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Obama Bows to Saudi King
#10135703 - 04/09/09 11:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is humiliating and I'm quite pissed about it. Americans shouldn't be bowing to anyone, let alone this piece of shit.
Fuck you Obama.
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I kinda agree.
Is that just the way they show respect in that country though?
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: MOTH]
#10135719 - 04/09/09 11:28 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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No... I understand etiquette and being cordial, but this is inappropriate... especially considering he refused to bow to the queen of England.
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getting riled up over that?
Tensions ARE high...
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: druqs]
#10135727 - 04/09/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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He does dip pretty low, maybe he dropped something on the floor
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: milkman]
#10135747 - 04/09/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn him for cultural sensitivity.
Doesn't he realize there is only one way to do things? And that way, is the AMERICAN WAY.
We should go to war with anyone who doesn't look, think or act like us.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Kickle]
#10135749 - 04/09/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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getting riled up over that?
Tensions ARE high...
I wouldn't really say riled up, but when The President of the United States, a major representative of us as a people, bows to a misogynistic, sinister, arrogant piece of shit like that, we pretty much ALL kissed that guys' ass... if you don't get at least a little pissed about that, then sir, I don't believe you have blood running through your veins.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: badchad]
#10135755 - 04/09/09 11:34 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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badchad said: Damn him for cultural sensitivity.
Doesn't he realize there is only one way to do things? And that way, is the AMERICAN WAY.
We should go to war with anyone who doesn't look, think or act like us.
Cultural sensitivity? Come on man, don't be a PC goon, He refused to bow to the Queen of England... what about that Cultural sensitivity?
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when i met the queen we 'high fived'
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I guess that means you know Obama's reasoning, or at least are speculating, and you find it unworthy.
I'm not going to take that leap of speculation, because that video clip tells me jack shit.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Kickle]
#10135813 - 04/09/09 11:44 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmm, well, to me it looks like a bow. Obama supporters might, as well as the official white house statement included, deem it as just 'a low handshake'... I imagine if Bush (who I didn't like either, just making a point) were to slightly bend over while shaking the hand of Saddam, it would be blown up and used by every lefty, democrat and liberal in the world against him and would likely be deemed as "a bow". When a republican does something inappropriate, the media blows it out of proportion and the leftists go haywire... when Obama does it, "oh, that's speculation, I can't tell he's bowing in THAT video"
Obama bowed, don't be foolish.
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I never denied he bowed. The speculation I'm referring to is the WHY he bowed.
For all I know, this, in your own words, "arrogant" saudi king, would be unreceptive to ideas unless some form of respect was shown.
Or Obama could be sucking dick for oil.
I sure as hell don't know, and that video doesn't tell me a damn thing.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Kickle]
#10135917 - 04/09/09 12:01 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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The world shouldn't bow down to America and be policed by America.
Who the fuck cares if he bowed to a Saudi Prince? It's just a show of good faith and probably has something to do with Oil.
Americans shouldn't be bowing to anyone? That's works both ways
America won't be a super power forever and one day America might be bowing down to the Goddamn Chinese.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: hpi]
#10135949 - 04/09/09 12:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I care if he bowed to a Saudi King, it shows submission not cordial respect (A handshake would've been acceptable) and whether you like America or not, it is America's duty to maintain a strong image on the geopolitical scale because we are an essential unit in the function of most of the world. It's just how it is bro. You can bury your head in a philosophical sand pit and ignore it, but it doesn't make it untrue.
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Americas got a REAL strong image being what, 11 trillion in debt?
But you know what the reality is? No one gives a flying fuck what you think about that bow to the prince cause you're just a nobody in the political world.
It's just how it is, BRO.
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How do you know a handshake would have sufficed? This goes back to the speculation I referred to.
Also, what makes you believe that image is all there is to the political game and that image can not be sacrificed to gain in other areas?
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: hpi]
#10135985 - 04/09/09 12:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're awfully angry for a Canadian, haha.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Kickle]
#10136010 - 04/09/09 12:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kickle said: How do you know a handshake would have sufficed? This goes back to the speculation I referred to.
Also, what makes you believe that image is all there is to the political game and that image can not be sacrificed to gain in other areas?
I'd be highly surprised that all of the sudden a handshake with the Saudi officials wouldn't be acceptable. With the amount of business we do with Saudi Arabia, I wouldn't be surprised if walking in and saying "Wut up G?" and bumping elbows wouldn't be acceptable.
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By the same logic, what reason would Obama have to bow?
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Kickle]
#10136060 - 04/09/09 12:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know what his reason was. It could've been done out of being nervous and trying to 'make good' just as well as it could possibly have something to do with his Muslim roots.... who knows... the point is, he did it and it wasn't appropriate. If it were appropriate, the White house wouldn't have said "it wasn't a Bow".
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Well, while I have an urge to continue discussing this with you, I'm going to have to switch gears
You make an interesting statement about the government. A lot of the PR is used to cover up inappropriate actions. I doubt that is always true, but it certainly is prevalent to a point of absurdity. Although I'm not sure the alternative, propaganda, is any better.
I don't agree with you that this white house release was to cover up inappropriate behavior rather than trying to reap the most political gain, but since neither of us knows the 'why' and never will, we'll just have to remain on opposite ends.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Kickle]
#10136144 - 04/09/09 12:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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this thread is seriusy mostrously retarted
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: notapillow]
#10136208 - 04/09/09 12:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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notapillow said: this thread is seriusy mostrously retarted
Bows are used in a LOT of cultures as a general greeting and show of respect.
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Quote:
circularvortex said:
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Bows are used in a LOT of cultures as a general greeting and show of respect.
QFT.
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mozartvicious said: This is humiliating and I'm quite pissed about it. Americans shouldn't be bowing to anyone, let alone this piece of shit.
Fuck you Obama.
LOL, are you serious???
Your the one humiliating America by acting so stupid. To suggest that American's are so great that they can even show a sign of respect too anyone is childish and ignorant.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: sandman_130]
#10136358 - 04/09/09 01:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Showing respect is one thing, bowing to a monarch is quite different and our president should never do it to any monarch.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: badchad]
#11467939 - 11/16/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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badchad said: Damn him for cultural sensitivity.
Doesn't he realize there is only one way to do things? And that way, is the AMERICAN WAY.
We should go to war with anyone who doesn't look, think or act like us.
Americans are stupid, ethnocentric, insecure, and emotionally immature. That's the only explanation one would get angry over a video like this. No wonder Bush reigned for 8 years.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Neuron]
#11467950 - 11/16/09 03:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm an American, and i find this as sadly funny as most of the other people i know do.
just thought i'd put that out there.
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Obama is a pussy, that's why.
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mozartvicious said: No... I understand etiquette and being cordial, but this is inappropriate... especially considering he refused to bow to the queen of England.
odd i don't remember your angry posts when bush did this.
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I'm embarrassed that my people actually give a shit about this.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: Envix]
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: gzuf]
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This guy is not the Emperor of Japan, he rapes his country and only our military base protects the fucker.
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Re: Obama Bows to Saudi King [Re: doom876]
#11468166 - 11/16/09 04:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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cry me a fuckin river...
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