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OfflineLancaster
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My First San Pedro
    #10097631 - 04/02/09 09:46 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

I went to home depot today and found a beautiful San Pedro.



This is my first foray into the world of psychedelic gardening, so needless to say I might need some help. How should I treat these cacti? It's going to be 80+ degrees here in FL for the next 7 months or so, so I'm considering giving it a full growth season (water every four days and full sunlight), beginning water starvation around October, and harvesting this winter around January. Any advice?


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10097823 - 04/02/09 10:13 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

Congratulations on catching the bug :laugh:

Don't kill it man, as you said it's beautiful.

I have a cactus garden in FL that is directly in the ground the only thing you need to worry about is nutrients, the sand seems to be lacking where my garden is.

Have fun growing this magnificent plant!


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10097961 - 04/02/09 10:31 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

Haha, well I think I definitely want to harvest it within a year, so sadly it may not last long.

My friend pointed out that the middle section of the right cactus in the picture is duller and thinner because that was the growth it experienced during the winter. Is that true? What do you do with your cacti during the winter bloodnashes?


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10098002 - 04/02/09 10:38 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

They chill, haha. San Pedro comes from high altitudes in Peru and can handle temperatures until about 30 or so I've heard. Mine are outside and when I checked on them in February were still doing well, although nutrients will greatly improve their condition. The etiolation is caused by continuous growth in a period when growth should be stopped due to poorer conditions i.e. winter.

If you're looking to try mescaline I'd recommend getting skins or powder, leaves those babies alone :tongue:

Welcome to the Shroomery btw.


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Cactusdan]
    #10098067 - 04/02/09 10:50 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

how much did you pay for em


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: salviance]
    #10098230 - 04/02/09 11:22 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

$20 total, plus some cactus soil and clay pots.

Why would do you advise against using San Pedro for mescaline? Do you grow yours exclusively for landscaping?


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10098291 - 04/02/09 11:37 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

We um... grow too close to our cacti. If you keep that thing around, you'll catch the bug soon enough. If you wanna harvest that one, I'd wait until you can hack off a doses worth, keep it, and let it pup.

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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10098357 - 04/02/09 11:57 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

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$20 total, plus some cactus soil and clay pots.

Why would do you advise against using San Pedro for mescaline? Do you grow yours exclusively for landscaping?




There's nothing wrong with growing san pedro for mescaline if you're really really patient. Instead of killing the plant, just harvest enough for your trip and let it live :p

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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Mankey]
    #10098358 - 04/02/09 11:58 PM (15 years, 17 days ago)

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We um... grow too close to our cacti. If you keep that thing around, you'll catch the bug soon enough. If you wanna harvest that one, I'd wait until you can hack off a doses worth, keep it, and let it pup.




It's true, I have already spent a while beaming good thoughts at it...

The right cactus is a good two feet tall, that's a couple doses right there isn't it? The thing is, if I want to hack off a chunk of it I have to make it sickly first, which would be sad...

Still, letting it send me into mescaline-land might be the best thing.


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10098369 - 04/03/09 12:01 AM (15 years, 17 days ago)

Why would you have to make the cactus sickly first? You just take a knife and hack it off. 12-15 inches is what most people say works for a trip, although I'd wait until the point where when you cut it there are still at least a few inches sticking out of the soil. That way, you get pups!

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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Mankey]
    #10098379 - 04/03/09 12:03 AM (15 years, 17 days ago)

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Why would you have to make the cactus sickly first? You just take a knife and hack it off. 12-15 inches is what most people say works for a trip, although I'd wait until the point where when you cut it there are still at least a few inches sticking out of the soil. That way, you get pups!




Isn't water starvation the best way to force the cactus to produce alkaloids and mescaline? Or can I just hack off the top chunk there (the part where it gets thick again after the dull part) and let it sit for a while? Will that have the same effect?


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10098396 - 04/03/09 12:10 AM (15 years, 17 days ago)

If you hack off the top it will pup. As far as stressing mescaline containing cacti - it's debatable whether that works well enough to be beneficial. If you search this site, there are numerous posts about the subject. I've never done mescaline so I'm really not the one to ask.

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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Mankey]
    #10098404 - 04/03/09 12:13 AM (15 years, 17 days ago)

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If you hack off the top it will pup. As far as stressing mescaline containing cacti - it's debatable whether that works well enough to be beneficial. If you search this site, there are numerous posts about the subject. I've never done mescaline so I'm really not the one to ask.




Wow I didn't realize that was contested. Ok then, I've worked things out and we have a new game plan. We'll hack off a single dose from the large cactus and let that grow back during this season. I'll do some more research concerning the effect stressing has on potency.


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10099314 - 04/03/09 09:11 AM (15 years, 16 days ago)

Stressing has no effect. Thats BS. If you are planning on consuming it, I hope you realize that you are going to need at least 16" for a dose. Maybe even 18". Pedro tend to be weak. Go for bridgesii cuttings. You can find them fairly cheap on auction sites.

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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: ethnoguy]
    #10112025 - 04/05/09 06:09 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Another quick question, I've replanted the cacti in a similar sized pot, can anyone give me advice on how much root space it'll need? Does that pot  look big enough to hold it for a full grow season?


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10112435 - 04/05/09 07:20 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Sounds like you´ve got a lot of reading to do on Cacti.
Give them a bigger vase, a rich but well drained soil and they´ll grow like monsters. They seem to be very vigorous backbergs.


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: felixhigh]
    #10112439 - 04/05/09 07:21 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Yeah, nothing can stop trichs!


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: jds]
    #10113293 - 04/05/09 09:44 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

:yesnod:

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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: ethnoguy]
    #10115497 - 04/06/09 09:29 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Well that is good to hear. Thanks for the tips guys!  :smile2:


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Re: My First San Pedro [Re: Lancaster]
    #10115612 - 04/06/09 09:50 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

It does not need water every 4 days. Once every two weeks is what I go with to avoid any rot on any of my succulents, I'm in Fl too just for reference.


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