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unidentified mushroom on my cake
    #10074263 - 03/30/09 02:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I went in to mist this morning and found a mushroom growing on a cake that isnt a psilocybe.


I know the pics suck but it has a pink tint to it and has pretty well developed gills on the underside. It's also growing downward.
The cake was inoculated with India Orisso. Just curious if these are bad or if the cake can be carved up to try and see if something else might still grow.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074298 - 03/30/09 02:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

they appear to be oysters, see what some of the more experienced growers have to say


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #10074334 - 03/30/09 02:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I think those are oyster mushrooms.  Looks like you got the wrong spores bro.  Where did you get them?

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10074351 - 03/30/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I got them from hawkseye. Shit, I still have one more cake in the fc that was inoculated with these and 2 rye jars that are ready to go. If I end up with a bunch of oysters thats going to drive me crazy. What are the chances that some random oyster spores settled on my cake and grew? Are they native to the pnw?


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074363 - 03/30/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I've had some "mutant" cubies grow before. Not all mushrooms are perfect specimens, some of them just look really fucked-up for some reason. Case in point:


Yours do look a bit weirder though, I'd wait for some more opinions.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074381 - 03/30/09 02:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I got them from hawkseye. Shit, I still have one more cake in the fc that was inoculated with these and 2 rye jars that are ready to go. If I end up with a bunch of oysters thats going to drive me crazy. What are the chances that some random oyster spores settled on my cake and grew? Are they native to the pnw?




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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #10074390 - 03/30/09 02:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

they may have just sent the wrong syringe. i'm sure if you contact THE they will make good for ya.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074394 - 03/30/09 02:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If your out there, I wouldn't mind seeing what RR has to say about these.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074578 - 03/30/09 03:25 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

They do have a very oyster quality to them, but I haven't grown any that looked quite like that.

Perhaps you should have posted it in the mushroom hunting section and asked for an ID? Might be better to let them grow out a little too (assuming you're not worried about them) so you can see how they form more clearly.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Shroominit]
    #10074595 - 03/30/09 03:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

only one way to find out...om nom nom nom:crazy2:


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: fishy]
    #10074606 - 03/30/09 03:30 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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only one way to find out...om nom nom nom:crazy2:




Quite bad advice. Especially in the area that I live in... eat the wrong mushroom, even just one cap, and we won't see you posting here ever again.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074635 - 03/30/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

What are the chances that these can contaminate the cakes in the fc. Does anyone know if oyster myc grows the same as cubes? Because the myc in all of these grew the same as my cubes.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074664 - 03/30/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Almost all mushroom myc looks the same unless you've seen it MANY times. So you could very well have oyster myc in there.

Also, if it is just oysters, you won't have contams. Since it looks like mushroom fruit bodies, I would say there is a good chance it is not a contaminate at all (unless like speculated some other mushroom spores got in during inoculation)

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Shroominit]
    #10074669 - 03/30/09 03:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone know where oysters are a native species?


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10074819 - 03/30/09 04:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The Oyster Mushroom is widespread in temperate and subtropical forests throughout the world.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10074892 - 03/30/09 04:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Oyster mushrooms are native to the PNW, and my best oyster culture came from the cascades.

However, those don't really look like oysters either, even though they seem to be that shape. Oysters usually pin in clusters and then flatten out later.  I don't know wtf they are, but they're not cubes unless they're some weird mutant shape I've never seen.  I wouldn't eat them.
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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10074915 - 03/30/09 04:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Oyster mushrooms are native to the PNW, and my best oyster culture came from the cascades.

However, those don't really look like oysters either, even though they seem to be that shape. Oysters usually pin in clusters and then flatten out later.  I don't know wtf they are, but they're not cubes unless they're some weird mutant shape I've never seen.  I wouldn't eat them.
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To the OP, I guess that means it's time for you to step up to the level of Pro Mycologist and actually put some spores under the microscope! Maybe then you can get some more information. (I know, I know, we're all already spending all day looking at spores under the microscope... :yesnod:)

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: freespeech]
    #10075083 - 03/30/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I'm going to try to continue the growth to see how it turns out. I'll just take it out of the fc and put it on a rack in the martha and post more pics later. Thanks everyone.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10075183 - 03/30/09 05:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

those look weird man.. yea if you have access to a good microscope
that can deffinatly get us closer to an answer...

keep us posted on how they turn out!!

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Moot]
    #10075379 - 03/30/09 05:34 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It's really strange, because I have just been on the Hawkseye website and they don't seem to sell edible mushroom spores, and they don't sell anything that looks like that.  You didn't mix them up yourself did you?  Whatever they are, it is probably wise not to eat them if you can't properly identify them.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10075466 - 03/30/09 05:46 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

THIS IS WHAT IT IS:  Schizophyllum commune


here's some reading for learners:
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/feb2000.html


get rid of it quickly.  that shit is the most common mushroom for a reason, it's resilient as fuck.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: 5HR00M5N4K3]
    #10075552 - 03/30/09 05:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Interestingly, this fungus has also been known to cause a human mycosis in just a few cases involving immunoincompetent people, especially children. In one case, the fungus had grown through the soft palate of a child's mouth and was actually forming fruiting bodies (mushrooms) in her sinuses!!!



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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10076100 - 03/30/09 07:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

So am i to understand that the spores to these were just floating around and got lucky enough to land on his cakes, and beat out his cubies?  Thats terrible, waiting 2+ weeks for some mushroom that will grow in your kids mouth!

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: poppin123]
    #10076230 - 03/30/09 07:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

That's still pretty cool!
Would look nice next to my Galerina autumnalis!


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: poppin123]
    #10076238 - 03/30/09 07:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder could his spores have come from a wild sample that was contaminated with spores from these?  I'd say it is unlikely that they just landed on his cakes.  I think it is more likely that they were contaminated before inoculation.  It will be interesting to see what the other cakes will turn out like.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10076261 - 03/30/09 07:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm...Id like to see pics of these after they grow a little more.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #10077594 - 03/30/09 11:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

CHECK OUT THIS LINK--->


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7117296#7117296


it's about when a bunch of people were running into 'the commune'.  workman did some work trying to figure out why this shit appears on people's cakes.  it's interesting, and has some neat pics (if you think pics of fucked up grows are neat, haha.)

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10080682 - 03/31/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I bought them as syringes. I don't have a high level of experience but these are about 5th or 6th round of cakes, and I've never had a contaminate, (though I've had a few that just never took), which is why this is weird to me. I would never eat something I didn't know for sure, but I just can't figure out how a cake can start with one kind of spores and grow something completely different. I need to get a microscope, it's the one thing I don't have and would like to. Maybe once they're done I can print them and send them to someone who knows more. I'll post more pics when they get a little bigger.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10080725 - 03/31/09 02:25 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

shit, I just looked at the thread 5hroom put up there, the first 2 pictures are exactly what they look like.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10080750 - 03/31/09 02:29 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)


This pic is the cakes that were right next to the contaminated one. They're pinning like crazy. You can see the ring on the perlite were the contam cake was sitting.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10080871 - 03/31/09 02:46 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

damn thats pretty scary!

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10081648 - 03/31/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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shit, I just looked at the thread 5hroom put up there, the first 2 pictures are exactly what they look like.




Damn, I hope you don't live near me! LOL

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10081772 - 03/31/09 05:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

That's fucked up. Try your luck next time at sporeworks, never had a problem with them.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: ArthurSalenez]
    #10082037 - 03/31/09 05:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I heard sporeworks and ralphsters are both pretty good. I'll try one of them next. My first order from hawkseye worked out real good. It's just these funky mushies on one cake now. I can say I hope I don't see those mushies again.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10082155 - 03/31/09 05:52 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Seeing this happen may be even worse than seeing Trich all over your cakes. At least Trich is expected...

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Sapient]
    #10082237 - 03/31/09 06:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Seeing this happen may be even worse than seeing Trich all over your cakes. At least Trich is expected...



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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: oh_you_know]
    #10082699 - 03/31/09 06:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

does anyone think that if I carve off the half of the cake that doesn't have these growing off of it, the other half will still have a chance of fruiting the right shit?


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10082830 - 03/31/09 07:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Probably not. I'd ditch the whole cake. =/

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Sapient]
    #10084758 - 04/01/09 12:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Seeing this happen may be even worse than seeing Trich all over your cakes. At least Trich is expected...




excuse my ignorance but what is trich?


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: lifeinallday]
    #10084820 - 04/01/09 12:57 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Trich = trichoderma it is green 'forest mold' that is VERY common in many places around the world. It likes to grow faster than out mushroom mycelium, basically killing it off.

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Shroominit]
    #10085235 - 04/01/09 03:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If your getting into fungus, basically, you will see trich in the first 6 months. Very prolific. But when it shows up it's a good indicator that you need to refine you sterile skills.
These unidentified shrooms are growing at a really fast rate now and I'm almost positive that they are the same as the pics that 5hroom showed on that thread link. Tomorrow morning I'll post pics.
Weird thing is, the cakes that were in the FC with the contam are pinning like a mofo. Whatever it is, it just liked that cake and no others. Thanks for the help guys.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10089005 - 04/01/09 06:08 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)



This is 3 days later, if you look at the pics that are on the link that 5hroom put a few responses back, I think it's pretty damn close to whatever the hell those are. I took the cake out and I'm going to trash it so it isn't near my other cakes.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: shinsizzle]
    #10089062 - 04/01/09 06:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, yeah, I'm no expert but there's no way those could be mistaken for cubies. I'd still like to see if they bruise blue, though. :lol:

That story about the mushrooms growing in the girl's sinuses is... too fucking much. :eek:


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #10089113 - 04/01/09 06:22 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, after I read that I didn't want to mess around with it anymore. Sounds like it wouldn't be fun. I'll check to see if they bruise and post more pics but I doubt it will.


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #10089634 - 04/01/09 07:36 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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That story about the mushrooms growing in the girl's sinuses is... too fucking much. :eek:




Hmmm :strokebeard3: I wonder if cube's would grow up your nose?  LOL!  That would be cool. :rockon:

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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10089750 - 04/01/09 07:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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That story about the mushrooms growing in the girl's sinuses is... too fucking much. :eek:




Hmmm :strokebeard3: I wonder if cube's would grow up your nose?  LOL!  That would be cool. :rockon:



get aids bad enough, then stick some colonized grain up your nose to find out.  make sure it's a strong isolate too :laugh:


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: RedDevil420]
    #10089970 - 04/01/09 08:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
That story about the mushrooms growing in the girl's sinuses is... too fucking much. :eek:




Hmmm :strokebeard3: I wonder if cube's would grow up your nose?  LOL!  That would be cool. :rockon:



get aids bad enough, then stick some colonized grain up your nose to find out.  make sure it's a strong isolate too :laugh:



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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: Duggstar]
    #10090031 - 04/01/09 08:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck it, try em out. If they taste like shit, go for it, if they taste like edible, throw em out?


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: ChronicMuffin]
    #10090079 - 04/01/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Fuck it, try em out. If they taste like shit, go for it, if they taste like edible, throw em out?



that's piss-poor advice


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Re: unidentified mushroom on my cake [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #10090317 - 04/01/09 09:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

haha snort the spores and tell us if you die


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