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U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens
    #10180440 - 04/16/09 08:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens

Published on 2008-02-04 00:00:00

Author - Paul Joseph Watson

U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members, as part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.

We received an e mail from "Scott", a member of a pipefitters union that runs an apprenticeship program called Helmets To Hard Hats, which according to its website, "Is a national program that connects National Guard, Reserve and transitioning active-duty military members with quality career training and employment opportunities within the construction industry."
Scott writes that his company hired a soldier who had recently returned from Iraq, who told him that U.S. troops were being quizzed on whether or not they would be prepared to shoot their own friends and family members during a national state of emergency in America.

"I have become very close to this young man and have gained his respect and trust," writes Scott. "I want you to know that he informed me about one particular training exercise his superiors made them perform. It was concerning the rounding up of American citizens that disobey any type of martial law or in other words any type of infringement on our freedoms."

"He was asked if he could shoot his friends or family members if ordered to do so. At the time he said he could," writes Scott.
Scott says that the soldier later "had time to clear his head" and realize the truth, recanting his vow to kill his own countrymen if ordered to do so.

The issue of whether U.S. troops would be prepared to round-up, disarm and if necessary shoot Americans who disobeyed orders during a state of martial law is a question that military chiefs have been attempting to answer for at least 15 years.

Its known origins can be traced back to an October 1994 Marine questionnaire out of the Twentynine Palms Marine Base in California. Recruits were asked 46 questions, including whether they would kill U.S. citizens who refused to surrender their firearms.

Documentary film maker Alex Jones brought to light similar training programs that were taking place across the country in the late 90's which revolved around U.S. Marines being trained to arrest American citizens and take them to internment camps.

During one such program in Oakland California, dubbed "Operation Urban Warrior," Marines refused to answer if they would target American citizens for gun confiscation if ordered to do so.



During hurricane Katrina, National Guard units were ordered to confiscate guns belonging to New Orleans residents.

As we first exposed in May 2006, Clergy Response Teams are being trained by the federal government and FEMA to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.

Pastors and other religious representatives are being taught to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

Many scoffed at our original story, which was based on the testimony of a whistleblower who was asked to participate in the program. Claims that the story was a conspiracy theory soon evaporated when a mainstream KSLA news report confirmed the existence of the program.



The experiences of U.S. troops in the worst areas of Iraq, where soldiers are ordered to go door to door and arrest all men of military age as well as confiscate their weapons, is a mere portend of what is being planned for America if these training programs ever come to fruition.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10180845 - 04/16/09 09:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Is the military preparing for some sort of event that will require martial law to be implemented on US citizens? If not, then why are they training their soldiers to be ready for such an event?


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Poid]
    #10180899 - 04/16/09 09:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

There are more articles Check these out all involving more plans and preparation from the last 2 years.

http://matadorpulse.com/facilitating-martial-law-us-armys-new-dwell-time-misson-set-to-begin-in-october/

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062

http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/02/11/inside-source-reveals-fema-dhs-prepairing-for-mass-graves-and-martial-law-near-chicago/


Basically after they collapse the economy and place all the money into a few hands. People will be pleading for help, and they will implement martial law. This has been planned and is openly talked about. It will not be just the US it will be other country's especially the UK.


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: DontPlay] * 1
    #10182151 - 04/17/09 12:35 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

When do you think this will happen?


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Poid]
    #10183903 - 04/17/09 10:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, suuure.


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Lancaster]
    #10184176 - 04/17/09 11:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

When this all goes down, the people left wondering " Why didn't I see this coming" well the answer will be your to iggnorant to listen or find out for yourself.


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: DontPlay]
    #10187324 - 04/17/09 09:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

^^^^^ EXACTLY ^^^^^

During Bushes term he has rounded up 1 MILLION American troops to train specifically for 'urban' door to door searches! This is a fact. They have been training in the middle east for like the past 4-6 years (or something like that). Last October they were stationed in the US for their new duties. What duties you might ask? To be called upon to aid local law enforcement when/if us civilians rally or protest. They have absolutely NO PROBLEM with unconstitutionally kicking in your door, searching, seizing, and arresting you under a direct order.

Haven't you guys read the Patriot Act?! We the people are all considered possible terrorists and 'unlawful combatants'. Now Mushlim Hussein Fagbama wants to make a FEDERAL LAW which states that all of us MUST serve 3 months of basic training. YES basic military-type training. Fagbama wants 1 MILLION civilian troops trained like the military and funded like the military in order to police our own streets!

This is not B.S. its plain fact Fagbama actually said it. WAY too many people think that Fagbama can do no wrong. The fact is that our troops and our local law enforcement have received this type of questioning for decades! Our local law enforcement has reportedly answered YES (that they would conduct unconstitunal door to door searches and seizures if ordered to) more often than our own military guys & gals. NOW our own military has been answering YES to that very question because of the BS and 100% fictitious “terrorist threat” propaganda that we have all been fed over the past several years.

All I can say is … KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. Read and learn the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights. Sounds gay right? Well how in the hell are you going to know when your rights are being violated if you don’t even know what they are???

I know a Navy Seal that was called upon after Hurricane Katrina. He among many were asked to ride in a helicopter searching for people needing aid. As they were flying around they were actually being shot at! The locals in New Orleans were actually shooting at his helicopter! He couldn’t understand it … it just didn’t make sense to him. The fact is that he didn’t know what the fuck was actually going on down there. That so called maniac with the rifle was just defending himself! They were being unconstitutionally disarmed! No one could enter the area … not even the corrupt media.

My own brother is in the Navy. Ya wanna know what his job is? His job is to issue ASVAP tests to the foreigners! Yes foreigners. Did you know that the United States is recruiting foreigners into the military? Well they sure as shit are. If they can pass the ASVAP test then they are recruited immediately! Now … how do you think those guys would answer that questionnaire? 99% say yes … what the hell do they care. Will they bite the hand that feeds them?

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: NineInchNails]
    #10187344 - 04/17/09 09:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

the cant constitutionally do any of this.  not even the training.  dont believe everything you read.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: roby000]
    #10187372 - 04/17/09 09:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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the cant constitutionally do any of this.  not even the training.  dont believe everything you read.




HAHAHAHAHAHAA, since when has the constitution stopped anyone?

Warrantless Wiretapping is completely legal, and infringes on our right to privacy granted by the constitution, this was granted with law, and thats just 1 of VERY MANY examples where law (and many other things that are not law that go down) and the constitution do not line up...

Not saying i buy into this directly either, but will not just dismiss it immediately either, as that is just as 'crazy' as all the conspiracy theorists are said to be.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: supra]
    #10187542 - 04/17/09 10:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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  and infringes on our right to privacy granted by the constitution





Where in the constitution does it say we have a right to privacy?


I must have missed that part.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10187771 - 04/17/09 11:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Search and seizure includes wire taps or any recordings not to your knowledge.

The Patriot Act dismisses all Constitutional rights.

By the way ... that court case took place as damage control ... for show ... for the sheep that would actually believe that it was a mistake and that our government was sorry. You don't fuck around with things like that. Heads should have rolled and if ANY of those Gestapo troops  were killed during those raids ... they all deserved it.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10187908 - 04/18/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Take the tinfoil hats off once inawhile guys!  Throughout all of human history, theres been somebody with their finger on the button/trigger/sword/arrow.  Its nothing new.

And theres always going to be someone trying to control you and take your money....    the alternatives ofcourse are live in solitude or suicide..  so figure it out.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: DontPlay]
    #10188059 - 04/18/09 02:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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When this all goes down, the people left wondering " Why didn't I see this coming" well the answer will be your to iggnorant to listen or find out for yourself.





well thats never gonna happen


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #10188314 - 04/18/09 05:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

they can confiscate guns but they cant confiscate fire or improvised explosive devices

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: roby000]
    #10188528 - 04/18/09 07:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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the cant constitutionally do any of this.  not even the training.  dont believe everything you read.




Your blind to the truth my son. Bush suspended posse comitatus in the patriot act. US and Foreign troop's have been practicing urban warfare and population control in the US on US streets for the last few years.

I have actually SEEN this happen in Texas. NOT at a training facility but in actualy neighborhoods. The military has been surveying active military when they come back from Iraq asking them if they are willing to shoot Americans in a time of national emergency as well. There is so much more going on then this that you probably would hurt your little head thinking about it. So get YOUR fact's straight before you put your two cents in.


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: DontPlay]
    #10188536 - 04/18/09 07:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Conpiracy theorist is a term the government made up to discredit people trying to uncover the real truth.

Media lies to your face and has for ages. You believe only what your told like little brainwashed children.

I understand that during history there has always been someone trying to rule the world. (That's what's going on not just one country this time)

The Elite want to rule the world and Us...I don't wish to be anyones slave.

It doesn't hurt to do your own homework, open your eyes and be open minded. I know nothing anyone can say will change some of your minds. Not the point, just trying to reveal some infomation that you should keep in mind and watch for. They do not hide there plans anymore, they openly talk about the new world order. All these peace and economic talks Obama has been doing..There actually moving towards it now..not just talking about it. This is bad folks but to much to discuss on why.

Its already happening so there isn't much time left. During Obama's administration, the economy will collapse, and globalization will take place. Just wait for it and itll be to late.


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    #10188549 - 04/18/09 07:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: roby000]
    #10188566 - 04/18/09 08:05 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Ive yet to see ANY facts involved with anything youve said. I'm not going to argue with you but FACT is your wrong. Plain and Simple End of Story.

Why do I get the feeling your law enforcement or military. 


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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: DontPlay]
    #10188844 - 04/18/09 09:45 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That guy (roby000) just doesn't know what he's talking about ... actually he's not talkin about anything. Just the type of apethy that the powers that be RELY ON.

They have eliminated Posse Comitatus and Habeas Corpus. Posse Comitatus and Habeus Corpus was the ONLY thing keeping our military and our Federal government from a dictatorship. Posse Comitatus kept our government from militarizing the police. It kept our troops from policing our land.




Some people just aren't interested in knowing their rights and only care about the ball game. Some just think that they are untouchable. That's your decision. Just don't say that others are crazy or therorists when you don't know what you are talking about. Our Constitution was written for a reason. It was written that way FOR A REASON. Eliminating ANY PART of it for ANY REASON is unjustified and is treasonous.

Thinking or actually saying "I don't believe our Constitution isn't being torn apart" is naïve and ignorant if you haven’t looked into it yourself. After looking into it … you would be a complete MORON to say “they cant constitutionally do any of this.  not even the training.  don’t believe everything you read. “ and then say “my facts are pretty straight”.

You are WRONG. I wish you were RIGHT!

Just look it up. Don't take my word for it.

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Re: U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens [Re: Poid]
    #10188865 - 04/18/09 09:49 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Is the military preparing for some sort of event that will require martial law to be implemented on US citizens? If not, then why are they training their soldiers to be ready for such an event?




It's a long-standing policy. I was in the Army in the 80's, and we trained for this.

You might, for example, have a town that has been infected with a bio-warfare agent and must be quarantined for the good of the nation.

(There was a movie like that- Outbreak).


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