
    #10184273 - 04/17/09 12:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I've just been reading up on overlay but from what I have read it is only usually a problem with casings.  However, unless I am mistaken you didn't use a casing layer, did you?  Anyway, overlay is not necessarily yellow, it starts of white, and it is hard and matted.

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: Duggstar]
    #10193860 - 04/19/09 06:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It's all looking much more fluffy again and humidity is above 90% (don't know how high exactly, the hygrometer just says 'high' at anything above 90=)) So I've put a verm casing, a very thin one. It doesn't even cover the whole substrate so there are several spots where you can see the mycelium. What you can see too, is that the myc isn't growing over the verm. Is that okay? The tub has been in fruiting conditions for a week now so I can imagine it's set to fruiting, not growing myc anymore. Is this true?
I'm so glad it looks better again thanks for the tips:D

ps. I placed a fan next to the tub, not pointing at it. Should I still open the tub a couple of times a day or will it be fine like this?

Edited by abshroomery (04/19/09 06:56 AM)

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Re: Unhealthy slimy mycelium [Re: Duggstar]
    #10193923 - 04/19/09 07:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Duggstar said:
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blood4blood said:
ive noticed that when a sub becomes matted like that it's usually a sign that is drying out.  a good healthy sub should be rizomorphic and white.  his looks yellowish to me.

Op-  pick your tub up and if it feels alot lighter than when you spawned it find some way to hydrate it.



On my screen it looks white, but if it is yellow, then it is overlay.  Overlay can be caused by a number of different things.  Understanding overlay





Please dont mention overlay, its something most people will never ever experience and is greatly misunderstood.


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