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highdroponics
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Echinopsis huanucoensis
#10128600 - 04/08/09 08:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I been looking into this particular cactus, it looks almost exactly like Pedro, I'm wondering how many identifications on this forum were wrong.
http://cactiguide.com/graphics/t_huanucoensis_600.jpg
There's a pic.
It seems the ribs are thicker and the spines are less noticeable, other than that I see no difference. What have you all got to say about this?
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I saw that yesterday and thought the same!!!!
It said on their it is uncommon in collections though.
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some say that this plant is possibly one of the parents of the backberg "pachanot" clone.
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highdroponics said:What have you all got to say about this?
Uh, I have to get one?
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Re: Echinopsis huanucoensis [Re: ethnoguy]
#10128640 - 04/08/09 08:53 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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ethnoguy said:
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highdroponics said:What have you all got to say about this?
Uh, I have to get one?
EG
Well, of course that, myself as well. I was just wondering if people had heard about this particular species before.
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You gotta love the genus. Even with all the mutts out there, they are nice to collect.
EG
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Mankey

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Wow! I've never even seen those before. If you look at the label at the base of the plant it looks like the first word (assuming its the genus) says something other than echinopsis. I wonder if its a synonym for some other cactus.
I must have one.
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Re: Echinopsis huanucoensis [Re: Mankey]
#10128698 - 04/08/09 09:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mankey said: Wow! I've never even seen those before. If you look at the label at the base of the plant it looks like the first word (assuming its the genus) says something other than echinopsis. I wonder if its a synonym for some other cactus.
I must have one.
It looks like it starts with a P or T maybe
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TheManWithTheHat
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I'm seeing sites saying it was formerly Trichocereus
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Pachanoi is such a muddied species.
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highdroponics
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TheManWithTheHat said: I'm seeing sites saying it was formerly Trichocereus
Trichocereus = Echinopsis.
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Here are some more pictures


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Re: Echinopsis huanucoensis [Re: Cactusdan]
#10131213 - 04/08/09 04:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Interesting species, its so similar yet has some subtle differences from the backbergs.
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Re: Echinopsis huanucoensis [Re: felixhigh]
#10131334 - 04/08/09 04:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's gotta be a backberg parent.
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Mankey

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highdroponics said:
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TheManWithTheHat said: I'm seeing sites saying it was formerly Trichocereus
Trichocereus = Echinopsis.
Yes, but not all Echinopsis were Trichocereus. The question then is did it have the same species name while it was in the previous family.
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Re: Echinopsis huanucoensis [Re: Mankey]
#10131513 - 04/08/09 04:45 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, good question, what was its name in the Trichs family?
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Re: Echinopsis huanucoensis [Re: felixhigh]
#10131543 - 04/08/09 04:48 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=14046
I believe it's Trichocereus huanucoensis
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it looks noticeably diffrent than a pachanoi... but I cant even begin to articulate how....
luckily, thats what we have trout and smith for.
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the differences from what i can tell:
more bulbous notch base smaller areola with fewer spines thicker, more irregular growth
looks alot like the 'san pedros' i grow. im not sure if they are just mutts or what..
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felixhigh
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I also noticed it also grows in a 'spherical' bush form, the pedros grow more like towers of a castle.
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highdroponics said:
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TheManWithTheHat said: I'm seeing sites saying it was formerly Trichocereus
Trichocereus = Echinopsis.
I know, but there were originally Echinopsis cacti separate from the Trichocereus, then they merged That's why I thought the fact that it was a Trichocereus was relevant
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