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Offlinesqueakerpie
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White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He Can
    #10080411 - 03/31/09 01:38 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!! UPDATE!!!

The HuffingtonPost.com, one of the most visited political websites in the world, has just posted a version of my commentary online here. Please post your feedback to the Post, and make it clear that marijuana law reform must be part of the ‘progressive’ agenda.

If you thought President Barack Obama’s mocking response to the question of whether “taxing and regulating cannabis would raise revenue and reduce prohibition-associated violence” couldn’t be any worse, just listen to White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs stumble below.





Kudos to the reporters who held the White House’s feet to the fire on this one. First, Gibbs is asked: “When the President said he doesn’t think that legalizing marijuana would give the economy a boost was he giving a political answer or an economic answer? Does he have numbers to back (his position) up?”

The pained expression on Gibbs’ face says it all as he mumbles that, in fact, he is aware of no economic analyses — as in zip, nada — that support the President’s dismissive position. Naturally, we have numerous credible economic reports proving just the opposite. Perhaps Mr. Gibbs would like to review them here, here, here, and here.

Minutes later, the White House Press Secretary appears even more desperate for a place to hide when a second reporter asked Gibbs to articulate the reasons why the President refuses to consider the issue. Gibbs’ response is priceless.

“Uh, he, he does not think that, uh, uh, that that is uh, uh, [pause] he opposes it, he doesn’t think that that’s the, the right plan for America.”

And there you have it. Wow. Such a vapid response wouldn’t cut it if Gibbs was a third-grader standing in front of his classroom, no less the Press Secretary to the White House!

Keep in mind, both Obama and his press secretary knew in advance that they were going to publicly respond the question of taxing and regulating cannabis. They had at least 24 hours to prepare an articulate, rational, and substantive response. And yet the best response they could come up with was snickers and “uh.”


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: squeakerpie]
    #10080535 - 03/31/09 01:56 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

Sounds like he toked up before the conference. It's okay, Gibbs, I get a little tongue-tied when I'm high, too.


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: buddhabadger]
    #10080553 - 03/31/09 02:00 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

Damn, I never relized how rued reporters are...


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: buddhabadger]
    #10080574 - 03/31/09 02:03 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

"I've lost control"

No kidding!

Hah, what a great interview. Arguments are getting weaker and weaker.


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: greenleafhigh]
    #10080600 - 03/31/09 02:06 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

They need to be to try and get good answers from politics.

They shouldn't be talking to this Gibbs guy they should be talking to Obama himself.


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OfflineDesertSolitaire
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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: libertyshroom]
    #10080641 - 03/31/09 02:12 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

That one lady who asked why didn't Obama ignore the question...jesus man that pissed me off


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: libertyshroom]
    #10080689 - 03/31/09 02:19 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

Wow...fucking wow.

"Dammit, you guys dont get to google this stuff to answer your questions"

if our government is using google to run our country then it is a sad day in America.  what happened to expert analysis and research?  This guy is a joke and did a poor job at trying to dodge everyones questions.

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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: DesertSolitaire]
    #10080808 - 03/31/09 02:38 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

I think its funny that they all think its funny...

5 years from now they are all going to feel like douchebags for laughing about the subject.guarantee it.


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: xswaveyx]
    #10080855 - 03/31/09 02:44 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

WOW this will definitely help legalization. the obvious lack of any reasoning against legalization shown in this video should make for
good news

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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: golden1]
    #10080894 - 03/31/09 02:48 PM (15 years, 1 day ago)

Totally took this off norml.org main page.  Forgot to cite your source there, buddy.


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: SolomonTheShaman]
    #10081017 - 03/31/09 03:07 PM (15 years, 23 hours ago)

Quote:

SolomonTheShaman said:
Totally took this off norml.org main page.  Forgot to cite your source there, buddy.




......oops...NORML


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He Can [Re: squeakerpie]
    #10081491 - 03/31/09 04:27 PM (15 years, 22 hours ago)

er, how feasible is this really?

i understand it should just be done, but I think before something was implemented you would have to set up the structure of taxing and regulating weed, how long would this take if they actually did it?

and wouldnt states still make it illegal?


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He Can [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #10081604 - 03/31/09 04:46 PM (15 years, 22 hours ago)

> and wouldnt states still make it illegal?

Some would, some wouldn't.  States like California, that are about to go bankrupt, would probably tax the hell out of it.  When other states see that it isn't hurting anybody to legalize, and they see all the tax revenue that they are losing out on, they will follow.  Even if some states don't, at least when it is at the state level, people can move to a state that suits their position (pro or con).


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He Can [Re: Seuss]
    #10081820 - 03/31/09 05:10 PM (15 years, 21 hours ago)

Question #1: Obamas position on the legalization of marijuana

Answer: He opposes it

Question #2: WHY does the President oppose legalization?

Answer: Much jabbering and blubbering, "He opposes it."

Well done sir, well done.  Any sort of sound-minded president would shitcan this guy YESTERDAY.  I can see how he has trouble thinking of a legitimate reason, aside from bullshit political pressure / pleasing conservatives :wink:

P.S. Cannabischarlie, if marijuana were no longer illegal on a federal level, a good number of states would legalize+regulate it outright, and  the majority would likely follow soon after.  When the sky didn't come crashing down with dope smoking hoodlums raping wives and burning churches, all but the most backwards conservative states would decriminalize/legalize in some form.  As it stands, in all likelyhood the federal government would impose crippling sanctions upon and withdraw funding from a state that defied federal drug laws outright.


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He Can [Re: Seuss]
    #10081921 - 03/31/09 05:23 PM (15 years, 21 hours ago)

I was glad to see the reporters continued to press him for a real answer.  His responses would've given him an "F" in high school speech class, and it doesn't fly now.  That's all well and good that he believes the way he does, but obviously the country that he's the leader of wants an answer on this issue.

I'm glad to see we're slowly heading towards legalization, though.  They know they can't name-off the reasons they've used for years behind keeping it illegal, because we see right through them.  Both California and Massachusettes are heading that way, and a number of states have liberalized marijuana law in recent years.  I think it'll get to the point that the politicians will be way outnumbered and unable to defend their position.  A lot of people (both users & non-users) are of the opinion "what's so wrong with legalizing it?"  There's just way too much information available to the public showing why marijuana shouldn't be illegal.

*edit*  Now if my boss asks me about a new/hypothetical policy, I answer "I don't agree with it," and give the same answer when asked why, I may have to polish my resume...it doesn't work in the real world, Obama, get with the program!


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: thirdeyeparable]
    #10082360 - 03/31/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 20 hours ago)

So we know he opposes it.  We don't know why, but he does.  Even though he has done it before, and could have gotten arrested for it back then, he still opposes it.  Great.

But does that mean he would veto a bill that came to his desk proposing it's legalization?  It feels like he doesn't actually oppose it but just doesn't feel going through the crazy amount of work it would take to actually get it legalized at this point, since there's so many other pressing issues going on right now such as the economy and health care. 

Not to say legalizing marijuana isn't important, and if he was smart he'd realize how helpful it's legalization would be to a lot of the problems we're having right now, but I feel like if a bill came across his desk, he wouldn't veto it.

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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: libertaire]
    #10082429 - 03/31/09 06:27 PM (15 years, 20 hours ago)

Such is politics.  The tremendous amount of political pressure from within and outside a presidents party can easily overcome unopposable common sense...sadly.


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: Dutchie3k]
    #10082897 - 03/31/09 07:29 PM (15 years, 19 hours ago)

Obviously I was disappointed when Obama came out against legalization last week.  I wasn't surprised though, and I didn't lose hope.

Obama doesn't want to be seen as spearheading the legalization movement.  However that doesn't mean he will fight it tooth and nail as the previous administration did.  When the public at large begins to demand it, he will likely come around.

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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: squeakerpie]
    #10083000 - 03/31/09 07:44 PM (15 years, 19 hours ago)

This is Obama's White House press secretar?  Is he retarded?  Shouldn't a press secretary be well versed in public speaking?


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Re: White House Press Secretary Tries To Defend Obama’s Opposition To Taxing And Regulating Pot — He [Re: pothead_bob]
    #10083299 - 03/31/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 18 hours ago)

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This is Obama's White House press secretar?  Is he retarded?  Shouldn't a press secretary be well versed in public speaking?




I'll give Bush this much: Dana Perino knew how to handle the press corps.
She was pretty hot, too. Made the BS she was spouting a little easier to swallow.


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