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quick WBS question
    #10101491 - 04/03/09 05:14 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

So Ive acquired some bird seed, as Im getting tired of the BRF substrate and Im ready to move on.

Im not sure if this particular mix will work well, so Im asking my fellow shroomerites for some advice.

Ingredients on the back of the bag--

-sunflower seeds
-millet
-cracked corn
-peanut parts
-safflower

Other stuff on the back of the bag--

crude protien- minimun 12%
crude fat- minimum 20%
crude fiber- maximun 15%

Think itll work well?


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: proud_republican]
    #10102009 - 04/03/09 06:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i think it would work fine, just remember to soak over night.


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: deladude]
    #10102236 - 04/03/09 07:22 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks man.

Does anyone have any preferred WBS teks?


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: proud_republican]
    #10102259 - 04/03/09 07:25 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

docs wbs tek. make sure to get the floaters off the top off the water. find his tek and youll be good to go

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Re: quick WBS question [Re: anakin3197]
    #10102302 - 04/03/09 07:32 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

make sure you spawn to dung/straw because wbs tends not to fruit well cased alone

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Re: quick WBS question [Re: T-Rex]
    #10102414 - 04/03/09 07:58 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

dont forget to add coir

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Re: quick WBS question [Re: anakin3197]
    #10102458 - 04/03/09 08:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Most WBS teks here are crap and will leave you with wet and/or busted kernels.  The best way I have found to do WBS (especially cracked corn mixes) is to rinse grain very very well and soak for 4-24 hrs with gypsum (plaster of paris).  Then cook on high in spaghetti pot with plenty of water for 15-20min right from the start of turning on the stove.  The water will just begin to simmer, then take pot off stove and drain in spaghetti strainers and place strainers on top a towel in front of a fan for about 25min while mixing grain up with large spoon (or hands) every 5min until outside of grain has a dry look to it and grain does not stick much to hands.  Then it is ready to load.


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: anakin3197]
    #10102650 - 04/03/09 09:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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anakin3197 said:
docs wbs tek. make sure to get the floaters off the top off the water. find his tek and youll be good to go




In my last grow I did, I pretty much called BS on removing the black sunflower seeds by using 100% BSS for spawn.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9860122#9860122

Nothing wrong with the BSS, taking out the floaters is waisting time, and perfectly fine grain.


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: Boris]
    #10102732 - 04/03/09 09:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i remember reading where you said that you was going to try using straight bsfs, never did follow it though, cuz i forgot. ill check that link out

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Re: quick WBS question [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #10103302 - 04/03/09 11:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Most WBS teks here are crap and will leave you with wet and/or busted kernels.  The best way I have found to do WBS (especially cracked corn mixes) is to rinse grain very very well and soak for 4-24 hrs with gypsum (plaster of paris).  Then cook on high in spaghetti pot with plenty of water for 15-20min right from the start of turning on the stove.  The water will just begin to simmer, then take pot off stove and drain in spaghetti strainers and place strainers on top a towel in front of a fan for about 25min while mixing grain up with large spoon (or hands) every 5min until outside of grain has a dry look to it and grain does not stick much to hands.  Then it is ready to load.





Really?  Why don't you link us to most of those WBS teks that our "Crap"  That way we won't bother with them.  Sounds like you have your "method" down pretty well!  Will you please post a tek?  A Pictorial will be nice. :super:


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10104203 - 04/04/09 08:26 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Kramer's wbs tek rocks hard core, I'll see if I can get him to post it! :thumbup:


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: george castanza]
    #10104930 - 04/04/09 11:59 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i just rinse and soak over night. i dont bother scraping off floaters unless there is a ton. then i simmer them until they start splitting.
then dump the water. keep filling up the pot with hot tap water and stir and dump. keep doing this till the water your pouring off is pretty clear. then dump into a strainer and let sit for fifteen minutes.
hope that helps


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: deladude]
    #10107690 - 04/04/09 10:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Really?  Why don't you link us to most of those WBS teks that our "Crap"  That way we won't bother with them.




Any WBS that tells you to simmer for any length of time or until kernels bust is crap.  The only good grain tek here is RR's grain tek, which my method of handling WBS is based on his tek, minus the extended boiling.


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #10107880 - 04/04/09 11:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

wow..... my bad. forgot preparing wbs was such a delicate procedure. :homo:


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #10108061 - 04/04/09 11:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Really?  Why don't you link us to most of those WBS teks that our "Crap"  That way we won't bother with them.




Any WBS that tells you to simmer for any length of time or until kernels bust is crap.  The only good grain tek here is RR's grain tek, which my method of handling WBS is based on his tek, minus the extended boiling.




Well, I guess that makes my tek crap!  I suggest you keep an open mind on other member's teks.  I realize what may work for some may not work for others and vise versa but there are PLENTY of Great ideas out there that are tried and true. 
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The only good grain tek here is RR's grain tek,


  Is a bold statement.  I'm sure if you asked Wronguy, Monstermitch, Agar, Hyphae, Magash.... ect. ect.  They would probably give you their own take on the WBS thang.  Keep an open mind. :wink:


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #10108318 - 04/05/09 12:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

There are several ways to skin a cat.  As long as you hydrate the kernels properly either through soak, simmer, etc they all accomplish the same results.


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Re: quick WBS question [Re: shroomzey]
    #10108483 - 04/05/09 01:10 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Did some one say Agar and Magash? I leave for a couple years for some reasons and come back and there gone. I miss em both so much. And yeah i think the new comers to the boards are hanging on RR to much. The guy is damn good and knows his shit, but so does alot of other people.
 
  And im sure he will even tell you to get out there and learn and experiment. You wont progress as a cultivator if you just follow all of his tek's every time.

  So before you go spouting off with comments like that show us something to back it up. (pics of failed jars from other teks and pics of colonized jars from your way) would be a good start to backing it up. and even then we can find a reason the other teks didnt work for you and i almost bet it wasnt the tek but human error instead.

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Re: quick WBS question [Re: Doodle]
    #10108504 - 04/05/09 01:15 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Doodle is right.

What everyone should do, is doubt everything and every tek.

Test all of them and decide for yourself.  Legitimate personal experience and trial and error should always mean more than words in a book or text on a screen.  Look at a tek as a starter guide, not a bible.


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