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i want to grow enough to keep me set for life
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if this isnt advanced move it please but what would you guys to if you wanted to go one round so you would have enought to last you for at least 5 years what would you recomend


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ereh kcilc This thread is along the same lines as what you are asking...maybe it can help you out

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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>i want to grow enough to keep me set for life

You mean to make you sentenced to life .


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Anno]
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nah im just too paranoid to have it goin constantly i just want something to get me a good amount for a while


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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get a farm and some cows...


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Cow Shit Collector]
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lol i live in washington nothing good grows outta cow poop around here


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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bump im serious can anyone give me a stright answer


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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Well, you rent yourself an apartment, buy 50 lbs of millet and the biggest pressure cooker you can find..

Sterilize a few dozen pint jars and inject them with a few CC's each. Transfer this to a shit and straw mix in rubbermaid containers as large as you can find them and over the floor of overy room in the apart.

Get a few full size humidifyers, min 1 for each room and seal all the windows and doors. Quit your job, cuz you're gonna need some spare time.

oh,,, and don't forget a LARGE jug of vazaline, you'll need it in jail fucker! haha..

cg how's that?!


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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If you want to grow a large amount you must get inventive with the smaller teks that are available to you, not ask someone what you should do. You should already know what you need to do. Read its good for you. Sorry I can be of no other assistance.


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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depends on how much you need for 5 years. List an estimate and that might make it easier to make suggestions.
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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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U gonna trip daily? LOL what fun

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: MycoThaikoh]
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dude i wish i had some grass i live in the concrete jungle lol. wieght wise 5to 10 pounds dry maybe less than that though i dont know i just want something very high yeilding


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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my question would be: how are you gonna keep them fresh and crispy, so to speak, for 5 years?


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: MycoThaikoh]
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where do i work at again ohhhhhhh yea taco bell i think im gonna stay at this apartment for a while :grin:


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: canid]
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in vacume seal bags in the freezer


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: MycoThaikoh]
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i know u should do that on the side like a little project


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: MycoThaikoh]
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If you can create a sterile room and a bunch of those martha stewert type racks... stack up all around the room and add some type of humidifier it might work... Then again, you would need a lot of experience to pull it off.

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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dobie if something were to happen and u got caught with all that weight u would have so much trouble on ur hands trying to prove it was all for personal use ... be careful bro...

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Anonymous]
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no i know ive though of that. thats why i was thinkin of making them all into chocholates and capsules


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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:confused: ...nevermind... :confused:

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: hsalf]
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what are you talking about


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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Capsules don't store well. The destruction of the cell wall in the grinding process exposes more psilo's to faster degradation, even in the relative protective capsule and dark botttles in a freezer.

If you are looking for only 5-10 pounds dry you should be able to produce that from roughly 10-40 square feet of surface area of deep beds of bulk substrate, over 4 or 5 flushes. Depends how good you are. I've seen 3/4 pound dry per square foot over a 5 week flushing period before. at that you'll need 6.66-13.33 square feet of cropping area and no mistakes. If you're pretty good grower, I'd say you'll need twice that much area. If you've never grown on a large scale before, you'll need at least 40 sq. feet. You'll need an area large enough to give you a 5-1 Air to Bed Ratio. Ventilation system to encourage entrainment, while allowing for fine tuning of fresh air, air circulation, air REcirculation as well as temp and humidity control. Lotsa jars, lotsa bags, lotsa grain, lotsa straw/dung/poo/compost, lotsa casing mix, lotsa balls, lotsa risk. A method for preparing all that substrate and most definitely an innovative drying solution.

Thats all the help you should need if you are able to pull it off. Everything else you should be able to find online, in the books, or infer for yourself.

Be careful.
Don't talk about this kind of thing anymore.
Bad for you,
bad for the community.

Oh yeah, you let contamination get out of hand with something like that and you'll have to move out of that apartment.


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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laugh... good luck.

Have you even cultivated at all ? How old are you?


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: baraka]
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im 20 and of course i have before


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: Dobie]
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have you tried simmering millet in a four gallon tub for two hours, draining, placing  the millet in five "grow-pans" with a square foot of grow room[each], wrapping in plastic wrap until cool, spraying the entire suface with spore solution [at least one full print per 10-12cc syringe], covering with an inch and a half peat moss & african violet mix and allowing these little pans to sit until you see growth [keeping fingers out although that voice in your head is saying "look nothing's happening"]

OR

purchasing some p cubensis at your local super k

:grin: :grin: :grin:  :grin: :grin: 

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: spewed 4th]
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No... you actually have to sterilise millet.
Or anything for that matter. Simmering doesnt cut it.

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: spewed 4th]
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spewed 4th, many people simmer and then drain thier millet before PCing it in order to out the starches that would later cause it to clump and prevent effective shaking, not as a substitute for the PCing.


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: mycofile]
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how deep were the beds that the 7.5 lbs came from?

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: hsalf]
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Did you really mean to re: me? Did I say anything about 7.5 pounds?
The highest yielding per unit area beds I've seen were about 6-7 inch deep straw/dung high spawn rate. I've actually seen a 4 inch deep straight straw heavily spawned bed come pretty close though for some reason.

Deep beds, high spawn rates, good pin set, multiple flushes; 1 pound dry per sq. foot is possible.

Unless it's a question about something specific I've already posted, I don't really want to continue this conversation. It makes me very uneasy, for the cultivator considering something this dangerous as well as for the community that allows it's discussion in public forums. When you are ready to pull something like that off, you will already know how. Discussing further almost seems as if it's encouraging it, which I certainly don't. I'm just saying what's possible.


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PM me with any cultivation questions.

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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: mycofile]
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yep ive got all the help i want and decided not to do it ill just keep some pf cakes goin forever if the mods wanna lock this let it be


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: mycofile]
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yes, mycofile, absolutely... if yur ready for something this big, you will already know how. and you'll be in it for much more than the first batch. If you want to be set for life, make an outdoor patch. make a few, make 10. who cares, its outdoors, many shrooms for years. There are outdoor patches everywhere in BC. most arent recognizable as a "patch", just because they've been there so long... it just looks like mushrooms are growing everywhere.



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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: mycofile]
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Myco, would you be able to describe the refernece to your claim of caps not storing well? WIthout even considering freezing, I assumed if they were kept 100% dry, preservation held well, no matter the form (ground, ground in caps, whole)...please explain or refer me to the info. Thanks, --Ec0


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: EcoFreako]
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No reference to cite, just years of experience growing and stashing. I too once had the hopes of growing enough to set me for life before I quite the hobby. Well, turns out that my generosity at festifals and gatherings got the best of that plan, but luckily I've made enough friends in my day to supply me with what little recreation I need these days.

Anyway, yeah, I've stored shrooms for years. Ground up and capped doesn't store as well as whole shrooms, regardless of other preservation methods. My opinion is that grinding the shrooms to powder destroys the cellular structures that are protecting the magic, thus allowing them to breakdown faster. Don't get me wrong, caps store well for months on end just sitting in a jar. They store even longer in a light proof jar in the freezer. But this dudes talking about set for life, meaning he needs to store for life. Dry them fast and whole, vacuum seal them if you can, and keep them in the freezer proteced from light. That's the best storage you can do without a freezedryer.


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PM me with any cultivation questions.

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Storage [Re: mycofile]
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Hey Myco, thanks for elaborating.  Some time ago I thought I had read that they store better in cap form, and this is what I have been doing with my fruits for some time...I am glad you explained that this form would be fine for months...ive no reason to store for years.  I am still curious as to what the causal factor for degredation could be under cool, dark, 100%-dry conditions.  I wonder what kind of loss you found after long term, "unoptimal" storage...? 50, 100%?
Past heat, moisture, and light, what other actions of degradation can you think of?  Mucho thanks :smile:,  --Ec0     


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Re: i want to grow enough to keep me set for life [Re: mycofile]
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i had read the active oxidizes rapidly (am i wrong?)... nitrogen stops oxidation dead in it's tracks in the work i do... it's a cheap gas, readily available, does not change pressure as easily as refrigerants when it's temperature is changed (suggested in another thread)

of course there are many gases that would do this also... avoiding compounds would help prevent your container drifting into a vacuum during temperature changes and drawing in air...  :tongue:

by the way... even though it probably is not worth investing in a vacuum pump and coming up with a chamber to do it in, drawing a controlled vacuum seems to dry out mushrooms nicely... i got this simple idea from another thread... pretty cool... peace     

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