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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: Bugzy]
    #10150132 - 04/12/09 12:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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The cost of this technology would proly be reserved for more serious crimes (murder an such). Sure they can find out what drugs you've done, and if you've ever fired a gun, but I highly doubt anything in our daily lives will be affected by this. And as far as employment screens and po testing, pointless. There is no way, at this point in time anyways, that can tell when you used  anything at an exact time. Scare tactics. Unless you plan on being the president or shooting a high priority target, you have nothing to worry about. They cant even get fingerprinting right half the time in the first place, speaking from experience. Everytime I go to jail they get shit fucked up lol. All in all, just more bogus shit for our taxes to pay for- overpriced technology.






These are cheap procedures and reagents.

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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: marshalldylan1]
    #10150818 - 04/12/09 06:34 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I think the ability to apply this to forensics is great. It's impossible these days to commit a murder and not leave something behind that traces you to the crime scene. And now this makes it even harder for a murderer to get away.

It just sucks that something that could help the forensics field so much will also be used to test people for what drugs they have done.

Sigh.




yea its almost impossible to shoot somebody in the street with a gun and not get away :rolleyes: most inner city murders go unsolved if theirs no suspect theirs no case.

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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: pasucks]
    #10151070 - 04/12/09 09:07 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If you're that worried about being fingerprinted, then get yourself some hydrochloric acid and burn those babies off!


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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: johnm214]
    #10151218 - 04/12/09 10:06 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Long range rifles and a hack saw does the trick. No weapon-No conviction. They make the mistake of criminals and such being able to learn and manipulate procedures. Their "new" tekniques are like computers, once you buy one, its shit and outdated next month.

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These are cheap procedures and reagents.




I was thinkin that this was more along the lines of of it being introduced as a replacement for the whole system. Which requires mods to local offices and such. And if anyones takin a look around latley, Im sure there are more important things that need attention like the economy, and keeping enough officers and such too patrol/investigate. Around here, we're layin cops and city officals like factory workers.

No big deal, just thrown my 2cents out there , interesting info none the less.

Remember- Long range rifles and dissassemble for sale after words, guns are like cars, they alll need parts sometime


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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: Bugzy]
    #10151590 - 04/12/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

this is kinda stupid, just by touching money you would get shit on your fingers.


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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: Groomies]
    #10152751 - 04/12/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

^ thats a good point.


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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: deCypher]
    #10153077 - 04/12/09 04:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Is it more of a myth that you can't get away with a murder or a reality?



Definite myth.




Speaking from experience?  :rofl:



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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: spud303]
    #10156681 - 04/13/09 08:16 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

What? you guise haven't burned yours off with acid yet?


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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: DrugsRbadMkay]
    #10157067 - 04/13/09 10:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Remember a recent story, in which reagents gave false positives, as soon as they were exposed to air.

Smells like a racket.

There have been too many false positives, even when quantities weren't so minuscule.

I don't believe that procedures themselves are usually questioned on issues like these.

Especially when victimless crimes are concerned, I will always be suspicious that jurors are responding to perceived moral authority, rather than legitimate, accurate, observational science.

This is not to mention whether any tangible damages resulted from "tainted" fingerprints, such that a suspect could be held accountable for direct compensation.

In other words, if the contents of my fingerprints don't hurt anyone, they are none of your business.

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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: SmokenBabyJesus]
    #10157370 - 04/13/09 11:34 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

How long would drugs remain detectable, different time frames for different drugs I would assume. Hair tests can detect any drug used while the hair was growing, piss tests can detect only for certain length of time, mouth swabs for even less time.

Would the times be closer to piss test times or hair test times?

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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: fltdriver82]
    #10157456 - 04/13/09 11:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

probably urine test but it would very immensly depending upon the drug, the activity of the person, and the detection limit.

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Re: Fingerprints Can Reveal Drug Use, Medical History. [Re: SmokenBabyJesus]
    #10157482 - 04/13/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This is just another piece of technology that is going to be used to pry into our private and personal lives.

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