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    #10186404 - 04/17/09 06:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

shit i got a letter from the fucking usda saying i shipped plants in the mail and that im supposed to call um........what do i do?????:blush:


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Re: BUSTED [Re: stonerkidofYH]
    #10186419 - 04/17/09 06:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

what are you shipping? eh ? eh?


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Re: BUSTED [Re: myCo_psyCo]
    #10186434 - 04/17/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

were you recieveing spores? i would just throw the letter in the trash, its the usda, they can actually enforce any actual jailtime for shipping spores, the worst they could do is tip off state police if spores are illegal in your state.


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Re: BUSTED [Re: kintos]
    #10186445 - 04/17/09 06:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It says plants, he was probably shipping without a license, which if they decide to enforce is a no-no. You can ignore it, just stop shipping or get a license.
This belongs in S&S.


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Re: BUSTED [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #10186501 - 04/17/09 07:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

move if ya like

so i shouldnt call?
even to apologise and say how i had no idea what i was dooin was wrong??


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Re: BUSTED [Re: stonerkidofYH]
    #10186523 - 04/17/09 07:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I would just stop sending things, call if you want to make sure; you don't want them to send more angry letters. Take the proper measures to get a license to ship live plants, this sort of thing is a rare occurrence as many members ship live plants on a daily basis and have no problems; if I remember the license is only like thirty dollars, well worth it.


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Re: BUSTED [Re: stonerkidofYH]
    #10186529 - 04/17/09 07:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

what were you mailing, what plant


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Re: BUSTED [Re: oh_you_know]
    #10186563 - 04/17/09 07:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

oh_you_know said:
what were you mailing, what plant



crack plant


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Re: BUSTED (moved) [Re: stonerkidofYH]
    #10186635 - 04/17/09 07:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.

Reason:
This post fits better that forum.

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Re: BUSTED (moved) [Re: felixhigh]
    #10186648 - 04/17/09 07:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Haha, that sucks. I had no idea you needed a license to ship plants;  the lady in the post office has heard me say I'm shipping plants multiple times.

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Re: BUSTED (moved) [Re: drift]
    #10186923 - 04/17/09 08:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you should get CITES or phytosanitory certification to ship plants between continents.
but it is an extra expense which most people do not want to pay out, i've never got the proper paperwork and never lost a plant despite importing 100's from outside of europe.
you can consider yourself unlucky to get caught.

exactly which type of paperwork would depend on what species we are talking about here.


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Re: BUSTED (moved) [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #10186959 - 04/17/09 08:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Interstate commerce, at least within the US regarding live plants is loosely regulated; if I remember he is from Hawaii, shipping it to the continental US could cause some problems if they were opened; do as uare says.


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Re: BUSTED [Re: stonerkidofYH]
    #10187130 - 04/17/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

stonerkidofYH said:
shit i got a letter from the fucking usda saying i shipped plants in the mail and that im supposed to call um........what do i do?????:blush:



That wasn't one of mine, was it? lol

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Re: BUSTED [Re: TheManWithTheHat]
    #10187193 - 04/17/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't do shit. Why poke a bees nest? The ball is in their court ... if they wish to do something then that's another story. I wouldn't sweat it.

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Re: BUSTED [Re: NineInchNails]
    #10187277 - 04/17/09 09:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't call, just let them call you if they need to.  If nothing else, you could say you never got a letter...

I know when customs grabs pills ordered from overseas, they send a letter, and the last thing i would do is call them, which is what many others in the business of buying pills online do, just ignore it, and they don't do anything...usda on the other hand, that could be some deep shit there.

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Re: BUSTED [Re: supra]
    #10187313 - 04/17/09 09:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

WTF was the plant? Thats all that really matters IMO. Play dumb and pay the incineration fee if there is one. If its illegal, than you are looking at smuggling and conspiracy charges.

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Re: BUSTED [Re: stonerkidofYH]
    #10187322 - 04/17/09 09:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

if this is real, definitely call them. just say you didn't ship anything, and that this letter took you for complete surprise.  you're not sure what they're talking about.


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Re: BUSTED [Re: jenns_hot]
    #10187394 - 04/17/09 09:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

And then you've turned what may not have been anything into a crime.



I would personally ignore the letter and do shipping legally in the future.



As far as any consequences from the shipment, it is best to say nothing at all.  Not "I didn't do it" not "I'm sorry" just nothing.

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Re: BUSTED [Re: johnm214]
    #10187465 - 04/17/09 10:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yep. Keep your mouth shut. I wouldn't go mailing out of the country anymore under your name or addy.

On a side note, if the mail in question is illegal and you call, who is to say thats not a federal officer of sorts that you are talking too. If it is, now you've just lied to a fed. Thats a crime.

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Re: BUSTED [Re: johnm214]
    #10187475 - 04/17/09 10:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

good point.


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