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Is it possible to make LSD from LSA?
#10090880 - 04/01/09 10:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just curious. Can you extract LSA from HBWR seeds or MG seeds and then make LSD from it?
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Yes. Just add baking soda.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10090939 - 04/01/09 10:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean for real
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10090945 - 04/01/09 10:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tedwilto said: Yes. Just add baking soda.
You have to heat it too, the reaction isn't just going to happen. You have to crush the seeds and swirl them in vinegar, then slowly heat over a stove, after a few minutes but before it starts boiling or anything, add baking soda.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10090952 - 04/01/09 10:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=328862&f=114
Here is it in the most detail I can summon.
There is a geodesic dome, existing on a plane. On that plane in the very center of the dome is an inverted dome, smaller and below the plain like a bowl. both are spheres and gold. The exact same dimensions means, common manipulation in the outer sphere to the inner sphere. In the bowl you place an aqueous solution.
Ethyl Alcohol and LSA extract. or Water and LSA extract.
The dome is all contained in a glass something, like an aquarium, and filled with halogen gas, or non reactive noble gases. Preferably a gas thats not reactive and produces UV light. The LSA wont react with the gold or the noble gases.
Next you electrically manipulate the structure in the shape of the LSA molecule, and then the molecule in the aqueous solution resonates and aligns to a magnetic field specific to its molecular shape.
Now the electric manipulation on the structure of the geodesic dome will be reversed on the part where the amide is. This flips the amide.
Then ethane gas is added and fused through manipulation of the sphere in the parts that are where the two (diethylamide) ethyls will be.
This might require the ethane gas to bubbling through the aqueous solution.
Then you have LSD
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Go into ODD and search this. There have been many a long thread about it.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
#10090995 - 04/01/09 10:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
tpihkal said:
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Tedwilto said: Yes. Just add baking soda.
You have to heat it too, the reaction isn't just going to happen. You have to crush the seeds and swirl them in vinegar, then slowly heat over a stove, after a few minutes but before it starts boiling or anything, add baking soda.
god damnit, how am I gonna pay for all this, my kitchen is beyond fucked up.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Pigasus]
#10091591 - 04/02/09 12:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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just sell some of that lsd you just made
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
#10091653 - 04/02/09 12:28 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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tpihkal said: just sell some of that lsd you just made
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Is it possible to use google as a search engine? Just curious.
Seriously, every LSD synth either starts at or proceeds through lysergic acid. Some need it anhydrous, others aren't so picky, but they all start at or proceed through lysergic acid. Cleaving the amide bond to an acid is a piece of cake. And this topic has been discussed at least hundreds, if not thousands of times.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
#10091688 - 04/02/09 12:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Jufin said: Then you have LSD
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Dude you can make acid with oranges like so.
First let the orange sit in the dark and keep it wet.
When it molds rub tooth paste all over it and let sit for 5 min in an ice bath.
After this your orange contains LSD enjoy.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: awesomebastard]
#10092177 - 04/02/09 03:23 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Be careful with that tek, I would suggest only eating half the orange and wait a half-hour. If you don't feel anything than eat the other half, this tek is very powerful.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
#10092192 - 04/02/09 03:29 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, my friend tried this and now he thinks he's a glass of orange juice. Careful man, I swear this makes super-lsd.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: skin_]
#10092204 - 04/02/09 03:37 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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how come nobody has oranges and toothpaste listed in the market place?
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#10092235 - 04/02/09 04:03 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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http://www.amazon.com/Practical-LSD-Manufacture-Uncle-Fester/dp/0970148577/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238666239&sr=8-1
i downloaded this book with a torrent and after reading it i decided lsd production was way out of my league. you'll need a really good front to explain to the DEA what you're doing with the chemicals since chemical vendors are required by law to keep records of who buys certain chemicals and to report on suspicious activity. there are very few LSD manufacturers in the country and it's for a reason.
EDIT: oh, and to answer your question, yes. the book tells you how to start by getting the LSA out of either ergot, HBWR, or MG
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: AngryPhil]
#10097179 - 04/02/09 08:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wait, can I really make LSD with oranges and tooth paste? Or is that a joke?
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thejesterjester said: Wait, can I really make LSD with oranges and tooth paste? Or is that a joke?
Yeah dude go try it out, be sure to eat it all really quick, it'll metabolize into LSD in your stomach, how do you think so much acid gets made? Quick, go go go.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: twighead]
#10097244 - 04/02/09 08:59 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Really man? I don't know, I wanna ask someone that has actually done it before.
So can I actually make LSD with LSA without all them chemicals that I cannot get?
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thejesterjester said: Wait, can I really make LSD with oranges and tooth paste? Or is that a joke?
It's not a joke, it's serious business.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: blewmeanie]
#10097262 - 04/02/09 09:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10097278 - 04/02/09 09:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well what's the closest way I can make LSD without all the different weird ass chemical shit that I have no way of getting?
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No.
Sorry guys.
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thejesterjester said: Well what's the closest way I can make LSD without all the different weird ass chemical shit that I have no way of getting?
By taking money down to your local apothecary.
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The orange way does work, but make sure it's moldy but not totally covered in mold. Also, when you put it in the ice bath you have to make the whole orange cold in order to allow the tangecides to transform into lysergic acid.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
#10097326 - 04/02/09 09:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow really? So I put toothpaste on an orange peel and it will really yield LSD? Can someone tell me more about this?
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Yeah I can verify the toothpaste method works.
I yielded at least a vials worth last summer.
You have to make sure you use Colgate though, extra strength.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
#10097367 - 04/02/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've had some success with Crest Extra Whitening but I agree that Colgate Extra Strength yielded the most potent orange.
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I've always preferred the fosters beer method.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
#10097381 - 04/02/09 09:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Someone should write up a tek for this.
The main thing to remember is to put the toothpaste in the freezer over night and then thaw it out. Do this several times. This extracts the unwanted crap in the toothpaste. Colgate Extra Strength must be used - no other toothpaste contains the synthetic diethylamide.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
#10097393 - 04/02/09 09:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can't tell, are you guys bullshitting?
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
#10097398 - 04/02/09 09:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Like I said, I did have some success with Crest Extra Whitening... no other Crest worked though.
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Why would we be bullshitting you??? How do you think most street grade LSD is made?
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
#10097414 - 04/02/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mandrake said: Like I said, I did have some success with Crest Extra Whitening... no other Crest worked though.
Well fuck, you didn't have to get all defensive about it. Goddamn hippy.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
#10097425 - 04/02/09 09:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry, I just wanted to give him some options and share whats worked for me. I'd still go with the Colgate as it's the highest yield and the most commonly used in street LSD manufacture.
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Be careful though, don't buy a bunch of toothpaste and oranges at the same store, we wouldn't want the DEA to get suspicious...
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: walzmanm]
#10097458 - 04/02/09 09:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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walzmanm said: Be careful though, don't buy a bunch of toothpaste and oranges at the same store, we wouldn't want the DEA to get suspicious...
QFT
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
#10097479 - 04/02/09 09:29 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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also another helpful note, christmas oranges do not work. I tried with an entire box before i knew this and it did absolutely nothing. waste of a box of good oranges and couple things of Colgate.
gotta use regular oranges.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10097488 - 04/02/09 09:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wtf is a christmas orange?
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
#10097520 - 04/02/09 09:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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the little small ones, mandarin oranges im quite sure, we only get them around christmas up here in canada.
I figured i would have some fun around christmas with some home cooked LSD but it was a waste of time and made my christmas break quite shitty.
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The Fosters beer method is obviously bullshit, but I've heard good things about the orange peel method.
I dug up some details on the chemistry from an old thread:
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The limonene in the orange peels undergoes nucleophilic attack by the menthol in the toothpaste, catalyzed by the presence of hydroxide generated in situ by the basic chemicals in the toothpaste.
Shit makes you trip ballz.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10097530 - 04/02/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok well can someone give me some instructions?
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See the link I posted above, it's basically a combination tek/trip-report (sounds like he might've messed up the procedure a bit though )
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
#10097572 - 04/02/09 09:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah the orange TEK is a fine line between fucking it up completely and getting yourself some pure lsd.
probably not the best for beginners but you could probably figure it out.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
#10097593 - 04/02/09 09:41 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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quote]Entropymancer said:
I dug up some details on the chemistry from an old thread:
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The limonene in the orange peels undergoes nucleophilic attack by the menthol in the toothpaste, catalyzed by the presence of hydroxide generated in situ by the basic chemicals in the toothpaste.
Shit makes you trip ballz.
Whoa that guy knows his shit.:D
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Tedwilto]
#10097602 - 04/02/09 09:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, I;ll try it. But what chemical does this stuff actually make? Is it the real LSD stuff or something the produced similar effects? Could I sell this shit as LSD?
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Ok wow that was a bullshit. I'm not gonna try it. Is there REALLY a way to make LSD or something close to it?
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Yeah man, but you need to be sure it's LSD first. I usually just test mine, but I'm reckless and have the technique down pretty tight. If you need any tips we're more than happy to help you.
As the others said, just make sure you buy other things when you pick up the oranges and toothpaste, people get suspicious because this tek is getting popular. Good luck, man.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: skin_]
#10097640 - 04/02/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I want a different way. Read my post above
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Of course.
This acid is bomb and most peoples favorite they call it orange sunshine perhaps you've heard.
Black people love it.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: awesomebastard]
#10097670 - 04/02/09 09:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Or dont listen to any of the people trying to help you....
orange tek really works brah.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: skin_]
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I want a different way guys...
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LSD-25 Synthesis
Contents
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LSD-25 Synthesis from "Psychedelic Guide to the Preparation of the Eucharist"
Preparatory arrangements
Starting material may be any lysergic acid derivative, from ergot on rye grain or from culture, or morning glory seeds or from synthetic sources. Preparation #1 uses any amide, or lysergic acid as starting material. Preparations #2 and #3 must start with lysergic acid only, prepared from the amides as follows:
10 g of any lysergic acid amide from various natural sources dissolved in 200 ml of methanolic KOH solution and the methanol removed immediately in vacuo. The residue is treated with 200 ml of an 8% aqueous solution of KOH and the mixture heated on a steam bath for one hour. A stream of nitrogen gas is passed through the flask during heating and the evolved NH3 gas may be titrated is HCl to follow the reaction. The alkaline solution is made neutral to congo red with tartaric acid, filtered, cleaned by extraction with ether, the aqueous solution filtered and evaporated. Digest with MeOH to remove some of the coloured material from the crystals of lysergic acid. Arrange the lighting in the lab similarly to that of a dark room. Use photographic red and yellow safety lights, as lysergic acid derivatives are decomposed when light is present. Rubber gloves must be worn due to the highly poisonous nature of ergot alkaloids. A hair drier, or, better, a flash evaporator, is necessary to speed up steps where evaporation is necessary.
Preparation #1
Step I. Use Yellow light
Place one volume of powdered ergot alkaloid material in a tiny roundbottom flask and add two volumes of anhydrous hydrazine. An alternate procedure uses a sealed tube in which the reagents are heated at 112 C. The mixture is refluxed (or heated) for 30 minutes. Add 1.5 volumes of H2O and boil 15 minutes. On cooling in the refrigerator, isolysergic acid hydrazide is crystallised.
Step II. Use Red light
Chill all reagents and have ice handy. Dissolve 2.82 g hydrazine rapidly in 100 ml 0.1 N ice-cold HCl using an ice bath to keep the reaction vessel at 0 C. 100 ml ice-cold 0.1 N NaNO2 is added and after 2 to 3 minutes vigorous stirring, 130 ml more HCl is added dropwise with vigorous stirring again in an ice bath. After 5 minutes, neutralise the solution with NaHCO3 saturated sol. and extract with ether. Remove the aqueous solution and try to dissolve the gummy substance in ether. Adjust the ether solution by adding 3 g diethylamine per 300 ml ether extract. Allow to stand in the dark, gradually warming up to 20 C over a period of 24 hours. Evaporate in vacuum and treat as indicated in the purification section for conversion of iso-lysergic amides to lysergic acid amides.
Preparation #2
Step I. Use Yellow light
5.36 g of d-lysergic acid are suspended in 125 ml of acetonitrile and the suspension cooled to about -20 C in a bath of acetone cooled with dry ice. To the suspension is added a cold (-20 C) solution of 8.82 g of trifluoroacetic anhydride in 75 ml of acetonitrile. The mixture is allowed to stand at -20 C for about 1.5 hours during which the suspended material dissolves, and the d-lysergic acid is converted to the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids. The mixed anhydride can be separated in the form of an oil by evaporating the solvent in vacuo at a temperature below 0 C, but this is not necessary. Everything must be kept anhydrous.
Step II. Use Yellow light
The solution of mixed anhydrides in acetonitrile from Step I is added to 150 ml of a second solution of acetonitrile containing 7.6 g of diethylamine. The mixture is held in the dark at room temperature for about 2 hours. The acetonitrile is evaporated in vacuo, leaving a residue of LSD-25 plus other impurities. The residue is dissolved in 150 ml of chloroform and 20 ml of ice water. The chloroform layer is removed and the aqueous layer is extracted with several portions of chloroform. The chloroform portions are combined and in turn washed with four 50 ml portions of ice-cold water. The chloroform solution is then dried over anhydrous Na2SO4 and evaporated in vacuo.
Preparation #3
This procedure gives good yield and is very fast with little iso-lysergic acid being formed (its effect are mildly unpleasant). However, the stoichometry must be exact or yields will drop.
Step I. Use White light
Sulfur trioxide is produced in anhydrous state by carefully decomposing anhydrous ferric sulfate at approximately 480 C. Store under anhydrous conditions.
Step II. Use White light
A carefully dried 22 litre RB flask fitted with an ice bath, condenser, dropping funnel and mechanical stirrer is charged with 10 to 11 litres of dimethylformamide (freshly distilled under reduced pressure). The condenser and dropping funnel are both protected against atmospheric moisture. 2 lb of sulfur trioxide (Sulfan B) are introduced dropwise, very cautiously stirring, during 4 to 5 hours. The temperature is kept at 0-5 C throughout the addition. After the addition is complete, the mixture is stirred for 1-2 hours until some separated, crystalline sulfur trioxide-dimethylformamide complex has dissolved. The reagent is transferred to an air- tight automatic pipette for convenient dispensing, and kept in the cold. Although the reagent, which is colourless, may change from yellow to red, its efficiency remains unimpaired for three to four months in cold storage. An aliquot is dissolved in water and titrated with standard NaOH to a phenolphthalein end point.
Step III. Use Red light
A solution of 7.15 g of d-lysergic acid mono hydrate (25 mmol) and 1.06 g of lithium hydroxide hydrate (25 mmol) in 200 ml of MeOH is prepared. The solvent is distilled on the steam bath under reduced pressure. the residue of glass-like lithium lysergate is dissolved in 400 ml of anhydrous dimethyl formamide. From this solution about 200 ml of the dimethyl formamide is distilled off at 15 ml pressure through a 12 inch helices packed column. the resulting anhydrous solution of lithium lysergate left behind is cooled to 0 C and, with stirring, treated rapidly with 500 ml of SO3-DMF solution (1.00 molar). The mixture is stirred in the cold for 10 minutes and then 9.14 g (125.0 mmol) of diethylamine is added. The stirring and cooling are continued for 10 minutes longer, when 400 ml of water is added to decompose the reaction complex. After mixing thoroughly, 200 ml of saturated aqueous saline solution is added. The amide product is isolated by repeated extraction with 500 ml portions of ethylene dichloride. the combined extract is dried and then concentrated to a syrup under reduced pressure. Do not heat up the syrup during concentration. the LSD may crystallise out, but the crystals and the mother liquor may be chromatographed according to the instructions on purification.
Purification of LSD-25
The material obtained by any of these three preparations may contain both lysergic acid and iso-lysergic acid amides. Preparation #1 contains mostly iso-lysergic diethylamide and must be converted prior to separation. For this material, go to Step II first.
Step I
Use darkroom and follow with a long wave UV The material is dissolved in a 3:1 mixture of benzene and chloroform. Pack the chromatography column with a slurry of basic alumina in benzene so that a 1 inch column is six inches long. Drain the solvent to the top of the alumina column and carefully add an aliquot of the LSD-solvent solution containing 50 ml of solvent and 1 g LSD. Run this through the column, following the fastest moving fluorescent band. After it has been collected, strip the remaining material from the column by washing with MeOH. Use the UV light sparingly to prevent excessive damage to the compounds. Evaporate the second fraction in vacuo and set aside for Step II. The fraction containing the pure LSD is concentrated in vacuo and the syrup will crystallise slowly. This material may be converted to the tartrate by tartaric acid and the LSD tartrate conveniently crystallised. MP 190-196 C.
Step II. Use Red light
Dissolve the residue derived from the methanol stripping of the column in a minimum amount of alcohol. Add twice that volume of 4 N alcoholic KOH solution and allow the mixture to stand at room temperature for several hours. Neutralise with dilute HCl, make slightly basic with NH4OH and extract with chloroform or ethylene dichloride as in preparations #1 or #2. Evaporate in vacuo and chromatograph as in the previous step.
Lysergic acid compounds are unstable to heat, light and oxygen. In any form it helps to add ascorbic acid as an anti- oxidant, keeping the container tightly closed, light-tight with aluminum foil, and in a refrigerator.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
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Simple enough.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
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You COULD do all that work but orange TEK will give you higher yeilds and less bullshit trying to obtain all the chemist equipment
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You can try the fosters beer method... but a lot of people don't believe it works.
orange peel tek is tried and true.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Jufin]
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Shit! I would love to do this... if I could get the shit to do it with. Is there ANYWAY to do this without a degree in chemistry? Also, what would I have to major in to make something like this and manufacture LSD?
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Degrees are not necessary for anything exept getting a job, but going to school helps.
It seems more difficult to learn on your own with noone to guide you.
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Man, I usually don't like insulting people.. But you're borderline retarded.
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Jufin, that method is needlessly complicated/messy. The two best ways are both much easier than that. You can either use POCl3 (or POCl5) as Shulgin did (see the recipe in TiHKAL), or you can use a peptide coupling agent (like PyPOB) for the handy-dandy stereospecificity (Casey Hardison published this method after he got sent to prison in the UK for LSD manufacture)
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thejesterjester said: Shit! I would love to do this... if I could get the shit to do it with. Is there ANYWAY to do this without a degree in chemistry?
You don't need a degree in chemistry. Two years of chemistry courses and labs is enough to provide you with all the vocabulary and pretty much all the hands-on experience you'd need to be able to synthesize LSD. Hell, you honestly don't even need college if you're willing to use a dictionary a lot. The hands-on lab experience is the most helpful portion of college chemistry if cooking is your ambition.
The difficulty is getting all the equipment and reagents that you need.
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thejesterjester said: Also, what would I have to major in to make something like this and manufacture LSD?
At risk of stating the obvious: Chemistry. Though to be honest, majoring in chemistry just to get the know-how to cook LSD is a pretty dumb idea. You cna learn the relevant info on your own, no need to drop thousands of dollars and four years into college on top of the investment you'd have to put in to getting the equipment and chems.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: skin_]
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Dude I'm just wondering. I know chemistry, but what in that field ?
How can I really learn it on my own without any of that? How do I get the chemicals?
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you don't need a degree but you're not going to make something like lsd without a lot of lab experience and well...a lab. If you're looking for something you can do at home, try dmt, mdma, meth, maybe even methcathinone, but for someone like you, don't expect to be producing any lsd anytime soon.
Also, even if you had the right major to make or posses LSD, chances are you would still never get the licensing needed.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
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I thank hes a A mod needs to look at him
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
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Chem is a difficult major as well, I'm sure you can back me up.
There are alot of really smart people I know in my classes and others that really struggle especially with orgo.
and frankly OP judging by your posts if you aren't 12 you probably dont have what it takes to major in chem.
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Yeah, I can back you up on that awesomebastard. I found it to be a lot of effort. I wouldn't call it difficult in the usual sense, but it takes a damn lot of tenacity. And there were definitely a lot of intelligent people who really struggled with some of the courses. And of course, some people just find they aren't suited to the hands-on lab stuff (I recall an otherwise very intelligent girl spilling a picric acid solution and wiping it up with paper towels!!!! )
Jesterjester, I hate to burst your bubble, but..... If you have this much difficulty finding easily-available information using a simple search engine, there's no way in hell you're ever going to be able to pull of an LSD synth.
And to be clear, I'm not saying it's difficult; it's really not, the difficulty is vastly over-exagerated. But it does require critical thinking and the ability to use the resources at your disposal.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
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Ok but how would I get ahold of these chemicals?
If not LSD, then what is a easy thing that I could manufacture at home? Quote:
tpihkal said: you don't need a degree but you're not going to make something like lsd without a lot of lab experience and well...a lab. If you're looking for something you can do at home, try dmt, mdma, meth, maybe even methcathinone, but for someone like you, don't expect to be producing any lsd anytime soon.
Also, even if you had the right major to make or posses LSD, chances are you would still never get the licensing needed.
dtm? I would love to make that. Can someone help me with that?
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thejesterjester said: Just curious. Can you extract LSA from HBWR seeds or MG seeds and then make LSD from it?
sorry to skip the whole thread but ..you piece of shit
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: awesomebastard]
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I can vouch for that, I'm back in school now as a chem major after a three year hiatus...I'm not looking forward to how much work I'm going to have to do. I breezed through orgo one without even studying, but I'm going to have to review the shit out of it before attempting orgo two... I don't remember any of my reaction types.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
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Yikes.
Good luck with that.
I would probably sacrifice the time and cash and take it over at a community college or something in the summer.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
#10097922 - 04/02/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I say hes a
Take a look at his ratings and eyes of the world they both take you to the same place..On my ratings !!
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
#10097923 - 04/02/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok so how can people get ahold of these chemicals?
Then how about DMT? Is that easy?
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My strong recommendation is that you avoid handling any dangerous chemicals. You sound like you're more apt to hurt yourself or others than successfully cook anything.
Also, there's a handy website you might want to be aware of... they've got shitloads of info on these topics. It's called and it's always a great starting point.
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Then how about DMT? Is that easy?
eat a tonne of grass...shit it all out... im just doing this for post count i give up lol...¬¬
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
#10097949 - 04/02/09 10:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Take a look at his ratings and eyes of the world they both take you to the same place..On my ratings !!
I got a suspicion you're right. But if he is, then his puppeteer is good about using a proxy, his puppet check is clean
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
#10097960 - 04/02/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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you think I'm a puppet?!? Either you're crazy or not using your quick reply buddy...
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
#10097963 - 04/02/09 10:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think he's just genuinely retarded.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
#10097964 - 04/02/09 10:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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dude wtf. I'm not a fucking puppet at all. Why the fuck are some of you assholes and I just have some questions?
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Just call your friends at the DEA ,they will hook a bro up......for realz.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
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Take a look at his ratings and eyes of the world they both take you to the same place..On my ratings !!
I got a suspicion you're right. But if he is, then his puppeteer is good about using a proxy, his puppet check is clean
Take a look at my ratings and click where it takes you...
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thejesterjester said: dude wtf. I'm not a fucking puppet at all. Why the fuck are some of you assholes and I just have some questions?
either you're a real obvious puppet...or a complete retard.
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I pretty sure all the guys saying "Try the Orange and Colgate Tek. Just be careful, its super-strong!" are bullshitting you, and they almost convinced me too. Making LSD is not as easy as putting toothpaste on orange peels and let it mold after couple weeks. I mean, come on! That's Ridiculous!
[Non-Important Add-On] If that were true, then this site would likely be called the Acidery!
However, there is a similarity in this method that is likely the source of this silly hoax: the mold growing. I am not expert in LSD production, but I am aware that to begin LSD production, you must have a large amount of a wheat/grain fungus called Ergot (Hypocreaceae Claviceps). Its actually produces psychedelic by itself, but sadly its also a DEADLY poision. DO NOT TRY TO GROW AND EAT IT JUST TO TRIP OUT ON, IT CAN KILL YOU. Anyway, thats one of the main ingredients and precursor chemicals of LSD: Ergot extracts. I've heard of LSD being made from other sources such as Morning Glories (contains LSA) or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (contains high concentrations of LSA and other alkoloids), I don't know if this is common.
Also, making LSD is a very complex chemical process which requires a lot of hard-to-find chemicals. Its likely easier to make Meth than LSD. And because of this reason (among many other reasons like Demand and low addition potential) is why Acid is so rare to find on the street.
If you want more info, there's a bunch of methods listed at Erowid.org (the Bible/Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Chemicals). Try look there. Good luck if you find a method that works.
P.S. Send me some blotters when your done, is $30 up front OK?
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: I pretty sure all the guys saying "Try the Orange and Colgate Tek. Just be careful, its super-strong!" are bullshitting you, and they almost convinced me too. Making LSD is not as easy as putting toothpaste on orange peels and let it mold after couple weeks. I mean, come on! That's Ridiculous!
However, there is a similarity in this method that is likely the source of this silly hoax: the mold growing. I am not expert in LSD production, but I am aware that to begin LSD production, you must have a large amount of a wheat/grain fungus called Ergot (Hypocreaceae Claviceps). Its actually produces psychedelic by itself, but sadly its also a DEADLY poision. DO NOT TRY TO GROW AND EAT IT JUST TO TRIP OUT ON, IT CAN KILL YOU. Anyway, thats one of the main ingredients and precursor chemicals of LSD: Ergot extracts. I've heard of LSD being made from other sources such as Morning Glories (contains LSA) or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (contains high concentrations of LSA and other alkoloids), I don't know if this is common.
Also, making LSD is a very complex chemical process which requires a lot of hard-to-find chemicals. Its likely easier to make Meth than LSD. And because of this reason (among many other reasons like Demand and low addition potential) is why Acid is so rare to find on the street.
If you want more info, there's a bunch of methods listed at Erowid.org (the Bible/Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Chemicals). Try look there. Good luck if you find a method that works.
P.S. Send me some blotters when your done, is $30 up front OK?
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Thanks man. I'm glad at least one person gave me some good info. I'll look more into that.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: I pretty sure all the guys saying "Try the Orange and Colgate Tek. Just be careful, its super-strong!" are bullshitting you, and they almost convinced me too. Making LSD is not as easy as putting toothpaste on orange peels and let it mold after couple weeks. I mean, come on! That's Ridiculous!
However, there is a similarity in this method that is likely the source of this silly hoax: the mold growing. I am not expert in LSD production, but I am aware that to begin LSD production, you must have a large amount of a wheat/grain fungus called Ergot (Hypocreaceae Claviceps). Its actually produces psychedelic by itself, but sadly its also a DEADLY poision. DO NOT TRY TO GROW AND EAT IT JUST TO TRIP OUT ON, IT CAN KILL YOU. Anyway, thats one of the main ingredients and precursor chemicals of LSD: Ergot extracts. I've heard of LSD being made from other sources such as Morning Glories (contains LSA) or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (contains high concentrations of LSA and other alkoloids), I don't know if this is common.
Also, making LSD is a very complex chemical process which requires a lot of hard-to-find chemicals. Its likely easier to make Meth than LSD. And because of this reason (among many other reasons like Demand and low addition potential) is why Acid is so rare to find on the street.
If you want more info, there's a bunch of methods listed at Erowid.org (the Bible/Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Chemicals). Try look there. Good luck if you find a method that works.
P.S. Send me some blotters when your done, is $30 up front OK?
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please...HOW CAN ANYBODY BE FOOLED??? i knew nothing of lsd when i came on here yet i obviously knew you cant make fucking lsd out of oranges and toothpaste...
i neeed to chill out lol im very tired
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
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Shut the fuck up man, I not a fucking puppet. I'm a normal person looking for someone info because I'm into this shit. Why are most people on this post fucking assholes?
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So another question. How can I get these chemicals to make it?
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thejesterjester said: Shut the fuck up man, I not a fucking puppet. I'm a normal person looking for someone info because I'm into this shit. Why are most people on this post fucking assholes?
sorry we're mean in the pub...go to otd and ask this...they'll provide you with the help you need =D
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Yeah ,you sound like you are in to it alright.....
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Just ask your friends at the DEA ,they will hook a bro up....for realz.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: unretarded]
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I'm not a fucking idiot. For realz where could I get the chemicals?
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
#10098101 - 04/02/09 10:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha fucktard, your so god damn funny.
You're a fucking asshole, with no help at all. Why are you on here just saying stupid shit. People come on here to ask for help and to talk, fucking dick head...
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Brainiac
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They do Ban for flaming....
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Brainiac
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thejesterjester said: haha fucktard, your so god damn funny.
You're a fucking asshole, with no help at all. Why are you on here just saying stupid shit. People come on here to ask for help and to talk, fucking dick head...
Cant take it away..Have fun in ban land...
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
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That guy sucks and all, but I like you less and less every minute.
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thejesterjester said: haha fucktard, your so god damn funny.
You're a fucking asshole, with no help at all. Why are you on here just saying stupid shit. People come on here to ask for help and to talk, fucking dick head...
nah man..you extract the SPICE0RZ from your mother juice cos all the brahs no its the strongest from there...thats what shroomery doesnt want you to know!
then you get a gun.... and the rest works out
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: awesomebastard]
#10098147 - 04/02/09 11:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said: That guy sucks and all, but I like you less and less every minute.
Get inline to suck my balls, like everyone else that doesn't like me...
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
#10098155 - 04/02/09 11:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, since that's generally what I do to people I dont like.
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As for your chemical question, I pretty sure that most of the chemicals have to be bought from a chemical manufacture company. I'm looking at some of the procedures on a document called "Possible two-step synth of LSD from LSA and iso-LSA" on Erowid.org under LSD -> Synthesis, and some examples of chemcials/techniques used are "extracted methylene chloride" and "dried with sodium sulfate". These chemicals are most likely not found at your local Home Depot, but come from specialized chemical suppliers. You *might* be able to get from a store, but it won't be pure and it will have a lot of chemicals with it you don't want.
Back to the guide, its actually showing a *possible* method to make an analogue to LSD with a chemical called lysergic acid methyl ester (for comparsion, LSD stands for lysergic acid diethylamide ). I am not sure if its an exact analogue, with all the potency, effects, and strenght of typical LSD, but it seems to be the easiest method I found in my short search of info.
The good thing is they are using extracts of LSA from Morning Glories/HBWR using Methanol/Ethanol (ethanol is basically pure alcohol, like Everclear and methanol can be bought at stores, although its not pure).
Side Note: samba_lightning was right. If you want a serious discussion about LSD manufacturing, you should post in the "Other Drugs Discussion" or "Chemistry and Pharmaceuticals" sections, NOT in the "I like to fuck with people using my keyboard by posting stupid shit" vibe that is The Pub discussion threads. Sadly, those sections don't get very much traffic, so you wouldn't get as many response. But, at least the responses would be intelligent and useful instead of the enormous pile of elephant shit people have dropped on top this thread. I apologize for their immaturity on this obviously serious topic for you.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10098254 - 04/02/09 11:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I apologize for their immaturity on this obviously serious topic for you.
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I thought everyone was just trying to match the tone of the OP. "Dudez how does i makez acid without uzing chemicals?" isn't exactly what I would consider a serious topic.
A serious topic is "What are the relative advantages and disadvantaged of the phosphorous oxychloride route versus using a peptide coupling agent?"
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#10103025 - 04/03/09 10:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: As for your chemical question, I pretty sure that most of the chemicals have to be bought from a chemical manufacture company. I'm looking at some of the procedures on a document called "Possible two-step synth of LSD from LSA and iso-LSA" on Erowid.org under LSD -> Synthesis, and some examples of chemcials/techniques used are "extracted methylene chloride" and "dried with sodium sulfate". These chemicals are most likely not found at your local Home Depot, but come from specialized chemical suppliers. You *might* be able to get from a store, but it won't be pure and it will have a lot of chemicals with it you don't want.
Back to the guide, its actually showing a *possible* method to make an analogue to LSD with a chemical called lysergic acid methyl ester (for comparsion, LSD stands for lysergic acid diethylamide ). I am not sure if its an exact analogue, with all the potency, effects, and strenght of typical LSD, but it seems to be the easiest method I found in my short search of info.
The good thing is they are using extracts of LSA from Morning Glories/HBWR using Methanol/Ethanol (ethanol is basically pure alcohol, like Everclear and methanol can be bought at stores, although its not pure).
Side Note: samba_lightning was right. If you want a serious discussion about LSD manufacturing, you should post in the "Other Drugs Discussion" or "Chemistry and Pharmaceuticals" sections, NOT in the "I like to fuck with people using my keyboard by posting stupid shit" vibe that is The Pub discussion threads. Sadly, those sections don't get very much traffic, so you wouldn't get as many response. But, at least the responses would be intelligent and useful instead of the enormous pile of elephant shit people have dropped on top this thread. I apologize for their immaturity on this obviously serious topic for you.
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Thanks man. I'll check that article out.
As for the other assholes - screw you
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hahah he ate the orange
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#10104258 - 04/04/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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The easy way, is to change the A for a D......
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
#10104265 - 04/04/09 08:57 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brainiac said: The easy way, is to change the A for a D......
That definitely takes the least amount of difficult-to-acquire chemicals
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Just curious. Can you extract LSA from HBWR seeds or MG seeds and then make LSD from it?
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