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    #10031763 - 03/24/09 09:56 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Ok si I've look around on here and haven't found to many answers specific to my grow, or rather my friends grow, so I decided to join and post! So my friend is having some problems trying to grow some amazons in grow bags. He's a first time grower. So here's the setup...
We bought some amazon spores from lil shop here and noc'd up three grow bags from sporeworks and two rye bags from mycopath. All five are in a plastic covered terrarium with some moist perlite in the bottom and a heating pad underneath the tank all in a cardboard box for stealth reasons. The tank usually stays between 78 and 85 degrees. The first three bags from sporeworks have been in there for about 2 n ahalf to 3 weeks with no signs of anything except one bag smells like ass so I'm pretty sure its got contam. The two from mycopath have been in about three days with no signs. So I guess my question is what am I doin wrong. Thanks for any help I can get. It would be greatly appreciated. Peace

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10031785 - 03/24/09 10:02 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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timgb said:
Ok si I've look around on here and haven't found to many answers specific to my grow, or rather my friends grow, so I decided to join and post! So my friend is having some problems trying to grow some amazons in grow bags. He's a first time grower. So here's the setup...
We bought some amazon spores from lil shop here and noc'd up three grow bags from sporeworks and two rye bags from mycopath. All five are in a plastic covered terrarium with some moist perlite in the bottom and a heating pad underneath the tank all in a cardboard box for stealth reasons. The tank usually stays between 78 and 85 degrees. The first three bags from sporeworks have been in there for about 2 n ahalf to 3 weeks with no signs of anything except one bag smells like ass so I'm pretty sure its got contam. The two from mycopath have been in about three days with no signs. So I guess my question is what am I doin wrong. Thanks for any help I can get. It would be greatly appreciated. Peace




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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10031799 - 03/24/09 10:05 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

take the bags out of terrarium with the heating pad...
it's too fucking hot in there for them.

the bags will colonize better at room temperature...
like in the low 70's.

throw away the bag that smells like ass.


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10031841 - 03/24/09 10:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

You don't put your jars/bags in a moist environment while they are colonizing. You are totally mixing up colonization and fruiting stage! Go back to reading up on growing mushrooms.


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: German Kahuna]
    #10031859 - 03/24/09 10:20 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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You don't put your jars/bags in a moist environment while they are colonizing. You are totally mixing up colonization and fruiting stage! Go back to reading up on growing mushrooms.




:thumbup: Back to the basics with you :wink:

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: freespeech]
    #10031948 - 03/24/09 10:36 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yup, you're quite lost. ditch the heating pad and just let them colonize at room temp. Start reading.


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: Dr.Myco87]
    #10032187 - 03/24/09 11:17 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

www.mushroomvideos.com ;  this info will greatly unconfuse you.:headbang3:


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: 13shrooms]
    #10032294 - 03/24/09 11:37 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Alright looks like I mixed shit up but hey its a learning process right. Nowhere near ready to quite. Thanks for the help guys really appreciate it. Ill update as soon as shit gets rollin. So do you think the I ruined the bags or will they still colonize if I take em outta there?

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10032447 - 03/24/09 12:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Who knows?  They might colonize and they might not.  I'd say it's worth letting them sit at room temperature for a few days at least to see if they will resume growth at all rather than throwing them out right away.  Definitely toss the one that smells like ass though.

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: infinitechaos7]
    #10032522 - 03/24/09 12:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Right on. Well ill keep em in there and see how shit goes. I can't imagine the new bags bein to fucked up as they've only been in there for a little over two days but I'm sure the others were fucked a long time ago. I'm slightly confused though doesn't shit usually mold better when its in a warmer wetter environment?

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10032545 - 03/24/09 12:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm slightly confused though doesn't shit usually mold better when its in a warmer wetter environment?




yes it does, thats why we let all colonization happen between 70-78*F.  the myc when colonizing creates its own heat thus raising the temp a couple degrees, 81+ is mold and bacteria heaven.


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10032552 - 03/24/09 12:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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timgb said:
Right on. Well ill keep em in there and see how shit goes. I can't imagine the new bags bein to fucked up as they've only been in there for a little over two days but I'm sure the others were fucked a long time ago. I'm slightly confused though doesn't shit usually mold better when its in a warmer wetter environment?




Yes.  That is why we've all suggested that you take them out of the terrarium and let them sit out at room temperature where it is not warm and wet and ready for mold.

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: infinitechaos7]
    #10032757 - 03/24/09 01:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yah man, myc isn't mold; you DON'T want mold. you DO want myc.


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: TheMushMan]
    #10033279 - 03/24/09 03:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Alright gotcha. Damn this place is a lot of help. Thanks everybody

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10060918 - 03/28/09 04:42 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Alright so I cut the heat and took out the contaminated bags and my other two new rye bags are colonizing really quick. Nice thick shit too. Thanks everybody. Now my next question is should I case or grow invitro and if I do what's the best way. Any casing tips would be great

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10061081 - 03/28/09 05:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

another thing, if you fruit in the bags, you dont even need them in any sort of fruiting chamber. THEY ARE the fruiting chamber.

:lol: @ mold that was funny.

birthing them and spawning(adding the grains to a moist nutritious substrate such as manure) will be your most rewarding way to go, but it is also a good way to introduce new contaminations to ur grow. which we all take that risk, but it would seem you might want to dip your toes in a lil first b4 plunging into the deep end. entirely up to you though.

are the bags ur using straight grain, or is there other things in it?


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: just me]
    #10061197 - 03/28/09 05:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmmmmm, time to take my jars out of the 86-87 degree incubator...  I could have saved like $40 bucks on the Tupperware, and fish tank heater...  ah, wall-mart will take 'em back... :smile:  thanks for the advice guys!  (even though it wasn't directed towards me)

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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: brndnrchrdsn]
    #10062446 - 03/28/09 08:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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86-87 degree incubator...





ohhhhhhh that pooor mycelium

now you can sue walmart bcuz their product endangered your pets


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: just me]
    #10062490 - 03/28/09 09:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

your frying that shit with the heating pad, i did the same think to a jar once, smells bunk as fuck. You might want to retry?


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Re: so f***in lost...help [Re: timgb]
    #10062657 - 03/28/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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timgb said:
Alright so I cut the heat and took out the contaminated bags and my other two new rye bags are colonizing really quick. Nice thick shit too. Thanks everybody. Now my next question is should I case or grow invitro and if I do what's the best way. Any casing tips would be great



Spawn to bulk.  Coir is nice.  Check out large_dose's tek for spawning to coir.  You dump a gallon of boiling water into a bucket with the coir, mix it up and let it sit until it cools.  Then mix it up with your grains and let it colonize that.  More mushrooms that way.

Read the tek for detailed instructions though.


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