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A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler
    #10118107 - 04/06/09 05:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just some quick notes from a rabid Bears fan, myself, on the hype and hatred surrounding the Jay Cutler trade with the Broncos.

First.  I pity slightly and laugh freely at the idiot Broncos fans who don't realize what they've lost.  It's pretty galling to see a bunch of people, even those here, blame Jay Cutler for the season they had last year.  How many of those losses was Cutler responsible for and how many were the fault of the pathetic Broncos defense?  I think the ratio greatly favors the defense being the weak link.

But because he asked to be traded everyone has made him the bad guy.

Hey retards, how about blaming your fucking coach?  I know it is probably nice to believe the guy knows what he's doing, but where is the evidence?  Has ANY coach out of Bellicheck's New England system ever been any good?  Ever?

Mangini is on his second job in five years.  Crennel is hugely fat and football retarded.  Weiss took a nice program that he got from Willingham and completely trashed it to the point that his school and their boosters are almost willing to eat tens of millions of dollars just to see him go away.

But McDaniels is suddenly trusted to the point where he alienates his *25-year old PRO BOWL QB* by attempting to trade for a one-year wonder career back-up and is thought to be RIGHT by the vast majority of fans!?  Based on WHAT?

Second.  I know the perception around the league is that the Bears gave up way too much, but this too could not be more wrong.  The parts that the Bears traded that actually matter are the two first-round picks.  The third-rounder and Orton are absolutely meaningless.  But even the first-rounders don't matter, simply because Jerry Angelo is one of the worst draft-day GMs in football.

In his tenure here he has, in the first round, drafted Rashan Salaam, Curtis Enis, Cedric Benson, Cade McNown, Rex Grossman, Walt Harris, David Terrel, and Michael Fucking Haynes.

Care to guess what those guys have in common?  THEY ALL FUCKING SUCK.

If any of them were still playing in the league you couldn't trade them ALL for HALF of Cutler.  And we got him for two future wash-outs?  I can get on board that.

I'm not sure if this trade allows the Bears to make a deep playoff run next year.  They still have a lot of holes.  But there is absolutely no way that his doesn't make the Bears significantly better.

And the Broncos, no matter who they draft this year with that pick, will be worse than last year for it.  No matter how hard the fans try to convince themselves it was a good move, it wasn't.  It was a terribly stupid thing to do.  Kyle Orton or Chris Simms are not as good as Jay Cutler, I'm sorry.  You can try to tell yourself that he wasn't a system quarterback if you want, but when you have a star player as a coach you should be intelligent enough to adapt your system to that player, not trade him and replace him with someone with less than half the skill or talent.



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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10118225 - 04/06/09 05:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Cutler_(American_football)#Statistics

Career QB rating of 87.1? With a high of 88.5 his rookie year??? Touchdown to interception ratio nothing to be too proud of...

Orton sucks yes. But two first round pics and a third? I even like Jay Cutler, but really, he is too expensive. And by that I mean salary wise as well. The bears have forgone the future to try and capture a title this year.

I'm just glad the lions sat out on this deal.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: dill705]
    #10118315 - 04/06/09 05:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The Bears are further under the cap than any other team in the NFL and have been for years.

The money is, literally, inconsequential.  They were not going to spend it on anything else.  It's not like you can take the cap money from last year with you into the next.

As far as the stats go, Cutlers year last year would rank as the best year by a Bears QB *IN HISTORY*.

He is, again literally, the best QB the Bears have ever had.

And you think two draft picks is too much!?


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10118363 - 04/06/09 06:02 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

The Bears are an aging team. I was unaware that the bears have never had a good QB, and that's all that Jay Cutler is, good. Perhaps he gets better, I root for that in fact, I kinda like the guy, but chances are he's still only gonna be an average starting QB. So no I don't think two FIRST ROUND draft pics was an appropriate deal.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: dill705]
    #10118388 - 04/06/09 06:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Again, I think you're wrong.

The Bears will be starting three WRs with less than three years service, a second year running back, two second-year and one rookie offensive linemen, and now a 25-year old pro-bowl quarterback.

That has to be one of the younger offenses in the league.

The defense is bad because they are bad, not because they are old.  It's not like Cutler is 40 and we have a two-year window to win.

He's 25.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10118423 - 04/06/09 06:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

By old, I specifically meant the defense. And I think they do a pretty decent job. But regardless, that's where the future needs work.

I don't think it was a disastrous move, I think it was just a little pricey for what you guys are getting. As you argued, the Bears can afford it, and if it works out, then the management is vindicated.

For the Lions it would have been a horrible faux pas. And since I am a reluctant Lions fan, I'm just glad they didn't jump for this.

In reality though, my favorite team was the Packers until Favre left. Now I'm open for a new fav.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: dill705]
    #10118442 - 04/06/09 06:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I just don't understand that.

You would rather have the Lions draft Matt Stafford than an established pro-bowl QB?

Have you seen the QBs that are drafted in the first round lately?


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10118471 - 04/06/09 06:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I would rather they didn't draft that tool and instead draft a fucking lineman to block for Culpeppers' dumb ass.

It's a damn shame we couldn't get Jake Long last year.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: dill705]
    #10118700 - 04/06/09 06:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I do think Culpepper would be a much better choice than Jackson.

I just don't think he's very good at all.

Jackson that is.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10121767 - 04/07/09 07:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

:omgz: :blah: :yawn:


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #10122201 - 04/07/09 09:56 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I hate you.

We should fight.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10123154 - 04/07/09 12:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

First and foremost, I am a Bears fan trying to like the Broncos too. This is tough, as I have hated just about everything about them since I was young. It's akin to learning to like Duke or The Yankers. The last two pieces of the puzzle that I couldn't stand were that worn out windbag Shanahan and to a much lesser degree JC.

I am happy that it's a new day in Denver, and that McDaniels will have a chance to put his system into place, reload, and give it a shot. If he fails, well, most all coaches in every sport fail if you look at it.

From a Bears fan standpoint, you have a great point Tripper with the horrible drafting done by the Bears for more than 20 years. Well, now you have a whiny prima donna (former) Pro Bowl QB, with a lousy offense, a lousy defense, no draft picks until he's 28, and a front office unwilling to spend money to add the tools that are needed to help Jay out.

So he's the best QB in Bears history? No way. Jim McMahon is the best in history until Jay brings a ring home. And he won't. You're going to be sick when he's constantly putting the ball just a smidge behind or in front of your pathetic receivers, or showing off his "better than Elway's" arm when some touch would have actually led to a completion. That will lead to him whining and screaming, which he has done more than any QB I have ever seen save for Ryan Leaf at WSU (how did that end up?).

The pressure of walking in Elway's shoes were too much. And that's why he brought it up in interviews. The way people view that guy around here is nothing short of demigod status. He'll have a chance to play for his boyhood team, and maybe he'll find a coach and a rhythm that will help his with the piss poor ball he throws. Maybe.

So enjoy Jay. To put it in perspective though, who cares how good he is (and here I would again argue "how good he WAS" as his numbers are going to sink like a rock)  For what the Bears are, and have, and will be, the team was just about as good off with Orton or Grossman.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10123493 - 04/07/09 02:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I just don't understand that.

You would rather have the Lions draft Matt Stafford than an established pro-bowl QB?

Have you seen the QBs that are drafted in the first round lately?




Yeah Matt Ryan was a huge bust.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: jewunit]
    #10124221 - 04/07/09 04:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Of course there are some good ones, doofus.

But it is a crap shoot.

For every Matt Ryan you have three or four Matt Leinarts.

There is no reason to draft a possibly good quarterback when you ALREADY HAVE one that you *know* is good.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10124248 - 04/07/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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So he's the best QB in Bears history? No way. Jim McMahon is the best in history until Jay brings a ring home. And he won't. You're going to be sick when he's constantly putting the ball just a smidge behind or in front of your pathetic receivers, or showing off his "better than Elway's" arm when some touch would have actually led to a completion. That will lead to him whining and screaming, which he has done more than any QB I have ever seen save for Ryan Leaf at WSU (how did that end up?).

The pressure of walking in Elway's shoes were too much. And that's why he brought it up in interviews. The way people view that guy around here is nothing short of demigod status. He'll have a chance to play for his boyhood team, and maybe he'll find a coach and a rhythm that will help his with the piss poor ball he throws. Maybe.

So enjoy Jay. To put it in perspective though, who cares how good he is (and here I would again argue "how good he WAS" as his numbers are going to sink like a rock)  For what the Bears are, and have, and will be, the team was just about as good off with Orton or Grossman.




I could not disagree more with everything you said.

Do you think we're used to seeing good QB play?  If you can think of anything that Cutler does WORSE than Orton (I'm not even going to mention Grossman, that was just fucking stupid) please let me know, because I don't see it.

And saying Cutler would be the best QB ever wasn't me being hyperbolic.  You think *Jim Mcmahon* was better?

Every single Bears player from that era will list you Mcmahon as the reason the Bears didn't win more titles.  In his BEST year, the year they won the Super Bowl, McMahon threw for 2,400 yards with 15 touchdowns and *11* picks.

Cutler last year threw for *4,500* yards.  Four Fucking Thousand!  And *25* touchdowns.

I am absolutely astounded you would say McMahon was better.  He was absolutely worse in every way, including in being a prima-donna crybaby.

Sid Luckman, maybe.

McMahon?  Please.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10124396 - 04/07/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Wasn't their a point when Jimmy Mac was like 33-2 as starter? He has a title, Jay never will. JM was LOVED by his team mates, including Singletary, Payton, Covert and Hildenburg, all HOF'ers if I'm not mistaken. Ditka was the reason they didn't win more. For all the prima donna talk about Jim and Jay, THAT guy was THE queen.

I'm willing to bet on this. Let's do. Jay will never win a title. I can see why you're so pumped to have him, I was jocking him long before most, but I'm telling you, he's Jeff George's little sissy brother :shrug:

Jay is going to crash and burn. Most likely McDaniels will flame out too. Those are the real odds. Instead of acting like one team or the other got the one up, lets be real. Now if say Minnesota got JC, THEN there might be an argument. Fact is, the Bears are in worse shape than the Broncos are in almost every way, and unless they make serious changes and things turn around, they could be starting a penguin at QB and get as far as they will with Cutler.

Nowhere.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10124485 - 04/07/09 04:50 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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I hate you.

We should fight.




:lol:

My love for you is equally proportional to the amount of drivel you share within these forums.  :smile:


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #10125150 - 04/07/09 06:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Leave Trip alone. He's high on the aroma of Jay Cutler's jock. Just like 99% of people around here USED to be :puke:

He'll get over it by about late October.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10125281 - 04/07/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #10125290 - 04/07/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Stop what?


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10125299 - 04/07/09 06:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

HAMMERTIME.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10125309 - 04/07/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10125344 - 04/07/09 06:43 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I wish I could say that was an original thought, but some kids in my neighborhood have that stenciled onto every single stop sign w/in a 40 block radius.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10125468 - 04/07/09 06:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

:lol: WTF???


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10126003 - 04/07/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You are still livin in that Ghetto then :grin:

I always see "Hatin".


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10126055 - 04/07/09 08:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, I still live in the hood.

Just renewed my lease, too.

I've lived here two years now and they haven't raised my rent once.  Must just be happy to have someone who pays the rent on time and doesn't run a den of sin.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10126591 - 04/07/09 09:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You don't??


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10126592 - 04/07/09 09:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Must just be happy to have someone who pays the rent on time and doesn't run a den of sin.




:lol:

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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #10126610 - 04/07/09 09:18 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

RIGHT.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10138784 - 04/09/09 07:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Penguarky Tunguin said:
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Madtowntripper said:
Must just be happy to have someone who pays the rent on time and doesn't run a den of sin.




:lol:

Wrong.



Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
RIGHT.




I was hoping this go-between would continue.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: mr.bixby]
    #10138914 - 04/09/09 08:14 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I'd love to continue it as well, but I gave up arguing with half-wit morons for lent.

Stay with me Penguarky, only a few more days!


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10139093 - 04/09/09 08:40 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I gave up religion for lent.

But reading Mad's post nowadays just makes me tired, so it's not worth it.  Especially when talking football, where he is completely out of his element.  :smirk:


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10140250 - 04/10/09 12:54 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

My perspective as a San Diego fan... I rather see Orton as the Broncs QB. Don't get me wrong, I like Orton and think he will develope, but a new QB in a new system always helps SD. Cutler has a cannon arm and although his TD-INT ratio is somewhat mediocre, he is young. Give him a decent pass protection and you will see the greatness. I do like him a lot more on the bears because it is easier to root for him. They have one of the best deep threats in the NFL (Hester, mainly because of his speed) and having a guy like Cutler will benefit the team. What they need now is a solid #1 receiver.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: AaronEvil]
    #10140825 - 04/10/09 05:26 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I really don't think Orton will start for Denver...


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10141045 - 04/10/09 07:56 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Who will, wise NFL sage?


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #10143459 - 04/10/09 04:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I have a tough time believing Chris Simms isn't a better QB than Orton.

When there was an actual quarterback competition, rather than a sham one, Orton was beat out by Rex Grossman.

Grossman will not be playing professional football this year, if that tells you how good he is.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10143876 - 04/10/09 05:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

They gave Simms 6 Million to "back up" Cutler. I think Jay was out the door as soon as McDaniels signed, but I've never heard anyone else say it. I think that's why Cutler took the stand he did, because McD wanted to get maximum value and Cutler felt betrayed.

I thought Cutler was a punk before the whole McJay gate issue, but I can see why he was upset. But McDaniels is the coach, and has a right to build his team the way he sees fit.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10144000 - 04/10/09 05:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9429110/Aikman:-Cutting-T.O.-the-right-move-for-Cowboys?MSNHPHMA

Troy Aikman three days ago:

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Yet he's still baffled by the falling out between Jay Cutler and new Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, a rift that resulted in the young Pro Bowl quarterback being traded to Chicago.

"I just don't get how it got to that point in such a short period of time," Aikman said. "It seems to me that McDaniels had that in mind before he even got that job. That's what was bizarre to me."

Aikman wonders whether Broncos owner Pat Bowlen would've hired McDaniels had he known the coach wasn't committed to building around Cutler.

"Maybe (Bowlen) did know it, I don't know. But it was pretty obvious, based on the timing, that Josh McDaniels knew that he wasn't real high on Cutler, if he's trying to make a trade for Matt Cassel within his first few weeks on the job," Aikman said. "Could Jay have handled it a little better? Yeah, I think maybe he could have. But I certainly don't begrudge him for being as upset as he was."




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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #10145182 - 04/10/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well, thank God I'm not the only one who thought that. I was really surprised that none of the media around here ever mentioned it as far as I saw.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #10163668 - 04/14/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)




you guys are going to need a new video! :grin:


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10163813 - 04/14/09 12:29 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

:dielaughing:

"struttin' our stuff for everyone!" :tongue2:


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10164656 - 04/14/09 02:50 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Lonestar, I love your new avatar, but you'll have to explain the sig photo to me.

You don't read Karl Denniger by chance do you?


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10167481 - 04/14/09 09:17 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yes i do read karl denniger! :grin: and that 1,00,000,000,000 billion dollar note in my sig will buy you just three eggs in Zimbabwe due to hyperinflation...


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: lonestar2004]
    #10169178 - 04/15/09 01:41 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Isn't that guy brilliant? I love the people on his board too. I wish I could get everyone in America to read him, things would change so fast. With all of that said, how surprised are you that TS hasn't HTF yet? I'm am a bit, I don't know how long they can keep the smoke and mirrors game going.


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: whattheheck]
    #10178486 - 04/16/09 03:00 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Way off topic, but who is this Karl Denniger guy?


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Re: A Bears Fan On Jay Cutler [Re: dill705]
    #10178527 - 04/16/09 03:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

He's a guy who sees what's really happening with the American and global economy and a true patriot.

Check out his current and archive of Tickers at http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=Ticker


Read "What's ahead 2009" & "What's dead". That will be a good start.


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