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 ethnoguy
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 Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really?  [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10182292 - 04/17/09 01:07 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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You'll never get a straight answer. Sometime I get really ill. Especially with that one vendor......
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: ethnoguy]
#10182403 - 04/17/09 01:40 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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you may as well toss a coin with those guys, see what you get 
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10183172 - 04/17/09 07:03 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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So is the scopulicolus inactive as far as the good stuff is concerned?
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10183179 - 04/17/09 07:08 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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so far as i am aware, scops are active.
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10183306 - 04/17/09 08:13 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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Interesting.
I'm going to research average alkaloid levels for cacti of the Americas, obviously the king is Peyote.
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10183327 - 04/17/09 08:19 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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that would be a good starting point considering that there is no such thing as cacti not of the americas 
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ethnoguy
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10183535 - 04/17/09 09:24 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: ethnoguy]
#10183553 - 04/17/09 09:32 AM (15 years, 3 days ago) |
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There aren't cacti in Australia, Asia, or Africa?!?!
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: mushroomhunter10]
#10183720 - 04/17/09 10:11 AM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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yes they are all over the world but only due to the influence of man, naturally they only occur in the americas.
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10183780 - 04/17/09 10:24 AM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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In africa there are Euphorbia, but they are not cacti as they lack aeroles. Everything else, as doc said, has been introduced by man
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Cactusdan]
#10184139 - 04/17/09 11:46 AM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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Man...
Learn something new every day.
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: ethnoguy]
#10184261 - 04/17/09 12:08 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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Honestly I'm beginning to believe that most of the San Pedro references actually meant bridgesii. I have yet to come across a decent Pachanoi species for potency. My bridgesii will kick anyone's ass, you don't need much of it either.
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: ethnoguy]
#10186688 - 04/17/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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The shamans also considered the number of spines they had to be important to, like 6-8 was mediocre,9-10 was powerful, 11-13 would bring you to hell
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10186736 - 04/17/09 07:48 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Dr. uarewotueat said:
yes they are all over the world but only due to the influence of man, naturally they only occur in the americas.
i was doing a little research on wiki and found this statement at the end of the succulents page "Virtually all cacti are succulents, but many succulents are not cacti"
I think many succulents can be found through out the world in desert climates. Hoodia looks really similar to cacti but its considered a succulent too.
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#10186927 - 04/17/09 08:25 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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that statement is true, but confusing to n00bs lol.
i prefer to think of cacti as cacti and succulents as succulents, it's easier on the brain that way
cacti are defined by the presence of aeroles, which succulent plants do not have.
i know that's not strictly true but ya know what i mean 
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Re: "The Cactus of the Four Winds" Which species is it really? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
#10186946 - 04/17/09 08:28 PM (15 years, 2 days ago) |
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That is a true statement, all cacti are succulents; the thing to remember is North and South America are the only places where Cacti can be found. I never found it really confusing. Only when you run into succulents that don't have leaves and look a bit more globular.
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