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    #10070812 - 03/29/09 10:50 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

Im very new at this and so scared that Im going to fuck it up. Let me catch you up to where Im at. About a week ago I started 5 LC's 4 of them are doing very well as the other doesn't have much growth. I dont see any contam in any of the LC's but I dont know if I really know what Im looking for. Since the 4 jars of LC's are almost a 40% mycellium  of the jars I prepped and pc'd 12 brf cakes. Im using a TiT incubator cuz my house is kinda drafty, and the ambient temp is in the low 60's. I plan on using the Shotgun tek for a FC.

Any "good" advice would be much appreciated

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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10070834 - 03/29/09 10:54 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

seems like you have it under control. what do you need advice on? be more specific


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Re: noob [Re: AngryPhil]
    #10070858 - 03/29/09 10:58 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

idk maybe any common first-timer errors?

I just keep getting this feeling like Im going to screw it up and end up with 12 contaminated jars

Also I did some reading on LC's and so if this liquid is clear with tufts of mycellium floating around im good yes?

Edited by n3kkidninj4 (03/29/09 11:04 PM)

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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10070900 - 03/29/09 11:04 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

Think happy thoughts, if you followed directions you should be A OK!  Good Luck.

Actually I just thought of the first Noob Mistake.. Impatience. Be patient!!! The jars WILL colonize and you will eventually birth them.

GOOD LUCK!!
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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10071218 - 03/29/09 11:52 PM (15 years, 2 days ago)

keep reading around in this forum. if you aren't sure about something, try out the search box. a million others have been at the same place you are and all the questions have been asked and answered in detail. knowledge is power. the more you know, the greater your chance of success. and yeah, patience is also key. when it comes to growing mushrooms, you'll get nowhere without it. don't skip steps, improvise, or experiment until you have a good grasp on what you're doing.


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Re: noob [Re: AngryPhil]
    #10071341 - 03/30/09 12:08 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

post a pic of your LC!


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Re: noob [Re: potatonet]
    #10071935 - 03/30/09 02:33 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

I wish I could but I dont have a camera

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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10072047 - 03/30/09 03:24 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

Now I was laying in bed but I couldn't stop thinking about mushrooms. I was wondering if this idea might for for a bulk grow on my next try.

Substrate:
2.5 parts Verm
2 parts millet
1 part popcorn
1 part rye seed

    All simmered in half strength coffee to full moisture capacity, then drained, rinsed and filled into quart jars then sterilized.

I still am not sure on what makes a good casing

and would I get a better yield if I crumbled and cased my brf cakes

Edited by n3kkidninj4 (03/30/09 03:46 AM)

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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10072112 - 03/30/09 04:11 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

With your LC;s test them first on just 1 jar of substrate to make sure they are clean. With LC's its very hard to spot contamination. With LC moulds wont sporolate in liquid culture, so you can have what looks like mushroom mycelium but could be mould, as mould mycelium is white also.

If you followed good sterile procedures and your syringe is good, you should be OK, but test the LC;s first.

The mixture you are talking about would still be considered as spawn and not bulk substrate. Bulk substrate is something like coir, hpoo, straw that has been pasturised and you mix at a 1:3 ratio with your spawn.

You dont need to verm in grain jars. Once its fully colinised, you can either, spawn your grain to bulk sub, case your grain or mix it with verm to do a rez effect.

Leave your cakes as cakes, crumble and casing doesnt improve yeilds, and it just addds another vector for contamination without any gains. When you crumble cakes, time and energy is wasted repair the mycelial network. Dunk your cakes 1 week after full colinisation, then roll in dry verm. After 30 minutes, give your terraium a good spray to moisten all the dry verm.

shotgun fruiting chamber built as per the tek works great, for cakes and cased substrates.

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the terrarium tek is there


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Re: noob [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10072117 - 03/30/09 04:13 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

A good casing layer is the 50/50+ which is peat/verm/lime. theres a tek for it.

Or you can use jiffy mix which is basicaly the same stuff already made up.

Be sure to pasturise and not sterilise your casing layer.


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Re: noob [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10072124 - 03/30/09 04:15 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

thanks I think you just talked me out of doing something stupid

and I already injected 6 1/2 pint jars I didn't get a chance to read your post before I did this, *hopes he will be alright*

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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10072132 - 03/30/09 04:19 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

For cakes, you either spawn them to bulk or fruit as is.

Coir is a good bulk substrate and easy to prepare. Spawning cakes to coir is the easiest way to grow bulk and it gives you good experience for moving on to grain...

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n3kkidninj4 said:
Substrate:
2.5 parts Verm
2 parts millet
1 part popcorn
1 part rye seed

    All simmered in half strength coffee to full moisture capacity, then drained, rinsed and filled into quart jars then sterilized.




Ditch the verm. Grain jars don't need it. Also ditch the popcorn. It's a poor excuse for a grain substrate. Too big kernel size and lousy nutritional values.

Millet and rye sounds good. Remember you will need a pressure cooker for them, unlike cakes.


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Re: noob [Re: n3kkidninj4]
    #10072144 - 03/30/09 04:22 AM (15 years, 2 days ago)

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n3kkidninj4 said:
thanks I think you just talked me out of doing something stupid

and I already injected 6 1/2 pint jars I didn't get a chance to read your post before I did this, *hopes he will be alright*





You will know soon enough, you should have fully colinised cakes in just a week from liquid culture.

Good sterile procedures:

Glovebox, ceaned with soapy water and in a draght free area
alcohol clean your lids and gloved hands
flame sterile your needle red hot before each jar


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Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek

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Re: noob [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10084403 - 03/31/09 11:12 PM (15 years, 21 hours ago)

alright to catch up.

I took a look at the jar today and most of the have about half an inch growth in the area I inoculated although a few spots show no growth. Was this because the liquid I got out of the Lc was mainly water. I still put about two cc's in each spot though, that should have been enough right?

Now how do I tell the difference between mold and mycelium in the early stages, will it grow faster?

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