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To create a need; is to need to create!
#10073111 - 03/30/09 10:28 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyone here able to make sense of that?
I would like a conversation..
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Gomp]
#10073116 - 03/30/09 10:29 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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PS: I see no need for need..
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Gomp]
#10073128 - 03/30/09 10:31 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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So does that mean you would see no need for breathing air?
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10073695 - 03/30/09 12:41 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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create the need for a conversation
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Mastamike1118]
#10073749 - 03/30/09 12:50 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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need created = desire?
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10074074 - 03/30/09 01:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Desire or not, it is very hard (although I believe possible) to get around the need for food/water.
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#10074964 - 03/30/09 04:35 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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two zen monks sat in a field, one farted, other said "lol"; it was a quiet day. two butterflies flapped their wings and canceled each other out. just let me put the tip in
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#10074994 - 03/30/09 04:40 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: Desire or not, it is very hard (although I believe possible) to get around the need for food/water.
and how exactly would one go about making that possible?
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10075615 - 03/30/09 06:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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the difference between a desire/need and a simple 'choice' is completely personal... one could do one thing and the other could do the exact same but they could be completely different/ opposite ends of the spectrum...desire to action/non-action
Edited by Mastamike1118 (03/30/09 06:51 PM)
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Mastamike1118]
#10075732 - 03/30/09 06:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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what do you think about...
when they talk about things they say things like your desire for same-sex friends is really your desire for a partner (opposite sex) and your desire for the opposite sex is really your desire for the ultimate...
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10075977 - 03/30/09 07:05 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
AlteredAgain said:
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c0sm0nautt said: Desire or not, it is very hard (although I believe possible) to get around the need for food/water.
and how exactly would one go about making that possible? 
Someone who is fully "enlightened", that is one who has achieved what the Buddhists call liberation, or Samsara, has no need for sustenance. I'm not sure if I completely believe this but I'm sure as hell not ruling it out.
Check out this article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gPRSoq8iAWFf-CN0Hv_-35QUXovQ
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Gomp]
#10076861 - 03/30/09 09:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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To need is to want to consume, so to need is the opposite of to create.
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Gomp]
#10077419 - 03/30/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gomp said: Anyone here able to make sense of that?
I would like a conversation..
I need warmth. I create fire.
But is it always so simple?
I need love so I create...
Certain things can't be controlled.
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10078815 - 03/31/09 07:06 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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AlteredAgain said: So does that mean you would see no need for breathing air?
Yes.
Breathing is a conscious choice..
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Gomp]
#10079125 - 03/31/09 09:03 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yet if you chose to stop breathing, your body would die.
Where's the you, when the body disappears?
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10079574 - 03/31/09 10:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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AlteredAgain said: Yet if you chose to stop breathing, your body would die.
If you voluntarily decided to stop breathing, you would pass out and then automatically start unconsciously breathing again.
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: AlteredAgain]
#10080034 - 03/31/09 12:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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AlteredAgain said: Yet if you chose to stop breathing, your body would die.
Where's the you, when the body disappears?
So what? My body dies all the time, that is how I can stay here for such a long time..
Do you need to live? Or do you create that need, by living? Or is need just that.. Need! A human made concept, no one even needs.. :p
I'd say we choose to live, just the same way as we choose to breath..
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: deCypher]
#10080040 - 03/31/09 12:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
deCypher said:
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AlteredAgain said: Yet if you chose to stop breathing, your body would die.
If you voluntarily decided to stop breathing, you would pass out and then automatically start unconsciously breathing again.
Not if you really decide to stop breathing.
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Gomp]
#10081152 - 03/31/09 03:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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its hard to die on the shroomery
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Re: To create a need; is to need to create! [Re: Mastamike1118]
#10081171 - 03/31/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats what otc is for
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