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LSDreamer
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180281 - 04/16/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's definitely mental
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DNBplus
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
#10180354 - 04/16/09 08:08 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL ok say what you want but it is out of my control.Nothing sets it off.Its not like I have something bad,or scary happen.And I try to calm myself down and I can,for about 10 seconds.Its like when I was tripping last Fri I did ever thing I know to do to prevent the attack.I turned off the tv did some breathing exercises and it seemed like when ever I would talk myself back down and get back into(fun) trip mode the shit comes back.Let me also mention that I have problems with anxiety attacks sober some times.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180367 - 04/16/09 08:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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You say nothing sets it off, but you clearly name a trigger. Worrying about muscle tension. Not being able to control it is kind of a staple of anxiety attacks, as I'm sure you know.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180374 - 04/16/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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any advice would be gladly appreciated.I will be honest with you guys to me it seems like a chemical imbalance but I dont know much about that
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DNBplus
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180416 - 04/16/09 08:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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??? did I say I was worried about it,if so I do not recall,I meant that(and I think I said)that I notice the muscle tension and wonder why not worry about it.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180452 - 04/16/09 08:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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The issue is that many, many psychedelic drugs send massive amounts of energy coursing through your system. This makes your leg jitter, and your muscles twitch, etc. Unfortunately for you, you relate this to an "anxiety attack". Thing is, whether anxiety attacks are a real syndrome or not is up for debate, but what's happening to you is more properly described as a run-away thought loop. You're taking the effects of a drug and turning it into a problem in your mind instead of just accepting it. If you were on speed you'd have the same problem but you probably wouldn't let it freak you out because you're on speed and you know you're supposed to have energy. So next time, just understand that that's what happens when you take acid. You get spastic.
What exactly do you think a "chemical imbalance" is anyways, and what about your situation resembles that model? Compare what the theory of a chemical imbalance actually is, compare it to the fact that you're on LSD, and then add to that the fact that chemical imbalances aren't proven to be real.
That's why in anti-depressant commercials they say "Scientists think this happens because of a chemical imbalance in your brain" along with their cute animation of Happy Feelings being bounced off of your synapses
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180475 - 04/16/09 08:20 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here is another way to put it.After I talked myself time down(for the 5th time)I was walking down the hallway of my house with NOTHING on my mind and in comes another wave of attacks.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180512 - 04/16/09 08:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thought patterns tend to work cyclically on trips. You were tripping. There's no way you had "nothing on your mind".
You're thinking yourself into it dude. You can't think yourself out of it. Just accept that it's nothing.
There's literally no reason you should be freaking out. If you were sober you wouldn't be, right? There's nothing in LSD that's just gonna up and make you have a panic attack out of nowhere for no reason at all. That's insane. You're just taking queues from your physical body's reaction to a drug as "something wrong" and letting it spin out of control with out dissecting it logically.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDXM]
#10180528 - 04/16/09 08:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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my friend I wish it was that easy for me I have been tripping for 10 years and have been way,way more fucked up and had no problems.Last Friday I was in complete control of ever thing besides the anxiety.And on the speed issue.LOL I freak out way more on speed,I cannot do meth it turns me into a temp paranoid schizophrenic(j/k kid of). And by the way I would also like to say thanks to you and dreamer for show some interest and giving some advice.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180575 - 04/16/09 08:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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just go with it and hope for the best
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDXM]
#10180584 - 04/16/09 08:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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OK, after I calmed down(one of the many times)I realized that I had experienced ego death and all that was on my mind was re building myself and I even was thinking about watching waking life(dont know if you have seen it or not but it is very chill)and while I am thinking about that a fucking panic attack starts.I remember standing in the bathroom looking at myself and telling myself that "This is what I wanted.this is what I asked for"you know excepting what was going on but it would not work for long.Sorry for going off on this shit but it really bothers me.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180594 - 04/16/09 08:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Heroin helps
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DNBplus
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: Trev86]
#10180599 - 04/16/09 08:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats how I look at it ever time.I even meditated for 30min befor my last trip and still wigged.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180603 - 04/16/09 08:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm sorry, but every time you say "except" instead of "accept", it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. Grammar Nazi is in the house.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: mockingbird]
#10180641 - 04/16/09 08:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOLOL I think I will pass.Hell I dont know why I should pass it took 60mg of oxy to calm my body down last Fri and after that I was having a blast.But I am trying to leave pharmys alone unless absolutely necessary.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180661 - 04/16/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just to clarify when I say speed I mean amphetamines not METHamphetamines. I pretty much never mention meth because I wouldn't fuck with it
Anyways that's weird man, I mean I dunno what to tell you; I still think it's all in your head but I don't know what kind of advice to give you to help you think your way out of it
sorry
I can say that, although I don't know much about the subject and probably largely BECAUSE I don't, I wouldn't just go taking anti-psychotics because my trip is going awry.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDreamer]
#10180674 - 04/16/09 08:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL sorry man I'm not that picky with my grammar and not worried at all about other peoples I worry more about myself. Man I dont think I would ever reffer to myself as any kind of Nazi that's pretty pathetic
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LSDreamer
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180680 - 04/16/09 08:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, come on. Grammar Nazi is a common term.
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DNBplus
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: LSDXM]
#10180703 - 04/16/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have always refused to take anti psychotics but Im at a point were I need something to stop the random attacks while tripping because I am not ready to stop.I think I just need to keep some xanax on hand because the past 2 times I wigged out(remember it has only happened 4out of 100+)it was because of panic/anxiety attacks.
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Re: How To Stop a Bad Trip:benzodiazepine V.S. anti psychotic [Re: DNBplus]
#10180715 - 04/16/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Meh. Nothing inherently wrong with anti-psychotics, really. They do their job, more or less.
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