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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097810 - 04/02/09 10:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Man, I usually don't like insulting people..
But you're borderline retarded.
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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097827 - 04/02/09 10:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Jufin, that method is needlessly complicated/messy. The two best ways are both much easier than that. You can either use POCl3 (or POCl5) as Shulgin did (see the recipe in TiHKAL), or you can use a peptide coupling agent (like PyPOB) for the handy-dandy stereospecificity (Casey Hardison published this method after he got sent to prison in the UK for LSD manufacture)

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Shit! I would love to do this... if I could get the shit to  do it with. Is there ANYWAY  to do this without a degree in chemistry?





You don't need a degree in chemistry. Two years of chemistry courses and labs is enough to provide you with all the vocabulary and pretty much all the hands-on experience you'd need to be able to synthesize LSD.  Hell, you honestly don't even need college if you're willing to use a dictionary a lot. The hands-on lab experience is the most helpful portion of college chemistry if cooking is your ambition.

The difficulty is getting all the equipment and reagents that you need.

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Also, what would I have to major in to make something like this and manufacture LSD?



At risk of stating the obvious: Chemistry. Though to be honest, majoring in chemistry just to get the know-how to cook LSD is a pretty dumb idea. You cna learn the relevant info on your own, no need to drop thousands of dollars and four years into college on top of the investment you'd have to put in to getting the equipment and chems.

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: skin_]
    #10097838 - 04/02/09 10:15 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Dude I'm just wondering.
I know chemistry, but what in that field ?

How can I really learn it on my own without any of that? How do I get the chemicals?

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097850 - 04/02/09 10:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

you don't need a degree but you're not going to make something like lsd without a lot of lab experience and well...a lab.  If you're looking for something you can do at home, try dmt, mdma, meth, maybe even methcathinone, but for someone like you, don't expect to be producing any lsd anytime soon.

Also, even if you had the right major to make or posses LSD, chances are you would still never get the licensing needed.


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
    #10097860 - 04/02/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I thank hes a :puppetmaster: A mod needs to look at him

Take a look at his rating and eye of the world...


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #10097867 - 04/02/09 10:19 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Chem is a difficult major as well, I'm sure you can back me up.

There are alot of really smart people I know in my classes and others that really struggle especially with orgo.

and frankly OP judging by your posts if you aren't 12 you probably dont have what it takes to major in chem.

Sorry.


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097873 - 04/02/09 10:19 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I can back you up on that awesomebastard. I found it to be a lot of effort.  I wouldn't call it difficult in the usual sense, but it takes a damn lot of tenacity. And there were definitely a lot of intelligent people who really struggled with some of the courses. And of course, some people just find they aren't suited to the hands-on lab stuff (I recall an otherwise very intelligent girl spilling a picric acid solution and wiping it up with paper towels!!!! :eek:)

Jesterjester, I hate to burst your bubble, but..... If you have this much difficulty finding easily-available information using a simple search engine, there's no way in hell you're ever going to be able to pull of an LSD synth.

And to be clear, I'm not saying it's difficult; it's really not, the difficulty is vastly over-exagerated. But it does require critical thinking and the ability to use the resources at your disposal.

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #10097881 - 04/02/09 10:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I smell :puppetmaster:


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
    #10097884 - 04/02/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ok but how would I get ahold of these chemicals?

If not LSD, then what is a easy thing that I could manufacture at home?
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you don't need a degree but you're not going to make something like lsd without a lot of lab experience and well...a lab.  If you're looking for something you can do at home, try dmt, mdma, meth, maybe even methcathinone, but for someone like you, don't expect to be producing any lsd anytime soon.

Also, even if you had the right major to make or posses LSD, chances are you would still never get the licensing needed.



dtm? I would love to make that. Can someone help me with that?

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097896 - 04/02/09 10:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Just curious. Can you extract LSA from HBWR seeds or MG seeds and then make LSD from it?




sorry to skip the whole thread but
..you piece of shit


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: samba_lightning]
    #10097901 - 04/02/09 10:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

:ilold:


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #10097902 - 04/02/09 10:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I can vouch for that, I'm back in school now as a chem major after a three year hiatus...I'm not looking forward to how much work I'm going to have to do.  I breezed through orgo one without even studying, but I'm going to have to review the shit out of it before attempting orgo two... :facepalm:  I don't remember any of my reaction types.


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
    #10097914 - 04/02/09 10:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yikes.

Good luck with that.

I would probably sacrifice the time and cash and take it over at a community college or something in the summer.


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
    #10097922 - 04/02/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I say hes a :puppet:

Take a look at his ratings and eyes of the world they both take you to the same place..On my ratings !!


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: tpihkal]
    #10097923 - 04/02/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ok so how can people get ahold of these chemicals?

Then how about DMT? Is that easy?

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097933 - 04/02/09 10:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

My strong recommendation is that you avoid handling any dangerous chemicals. You sound like you're more apt to hurt yourself or others than successfully cook anything.

Also, there's a handy website you might want to be aware of... they've got shitloads of info on these topics. It's called :google: and it's always a great starting point.

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: thejesterjester]
    #10097942 - 04/02/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Ok so how can people get ahold of these chemicals?

Then how about DMT? Is that easy?



eat a tonne of grass...shit it all out...
im just doing this for post count i give up lol...¬¬


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
    #10097949 - 04/02/09 10:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I say hes a :puppet:

Take a look at his ratings and eyes of the world they both take you to the same place..On my ratings !!




I got a suspicion you're right. But if he is, then his puppeteer is good about using a proxy, his puppet check is clean :shrug2:

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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Brainiac]
    #10097960 - 04/02/09 10:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

you think I'm a puppet?!?  Either you're crazy or not using your quick reply buddy...


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Re: Is it possible to make LSD from LSA? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #10097963 - 04/02/09 10:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I think he's just genuinely retarded.

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