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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: FellowGrower]
#10228252 - 04/24/09 07:30 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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I have read that story and I agree that the police acted dishonorably.
My take on it is that they did have a warrant and they were just being dicks by refusing to show it to you.
But even if thats not the case I don't see what this has to do with the patriot act, FEMA camps, or any of the other stuff that you are worried about in this thread.
The experience you had is standard fare in the war on drugs. You should spend your time fighting the real problems which are out in the open, not some theoretical issue that is very unlikely to affect you, ever.
Join LEAP, MPP, DPA, NORML and DrcNet. If you don't have money you can email these organizations and ask how you can help fight the war on drugs. The professional drug reformers are very competent and they will have many suggestions.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10228451 - 04/24/09 08:06 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I have read that story and I agree that the police acted dishonorably.
My take on it is that they did have a warrant and they were just being dicks by refusing to show it to you.
But even if thats not the case I don't see what this has to do with the patriot act, FEMA camps, or any of the other stuff that you are worried about in this thread.
The experience you had is standard fare in the war on drugs. You should spend your time fighting the real problems which are out in the open, not some theoretical issue that is very unlikely to affect you, ever.
Join LEAP, MPP, DPA, NORML and DrcNet. If you don't have money you can email these organizations and ask how you can help fight the war on drugs. The professional drug reformers are very competent and they will have many suggestions.
...Thanks but no thanks, I already tried the whole "Fight for the legalization" route... you know where I ended up? ...The looney bin; and, as it turned out, until I changed my story (That I am the MLK of the legalize movement) ...They wern't gonna let me out! so, in reality; Im just here on borrowed time b/c the looney bin let me go for "Good Behavior" (as long as I take their pills) they'll let me mingle with society...but; if i start "Acting Crazy" they'll throw me right back in there!
So, what's my "NEW STORY?" (glad you asked!)...I hate all drugs; drugs are bad, No one should be allowed to use them,or grow them, I'm glad they're illegal, Im thankful to the looney bin for showing me the "Error in my ways"...These pills make me feel so much better... Blah Blah Blah, (you know the routine)
but;so;yeah!(anyway)... THATS MY STORY AND I'M STICKIN TO IT!
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: FellowGrower]
#10228831 - 04/24/09 09:46 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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I think it's bullshit that you got sent to the loony bin for being against the war on drugs, there had to be other reasons why you got sent there...
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Poid]
#10229941 - 04/25/09 02:27 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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you were in an asylum? how unexpected. Have you ever thought for a minute that you might actually have mental issues that need to be dealt with before you can become a decent member of society? because you are coming off as someone who has a lot of issues.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#10230036 - 04/25/09 04:11 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: Join LEAP, MPP, DPA, NORML and DrcNet. If you don't have money you can email these organizations and ask how you can help fight the war on drugs. The professional drug reformers are very competent and they will have many suggestions.
LEAP gave me good advice and helped me get some tough charges dropped in the past. Everything they told me was the same thing my high-cost lawyer said/did.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#10230039 - 04/25/09 04:12 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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LEAP and NORML are the shit.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Poid]
#10230071 - 04/25/09 04:37 AM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Poid said: I think it's bullshit that you got sent to the loony bin for being against the war on drugs, there had to be other reasons why you got sent there...
:Its a LONG story...Short version; That's not why I went (per sae) BUT its DEFINATLEY why they kept me there! I was seeking "Justification" for what had just happened to me (see story link above) and I wasn't gonna "Comply" with the bullshit anymore; until SOMEBODY, ANYBODY gave me a reason as to why its illegal...
What I found out was; there is no reason, and;but;so I was left with 3 options... either comply, stay in the looney bin, or go back to jail
So now I comply!;)
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: FellowGrower]
#10232625 - 04/25/09 06:30 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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Do you have a job? How do you support yourself?
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: NineInchNails]
#10271930 - 05/02/09 04:33 AM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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i read the start of this thread and the ending and boy has it gone awry. being someone that is in the military and actually stationed in the middle east right this second i have not even smelled anything that remotely suggests we are training for military exercises in the u.s. granted I'm just a burned out truck driver but come on that is really stretching the bounds of reality. trust me i know what that's like i am posting on this site.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Doc_T]
#10274237 - 05/02/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Poid said: Is the military preparing for some sort of event that will require martial law to be implemented on US citizens? If not, then why are they training their soldiers to be ready for such an event?
It's a long-standing policy. I was in the Army in the 80's, and we trained for this.
You might, for example, have a town that has been infected with a bio-warfare agent and must be quarantined for the good of the nation.
(There was a movie like that- Outbreak).
my best friend is a marine, and he confirmed this to me. and he told me he was asked on a quiz whether or not he would kill americans if ordered to do so. but i also feel comforted in knowing that he told me that a vast majority of american soldiers would defect or refuse an attack on our people.
i dont think the government is prepared to go up against 100,000,000 + gun owners plus a vast majority of its own trained military. and they know it.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: johnm214]
#10274279 - 05/02/09 05:09 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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You can be held for an 'undetermined' length of time, tortured (legaly of course), just to name a few.
You have the right to habeas corpus, the right to not be tortured. The disagreement is over what torture is. The government can only hold you in this way if you are a war criminal, and you still have rights to contest that determination.
if the government decided to enact martial law and ban the ownership of guns, wouldnt anyone who refused to turn them over be considered a "war criminal"?
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Anonymous #1]
#10283096 - 05/04/09 10:53 AM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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The original article doesn't have a reputable source. When you do a google search guess where it brings you? prisonplanet.com, Alex Jones website.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Rebirtha]
#10283764 - 05/04/09 01:28 PM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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a fountain of reputable knowledge
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Cubie]
#10284124 - 05/04/09 02:38 PM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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Cubie's friend said: I been doin a lot of fuel escorts, and the kurds and turks hate each other, so we have to break up their little gang wars, but other than that, pretty boring. and no, I'd shoot my supervisor, then run fast. fuck this country, and fuck haaji freedom! ----------------- Original Message ----------------- From: elesdee To: ><my friend>< Date: Apr 23, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: Hey!
Cubie said: how ya doing man? any cool stuff happen? staying away from trouble i hope! do you feel like your being trained to police people like in a Marshall law? fuck the new world order! would you shoot me if i wouldnt give my guns up and you were ordered to? Please stay safe dude! miss ya.
your mutha fuckin homie ><cubie><
yall might have missed this but i really did ask my bestfriend in iraq that shit  Were all fine d00d!
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Cubie]
#10286423 - 05/04/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah; I've been thinking about it too and "Martial law" is just not fuckin FEASABLE at this point... Have ya driven around this muttafucka lately? You know how many fuckin PEOPLE there are!!!? ...the cop to person ratio in this country is about 1 outta every what...? like? 300? 400? But their guns are more Hi-tech than ours???
And;but;so I say that... but; WTF? the jews way out numbered the NAZIS too!???!
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: FellowGrower]
#10286472 - 05/04/09 08:38 PM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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take your drivel to another website goldenschlager.
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#10286686 - 05/04/09 09:05 PM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yes MAAM! ...But will you just read this again?
Then, when you're done with that; YOu can come at me in another thread...this anit the place... but bring it to my OTD thread...and lets see what your made of!!! Bring it on!!!
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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: FellowGrower]
#10286750 - 05/04/09 09:11 PM (15 years, 18 days ago) |
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how about i just ignore you?
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