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madwire3
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6qt tub lovers!!!
#10074382 - 03/30/09 02:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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hello all. yeah another thread about yeilds sorry but yeah here we go..
so I've been doing 6 quart sterlite tubs for my mini bulk grows and since I'm still a noob to bulk I wanted some info on other people yeilds of theirs. I read around .. like crazy. but how about some people chime in if u use those tubs what did u use for sub? spawn? how much spawn and sub... I'm curious to see an average and if u are a brf cake crumbler please add ur experiences since that's the method I've been using.. just wanna make sure I'm not way off.
I am pasturizing cob and coffee right now that ill be spawning to in one of those tubs later tonight... ill update as it goes
thanks for everyones participation in advance
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10074482 - 03/30/09 03:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I end up using close to one cup of colonized grain to four-five qts of bulk material per 6qt tray. I usually end up getting about 32-40 dry grams per tray. (edit: on the first flush, usually get another 20-30 from later flushes)
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Edited by Aircooled (03/30/09 03:13 PM)
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madwire3
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: Aircooled]
#10074520 - 03/30/09 03:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh wow... really filled those up yeah?
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10074546 - 03/30/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I fill them up about one inch from the top. I mix them up six at a time. One PC run = 6 Jars = 6 Trays = 2 full FC tubs. 2 PC runs fill up my FC Space. 4 Large Oven Bags hold enough bulk for 12 trays for pasteurization (I don't cram it in there).
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madwire3
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: Aircooled]
#10074592 - 03/30/09 03:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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good stuff... how long do they take to fully colonize being that deep?
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
everything I say is a lie on here.
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Aircooled
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10074599 - 03/30/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Depends. Usually seven to ten days until they hit the fc. I leave them in the trays until i see knotting then I take them out. My setup favors side and under pinning.
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shroomzey
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: Aircooled]
#10074615 - 03/30/09 03:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I just recently starting using these 6 quart tubs and they are fucking awesome.
I have 40 of them now, hoping to get about 20 more.
What I'll do is drop in 2 quarts of WBS(which is really 1.5), mixed with around 3 quarts of coir 65/verm 20/coffee 10/gypsum 5 bulk mixture.
Then, I just pop the lid on, label the tub and set it on the shelf. 10-12 days later the tub is perfect to introduce to fruiting conditions.
Whats awesome about this is that you can inspect all 6 sides of the block for contamination and to watch colonization without opening the lid.
I'll then plop the substrate block from out of the tub, onto the lid upside down. And slide that into greenhouse, exposing all 5 sides.
After I harvest the first flush. I'll easily inspect in the bottom of the block, and pick any bottom pinning if there is. Once it is picked I'll put the block back in the tub, fill it up with water, and then push the block down gently to help wash the surface.
I cut a bunch of "rings" from a PVC pipe. I put a couple rings on top of the block, and then put that lid back on the tub to push the block underwater. Then just set it on a shelf for 6 or so hours. After the soak, I dump the water out of the tub, pour a bit more in, push it down slightly to wash it again, dump the water, and then put the block right back into fruiting conditions.
They're so easy to work with its awesome.
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Shroominit
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: shroomzey]
#10074629 - 03/30/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomzey, that's really cool. I'll have to try doing sawdust blocks in a few of those tubs.
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Aircooled
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Plus they were the perfect size to standardize my gro. Jars = Trays
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shroomzey
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I wish I had a working camera right now so I could show how modular and easy the rotation is... I first started using this 16 x 16 seeding trays for the greenhouses I built, which at first seemed like the optimal tray, but ended up being a hassle.
These are older pics... I took these when I first tried them out. Right now I have 23 of these blocks in the greenhouse with 16 tubs colonizing on my shelves with my jars:

They stack easy, and you can stack as many as you want.. the lids have little plastic spacers which allow air flow through them.
These are the first MS results: (Keep in mind this block is only like 3 quarts total, with 1 quart of WBS in it, the current blocks I'm fruiting and colonizing are fat and almost fill up the whole tub.




I'm fruiting a clone right now, and an isolate is colonizing. Compared to the 16 x 16 trays, I could fruit up to 18 total quarts per shelf ( times 5 shelves per 2 greenhouses total capacity of 180 quarts.)
Now I can fruit about 25 quarts per shelf, for a total capacity or 250 quarts for my greenhouses.
Easier to set up, easy to inspect(during colonization AND fruiting), easy to introduce or rotate because their small. Easy to dunk. Easy to clean up. Easy easy easy.
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Edited by shroomzey (03/30/09 04:02 PM)
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madwire3
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: shroomzey]
#10074761 - 03/30/09 04:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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holy hell that's a cluster! I like these for many reasons and yeah contam is a top reason... I'd rather lose one of these than a larger mono ya know? all ur eggs many more baskets
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
everything I say is a lie on here.
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Damion5050
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10074777 - 03/30/09 04:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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shroomzey, question did you put any type of holes or anything in your lids for the 6 qt tubs for GE ?
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shroomzey
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Quote:
Damion5050 said: shroomzey, question did you put any type of holes or anything in your lids for the 6 qt tubs for GE ?
Nope, there are little spaces under the lid so that the seal is not complete. When I first tried these I figured that just putting the lids on would be enough for GE due to the lids being an imperfect seal, like same that I would do with mono's. And was worried about stacking them on top of each other, thinking it would press down on the lids and seal them. But they don't, the spacers provide enough for GE.
I picked each tub up from Big Lots for a buck each, btw.
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My Glovebox
Find a respected member of the community and study them. I give thanks to: RogerRabbit, agar, hyphae, Nibin, fahtster, The shroomy 1, monstermitch, FooMan, HippieChick, Blue Helix, eatyualive, mycofile, and many, many more.
Never accept mediocrity, always return the love that is given to you.
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: shroomzey]
#10074831 - 03/30/09 04:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I have the same tubs. I bought 15 of them but wasn't sure about the GE situation.
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Shr00mZ
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Quote:
Damion5050 said: Yeah I have the same tubs. I bought 15 of them but wasn't sure about the GE situation.
ur a smelly enchialopa.
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: Shr00mZ]
#10074918 - 03/30/09 04:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shr00mZ said:
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Damion5050 said: Yeah I have the same tubs. I bought 15 of them but wasn't sure about the GE situation.
ur a smelly enchialopa.
What can I say.
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Shr00mZ
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hello would have been substantial. SOmebody is grouchy today.
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: Shr00mZ]
#10075116 - 03/30/09 04:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Na, just trying to cram for my final tomorrow.
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madwire3
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yesterday I took a bunch of cob with a lil coffee.. pastuerized it and when cooled I added a half pint of crumbed wbsf cake... its one of the home depot 6 qt tubs... how long do u guys think tis tub will take to colonize?.. I know its gonna take way longer due to the low spawn addition
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
everything I say is a lie on here.
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artizen
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10088429 - 04/01/09 04:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think you need more spawn. i wouldn't go more than 1:4.
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madwire3
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: artizen]
#10088801 - 04/01/09 05:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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hah I know but its not a serious tub just another funk tub. just one I can toy with... I can see lots of fluffy spots through the side already... I'm not sure but I'd say theres like 4.5 qts of cob in there so the ratio would be something like 1:18 I think.. I'm not trying to pove anyting with this I just like to gamble and I have tons of cob and spawn going so half pint loss won't be a big deal.
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
everything I say is a lie on here.
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artizen
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10088960 - 04/01/09 06:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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rock on i love a good experiment. i'm trying to get things a little more dialed in right now but, after a few more solid grows, all bets are off
post pics. i'd love to see how it turns out.
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madwire3
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: artizen]
#10089027 - 04/01/09 06:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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will do. ill end up doing the same as I did for the first funk tub if I even get it to fruit and beat out contams.. daily fruit shots... u don't have room for a play project?
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
everything I say is a lie on here.
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: madwire3]
#10089666 - 04/01/09 07:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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actually i have a 36" wide GH but i'm having a hard time getting the RH and fae right by itself. i'm going on va-ca for 7 days in about week and have no one i trust near by.  also i'm looking to do some edibles that have other temps and stuff.
i'm still experimenting though. i just tried that 'grain lc' tek. and i did some wbs jars with the floaters you usually throw out and i do have a sandich bag of brf and a half pint of oysters fruiting on my window and my cool mist set up is kind of an experiment ( i may post a tek on it soon ) and ..... well you get the idea.
my last few brave ones went belly up so i could use some solid success to boost morale.
btw ''funk tub" and "fruit shots" too funny.
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madwire3
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Re: 6qt tub lovers!!! [Re: artizen]
#10089873 - 04/01/09 08:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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ah lots of fun... my current stuff 20 half pints pf colonizing 19 1 pint brf/verm colonizing 2 1/2 pints half full of wbs fully colonized to make myc water a baggy of coir colonizing from a few chunks of myc "just for fun" 2 6qt tubs waiting on 2nd flush of cambo 1 6qt "the one I mentioned already" colonizing 1 1qt tub starting to pin and that's all right now... will be doing more 1 pints in another week and setting up a couple tubs
-------------------- I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR
everything I say is a lie on here.
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