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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #10102749 - 04/03/09 09:36 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Someone who is fully "enlightened", that is one who has achieved what the Buddhists call liberation, or Samsara


Samsara is actually the state of cyclic existence (death and rebirth of the fictitious self, from mind-moment to mind-moment and possibly across physical lives) which liberation (Nirvana) transcends.  Though there is a Kagyu lineage prayer that says, "Grant your blessing so that I will realize the inseparability of Samsara and Nirvana," on a relative level Samsara is not liberation.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Lion]
    #10104383 - 04/04/09 09:43 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

You are correct, I seemed to have attributed the ying to the yang :P. My Indian Philosophy professor would be ashamed hehe


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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Lion]
    #10115290 - 04/06/09 08:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Lion said:
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c0sm0nautt said:
Someone who is fully "enlightened", that is one who has achieved what the Buddhists call liberation, or Samsara


Samsara is actually the state of cyclic existence (death and rebirth of the fictitious self, from mind-moment to mind-moment and possibly across physical lives) which liberation (Nirvana) transcends.  Though there is a Kagyu lineage prayer that says, "Grant your blessing so that I will realize the inseparability of Samsara and Nirvana," on a relative level Samsara is not liberation.




Correct. Got a neat picture somewhere, but I cannot find it. But this will do;



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