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Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? 1
#10123721 - 04/07/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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What do you all think of Salvador Dali? Was his art all random? I find him interesting and I think the surreal movement has created more open minded film making!
Surrealism is pretty funny when you think about it, but it seems to fit with the absurdity of life- people take themselves way too seriously sometimes!!
"I don't do drugs, I am drugs"- Salvador Dali
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: skatealex2]
#10123729 - 04/07/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow early 1900s i always thought he was from like the 1600s for some reason
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: skatealex2]
#10123730 - 04/07/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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He was most definitely a tripper.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: The_Ghost]
#10123756 - 04/07/09 02:51 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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He just croaked back in the 90s ,I have several of his signed lithographs.....the magic unicorn,the angel or sum shit and the one that looks like a bunch of blocks ,but if you stand way back from it ,it is abe lincon.
Paid about 3 thousand a piece for them back in the 80s before he croaked ,they are worth alot more now.
Some of his paintings are pretty incredible.I dont ever want to get rid of them.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: unretarded]
#10123782 - 04/07/09 02:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: unretarded]
#10123785 - 04/07/09 02:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I want them!
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: echoesSG]
#10123794 - 04/07/09 02:59 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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echoesSG said: he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
Some of the most creative people I know have never touched drugs. Then again in my own head drugs serve as a catalyst.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Cowgold]
#10123935 - 04/07/09 03:24 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cowgold said: I want them!
Holy shit ,I just went and looked online ......there might be a new zo6 vette in my future.
The ones I have are personally signed and numbered in pencil ,those are the most exspensive ones ..other than the originals. ..one is 127 of 300 ,the others are deep in storage ,but they are hand signed and numbered too,limited editions of 300. These things must have went WAY up in value when he died. I just ran across the authenticity verifications the other day is the only reason I even remebered them now.
Some of his art looks like a DMT trip on canvas.He was definatly out there.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Rocker232] 1
#10123989 - 04/07/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't have to take drugs to be creative. In fact, I don't think drugs make you anymore creative than you would otherwise be. I do believe they can awake some of the latent creativity you already possess.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
#10124003 - 04/07/09 03:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mandrake said: You don't have to take drugs to be creative. In fact, I don't think drugs make you anymore creative than you would otherwise be. I do believe they can awake some of the latent creativity you already possess.
I moreso think that they all just awaken the unconscious a little more, as the self is put more on the back burner. I love spinning pictures in my mind, but they never seem to have that "merge/kaleidoscope" quality sober.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: echoesSG]
#10124024 - 04/07/09 03:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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echoesSG said: he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
He also said he never drank water.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10124026 - 04/07/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: unretarded]
#10124100 - 04/07/09 03:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: skatealex2]
#10124102 - 04/07/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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while his art was amazing, his politics left a lot to be desired. essentially, he supported Franco because he thought he was more stylish than other political leaders in Spain.
i'm sorry, but you can't separate art and life like that.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Krishna]
#10124226 - 04/07/09 04:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: joehinkle]
#10124286 - 04/07/09 04:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i love his art, it's intense to look at when tripping
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Krishna]
#10125034 - 04/07/09 06:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Krishna said: while his art was amazing, his politics left a lot to be desired. essentially, he supported Franco because he thought he was more stylish than other political leaders in Spain.
i'm sorry, but you can't separate art and life like that.
I was scrolling down, about to say exactly this, but you said it for me.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Pigasus]
#10125070 - 04/07/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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skatealex2 - I keep running into your posts today! good stuff.
As for this dude, HA! and Van Gogh WASN'T an absinthe addict.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MacklinReed]
#10125079 - 04/07/09 06:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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MacklinReed said: skatealex2 - I keep running into your posts today! good stuff.
As for this dude, HA! and Van Gogh WASN'T an absinthe addict.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: skatealex2]
#10125089 - 04/07/09 06:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love the Persistence of Memory and Metamorphosis of Narcsomething
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: skatealex2]
#10125160 - 04/07/09 06:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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skatealex2 said:
"I don't do drugs, I am drugs"- Salvador Dali
this is funny because as i was reading the beginning of your OP i was thinking about posting this quote... but you beat me to it! Anyways, i went to an exhibit of his last summer. I had smoked before with a friend (of course i had to!!) and when i was lookin at all of his work that was there, there seemed to be this amazing subtle reoccurring theme in all his photos. i can't really explain it too well, but when i was there it all just made sense.
it was the best exhibit i've been to so far.. though i am going to an andy warhol exhibit this weekend, should be fun
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Treefingerz]
#10125224 - 04/07/09 06:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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the track treefingers is awesome by the way
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Rocker232]
#10125340 - 04/07/09 06:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rocker232 said:
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echoesSG said: he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
Some of the most creative people I know have never touched drugs. Then again in my own head drugs serve as a catalyst.
Frank Zappa never did drugs.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10125356 - 04/07/09 06:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said:
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Rocker232 said:
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echoesSG said: he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
Some of the most creative people I know have never touched drugs. Then again in my own head drugs serve as a catalyst.
Frank Zappa never did drugs.
well he said he tried weed and didn't like it.
and then he said the rest of the band looked down on him for not doing acid.
read this in his autobiography.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Pigasus]
#10125372 - 04/07/09 06:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah, close enough. He was not the acidhead people often assumed him to be though.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10125412 - 04/07/09 06:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, I was just splitting hairs really.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Pigasus] 1
#10127783 - 04/08/09 01:45 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pigasus said:
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MisterMuscaria said:
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Rocker232 said:
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echoesSG said: he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
Some of the most creative people I know have never touched drugs. Then again in my own head drugs serve as a catalyst.
Frank Zappa never did drugs.
well he said he tried weed and didn't like it.
and then he said the rest of the band looked down on him for not doing acid.
read this in his autobiography.
He was also an arrogant prick.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#10127794 - 04/08/09 01:51 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i hear dali had smoked opium alot. no sources or anything so it might be completely false.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Rocker232]
#10127841 - 04/08/09 02:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Rocker232 said:
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echoesSG said: he said he never did drugs... that's incredibly hard to believe. I'm sure he did psychedelics at some point in his life.
Some of the most creative people I know have never touched drugs. Then again in my own head drugs serve as a catalyst.
yeah some people see what we aim to without them. the greatest thing about these people, is that they have no problem with us wanting to see. and usually help us see, they help with all forms of art.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: igwna]
#10131555 - 04/08/09 04:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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some weeeeird coincidental shit..
I was researching interesting portrait artists today and somehow came to the Dali wikipedia page.
The whole thing with Dali on Franco and all his other politics, it seems like he was always just saying things that weren't necessarily what he believed.
I'll probably be looking into this a bit more.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MacklinReed]
#10131629 - 04/08/09 05:01 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think the real question is:
why does it matter to some of you that he did drugs or not? does the art speak more to you if he was on drugs? if so, why? if not, why?
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: MacklinReed]
#10131679 - 04/08/09 05:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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MacklinReed said: The whole thing with Dali on Franco and all his other politics, it seems like he was always just saying things that weren't necessarily what he believed.
I'll probably be looking into this a bit more.
that's kind of my point, though. Dali was such a surrealist/dadaist/post-structuralist (before there were post-structuralists) that he fucked around with meaning a lot. this is fine and well, and imo an important thing to do to show how difference constructs meaning all around us. however, Franco was a real facist, and a real murderer, and imo necessitated a real response - not what essentially amounted to public support.
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Syle]
#10131905 - 04/08/09 05:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Syle said: i think the real question is:
why does it matter to some of you that he did drugs or not? does the art speak more to you if he was on drugs? if so, why? if not, why?
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Krishna]
#10131957 - 04/08/09 05:51 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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ah, good ideas.
I dont know, I guess there will always be someone who is less serious than ourselves.
Maybe he really didn't find what people thought of his stance on it important.
Maybe it was a crazy publicity stunt!
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Re: Salvador Dali- Was he on the right path? [Re: Syle]
#10133713 - 04/08/09 11:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Syle said: i think the real question is:
why does it matter to some of you that he did drugs or not? does the art speak more to you if he was on drugs? if so, why? if not, why?
It shouldn't matter at all. I think trying to make something artistic just about drugs cheapens it anyway.
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