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    #10060438 - 03/28/09 03:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060489 - 03/28/09 03:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Super thank you for posting this on the boards this should almost be stickied due to the fact that all of his arguments are well thought out with research backing all of his points. If any post to present to people wondering about marijuana I would refer them to this first.

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    #10060497 - 03/28/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060499 - 03/28/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

you must love marijuana just as much as me and the next guy :thumbup:

you and i know whats being done towards cannabis and it's potential is bullshit
all we can do is try to educate others who have not educated themselves on the matter.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060522 - 03/28/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

that took me a few to read but i just kinda gazed through it,im way to stoned right now


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: D_S_G]
    #10060528 - 03/28/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Very good post, 5 Shrooms 4 u.

I also agree, that this should be stickied.


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    #10060548 - 03/28/09 03:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060554 - 03/28/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

.....Right on!

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060598 - 03/28/09 03:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

As a representative from the Growery I present...



:handth:

pretty thorough job there.  I've never been over to the dailykos, and that didn't take very long to read.  Nice job!  I hope everyone reads that. 


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    #10060638 - 03/28/09 03:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060780 - 03/28/09 04:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for this post. You presented a lot of good information.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060834 - 03/28/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Great read and a wonderful write up.  If you don't mind I'd like to submit the Daily Kos article to reddit and digg for greater awareness and see if it goes anywhere, if it hasn't been submitted already.

Nice job :thumbup:


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: jazzillion]
    #10060848 - 03/28/09 04:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Excellent post loaded with facts.......:greenthumb:


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060852 - 03/28/09 04:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

There never seems to be much honesty when it comes to MJ.

Its one complicated subject, usually people swing to one extreme or the other depending on their bias.

To sum up my personal views though, I don't think any drug should be illegal that just makes the problem worse.

Its crazy that alcohol and tobacco can be legal but MJ not.  I don't know what the reasons for this are - the only ones I can think of are sinister.

When it comes down it, people follow trends.  Thats how brand names are so successful at parting you from your money.  For the majority who don't smoke MJ its as simple as following the common trend that drugs are bad without anymore thought on the matter.

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    #10060951 - 03/28/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10060999 - 03/28/09 05:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Great post. Its always nice to see someone eloquently representing pot smokers with facts and logic.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10061041 - 03/28/09 05:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I think I changed a lot of minds on dailykos.




I hope so, good work school boy :grin:

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    #10061063 - 03/28/09 05:19 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm stickying this because I can and it's awesome.


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    #10061144 - 03/28/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10061327 - 03/28/09 06:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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I've given this talk to many, even groups of people, at my university.





I've given this talk to cops, it's led many to look deeper into the
issue, there's still those that choose to remain ignorant...

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10061937 - 03/28/09 07:41 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

and that's exactly what we all should be doing.  :gethigh:


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    #10062443 - 03/28/09 08:59 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Bravo man, bravo  :gangsta:

I'm going to repost this in a few places :thumbup:


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    #10062540 - 03/28/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Same here :thumbup:

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10063491 - 03/29/09 12:07 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

well done!  very good read.  i commend you on your talent and effort.

though i must say, this guy made some good points too.


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They were laughing about the obviously fixed.  Internet poll, not at pot smoking itself (otherwise Obama would have been laughing at himself).  Obama isn't just someone who smoked just once or twice in his life, he has more personal experience with it than any President we've ever had, and I don't see any evidence that he personally believes people should go to jail for it; I'm a daily smoker myself, but if I were President in this environment of immediate health care, energy, and economic problems, I wouldn't be bringing up the issue in the first six months, because I actually would want to succeed.  Bringing it up now would be counterproductive.

But hey, the pessimistic assumption wins the day here, of course - it wouldn't be dailykos otherwise :smile:




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Yes, but things must be done in some order. I do not think bringing up legalization before further addressing his campaign promises on universal health care, energy, and the economy would bode particularly well for Obama or for legalization.  (However, if we are substantially into the term of a popular Obama Presidency where the major issues have been substantially addressed to some degree, and legalization has not been brought up, I'll be singing a very different tune.)





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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10064211 - 03/29/09 03:44 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for sharing supernovasky! It was a great read and I commend you for furthering the effort to inform those who are still blind to the facts at hand. :thumbup:


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    #10064408 - 03/29/09 05:28 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i thought this was going to be about how people should stop smoking so much weed.


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    #10064757 - 03/29/09 08:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Almost anything you do nowadays supposedly puts you at risk of getting cancer. Hell, don't even think about stepping outside of your house into the sunlight without sunblock on. Then there's marijuana, which is believed by many to be cancer-causing and horrible for your health when actually THC has ANTI-carcinogenic properties.
How...ironic? :stoned2:

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    #10065242 - 03/29/09 10:25 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10065651 - 03/29/09 11:51 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Let's not forget he's a politician.  He's got a Karl Rove whispering in his ear too.  I doubt that guy is telling him to steer toward this debate.  It's a controversial subject and we are doing what we need to do to get the truth out there.  I think as long as we keep doing that it will come with time.  I agree with ShadowSD about the wait, although 6 months seems arbitrary.  Alcohol prohibition wasn't repealed until more than 4 years after the stock market crash.  It's not going to be something that gets resolved for a while longer.  Personally, I understand why the question was asked at that townhall event last week, I just wish it would have been presented in different context.  What politician with real power (and a concern for re-election) would say, Yeah, let's legalize weed to save the economy.  None.  I just thought that we should have voted up a better question.  I can't blame Obama for understanding and playing the system.  I can blame him for unnecessarily mocking the IDEA though.


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    #10066170 - 03/29/09 12:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

At least the Dems are safe in the knowledge that the GOP alienates that same demographic far more.


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10067022 - 03/29/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

:awesome: article has been linked to my facebook, I'm trying to find more places I can throw up some links.  I may have to print that off and pass it around some as well.


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    #10067239 - 03/29/09 02:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

:headbanger:  That's great, I'd like to spread it more if I can, come to think of it, I have an account at bluelight, I'll head over there too.


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #10070892 - 03/29/09 11:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I like the post.


You don't overstate the position, and focus on what, sadly, the majority of the population cares about: marijuana giving you cancer or turning you into a maniac.  Obviously it is morally reprehensible for locking up or stealing from someone who causes no harm, but the public doesn't care about philosophy- the debate seems quite utilitarian- in the worst of ways.


I like how you didn't repeat the myths that cause marijuana has a high LD50 it won't hurt you or whatever.  Marijuana is clearly a very safe substance, but people like to make silly claims that hurt the cause, so I'm glad you refrained from easily disproven claims that could weaken the impact.




The testicular cancer study that didn't control for tobacco use is all too common as a mean to prop up ridiculous prohibitionist claims.  I've looked at many, and the news and political coverage of them is disgusting.  Obviously marijuana users are more likely to be users of other drugs, and some of those drugs and means of ingestion, such as tobacco, have serious problems associated with them.



Thanks for the good read.  I was presently surprised not to find a bunch of gibberish about marijuana being impossible to die from or other, incorrect, irrelevancies.

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    #10073829 - 03/30/09 01:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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John, I really appreciate your comment here. I understand that you seem to play the devils advocate a lot on this issue, but to hear a compliment from you actually means quite a bit to me with respect to the facts and information behind marijuana. I think we're making a LOT of progress lately, and if anything happens it will all happen really quickly IMO. Once the first state legalizes, it'll force everyone to take a position pretty fast.






Well thanks for the kudos.


I don't generally take positions as the devil's advocate on this issue, though people often think my arguments mean I'm against legalization or something which is incorrect.  I just think it is harmful to overstate a position as contentious as this.  People already believe nonsense from teh government and culture and if you state something that can be disproven the whole argument appears tenuous.

I also don't like how some folks try to clearly delineate marijuana's harm potential from other drugs.  I just don't see a bright line, like the folks who claim marijuana doesn't produce withdrawal or addiction or something do, and think locking someone up who hasn't harmed anyone and branding them a criminal is wrong.    You didn't falsely claim some difference between marijuana and other "drugs", which I liked.


And yeah, I'll have to read that testicular cancer study.  That's one of the biggest problems in teh debate.  The lay public will believe "science" only to them science is what the news says.  They make no effort to understand statistics or the difference between data and conclusions, and as a result there's a number of bullshit refutations of the legalization argument premised upon studies of the type you mention.  It should be obvious to everyone that the population who smokes marijuana and the population who doesn't is quite different, especially at younger ages, and studies that only look at teh differences between the two are almost never going to uncover an effect of marijuana smoking, in my opinion.


I really like how you touched on the problem of third variables in studies, briefly.  Its amongst the most damaging, superficially, things in teh public debate.  All you need to do is read a newspaper account of a study and then read the actual study.  With drugs its almost always sensationalized.


Read this news article and then read further in the thread where I quote from the study.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7796388

Its ridiculous what the headline and tone of the article is when you actually read the study.  Total 180.  The study seemed to show marijuana being maybe a bit safer (though this is specifically disclaimed in the study) but the article acts like its 20 times more toxic- never mentioning they tested one grow of marijuana, for example, or that marijuana was lower in most chemicals including the major carcinogenic compounds.

That is the kind of nonsense that must be fought, as people read articles like that and think they are getting science rather than propoganda.


This post got longer than I expected.  Good job on mentioning statistical problems though :thumbup:

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just don't see a bright line, like the folks who claim marijuana doesn't produce withdrawal or addiction or something do, and think locking someone up who hasn't harmed anyone and branding them a criminal is wrong




Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your statement here.  I've always been one to believe that the ethical justifications of law enforcement arise from protecting society from the individual.  I've never heard an effective argument for protecting individuals from themselves.


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    #10074443 - 03/30/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Very well written, sir . Every time we educate the public legalization grows closer.

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    #10078392 - 03/31/09 03:14 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Hello, my name is ***** and I am calling because I strongly believe marijuana should be legalized. Anyone who believes marijuana is dangerous needs to realize that prohibition makes marijuana magnitudes more dangerous. Illegal pesticides, fertilizers, and even glass dust can be found in marijuana at times for extra profit because marijuana is legal, untaxed, and most importantly, unregulated.






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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: meatcakeman]
    #10079334 - 03/31/09 09:53 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Great post.
I will be forwarding it to alot of my friends and using it as a resource to help further the spread of correct information over in the UK.

A well written article that doesn't brandish false facts with alot of evidence to back up the claims.

Thank-you for this, it is exactly what i needed.

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Look at it this way: if you want to make a baby cry, first you give it a lollipop. Then you take it away. If you never give it a lollipop to begin with, it would have nothin' to cry about. That's like God, who gives us life and love and help just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. You see, it's our tears, Stan, that give God his great power.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10080171 - 03/31/09 12:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Just read this article, well written and gets the points across great. I'm glad that it's received such recognition. Your Gandhi quote is so true and very appropriate...

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you... then you win."

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    #10081111 - 03/31/09 03:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm of the opinion that the issue of smoking cannabis is a part of our basic civil liberties, and that this is about repealing an institution's ability to unjustly and arbitrarily legislate morality.

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    #10084937 - 04/01/09 01:28 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, I posted at bluelight, as well as a couple other places, but there seems to be a lot of criticism because you didn't stay objective in your article, it was a great article and pointed out some great facts while referencing them perfectly.  However, the complaints are that you didn't acknowledge the negative sides to marijuana, such as short term memory problems.

Perhaps you could address them, or if any of you have a bluelight account you could respond as well.  The link is http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=427371


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    #10086320 - 04/01/09 10:31 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Great article, I find drug laws in general (not just MJ) to be laughable.  It just makes no sense (or dollars) to keep a very helpful plant illegal.

Great news on the effect on long-term memory...so I'll be 75 yrs old, smokin with my friends sayin "Hey, remember when we got baked at that Steve Miller concert back in 2008?"  lol


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: thirdeyeparable]
    #10087932 - 04/01/09 03:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome job Supernovasky.  I'm extremely proud of you!  Have you taken the time to email this link to the various nonprofit legalization organizations? (NORML, SSDP, Marijuana Policy Project)


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    #10088339 - 04/01/09 04:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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    #10097545 - 04/02/09 09:36 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Wow! This is some amazing findings from some creditable research studies. Who knew vaporized weed had anti-cancer properties?! Amazing.

Can't wait to tell me Dad: "Hey Dad, you know how you found that homemade bong in the garage a couple years ago? I just used that to take my cancer-prevention medicine, and my plastic bong was my Anti-Cancer Pharmaceutical Delivery/Cooling System. Oh, by the way, sorry for eating all your chocolate cookies. Won't happen again: I got my own Stash now."

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10098713 - 04/03/09 02:29 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

To give my reply.

in my country (the Netherlands) it is legal to buy weed so there's plenty to go around of.

I have been smoking weed for about 6 years now, before i smoked it with tobacco. By the way tobacco really kills the fun buzz of weed you do not get lazy or lethargic from smoking weed!! Anyway after 4 years i stopped completely. because one of my lunges collapsed.

I stopped smoking tobacco but weed did pull through. i still smoke weed everyday and i like it.

Weed is not good. it is HIGHLY addictive. I would like to say its not because i love weed and what it does (perhaps a sign of my addiction)

For example: alot of my friends use amphetamines alot also do acid, cocaine,2cb pcp and so on. Some even tried heroin a couple of times.

Everyone including me has come to the conclusion that getting of weed completely! is just as hard as kicking of heroin. Which is true (for ne) since i stopped using every imaginable drug there is. but weed i cannot stop using. It is so integrated in my life, and the same for everyone i know. everyone smokes weed.

First i thought it was because of the mix with addictive tobacco. not true! i smoke my weed with handpicked herbs, and still I have almost the very same smoking routine i always had. i tried stopping alot of times. but bodily discomfort is very real (unable to sleep, sweat like hell, feeling panicked, down)

I am not for prohibiting weed. the plant itself is medicinal and makes a very good plant for fabrics. but smoking is alot more addictive than people will and want to admit.


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: virus1824]
    #10099129 - 04/03/09 07:53 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say the problem is you my friend, I've quit smoking pot for extended periods over and over again, and I've also spent some lengthy periods smoking several times a day.  IMHO, this merely shows that you're weak, nothing more.


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    #10099155 - 04/03/09 08:08 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

1.i just stated that this is true for everyone i know. i merely giving my point of view. second of all i like smoking pot and im not trying to stop so your comment is not making sense in any way.

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    #10102401 - 04/03/09 07:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

great article mate....Keep up the good work!

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    #10104607 - 04/04/09 10:53 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Very impressive, man, thanks for taking the time to compile this!  I can see why it received so many responses. 


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    #10114741 - 04/06/09 04:23 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

After years of smoking practically daily, I got co-addicted to this game:

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Bal0n]
    #10122276 - 04/07/09 10:11 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

hey man good post, the marijuana laws in this world need to drastically change, i liked they way you compiled all this info hopefully it will do some good

off to write my english paper on the legalization of marijuana ;P

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    #10124295 - 04/07/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

marijuana = win

what do you think "the burning bush" was made of when God talked to Moses? probably cannabis

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    #10132940 - 04/08/09 08:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

good job bro, keep your work up. Someone has to represent.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: euphoric]
    #10133267 - 04/08/09 10:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quoting bd17:

"what do you think "the burning bush" was made of when God talked to Moses? probably cannabis"

Its funny you say that because comedian Jim Gaffigan makes a joke about this same thing in his stand-up special "Beyond the Pale". He said something to the likes of:

"[Jim speaking as Moses] I just talked to God today, and He spoke to me as a burning bush."

[Jim as one of the Apostles responding] Sure...sure ya did Moses... Moses, we think you've been burning some bush [said sarcastically, as he puts an imaginary joint to his lips]."

Pretty classic stuff. It was actually his closing joke, which I think is ganja-rippin' good!


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #10136110 - 04/09/09 12:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

fuck ya'll. i live in humboldt and don't want to see our local economy collapse cause ya wanna smoke legally..
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    #10141755 - 04/10/09 11:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome write-up.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10149548 - 04/11/09 09:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

see its stuff like this that all the "anti" marijuana politicians and parents out there who are to stubborn to think twice about marijuana need to read. only problem is that they think all this is BS. and its not, these are medically trained doctors who know what there talking about, not some parent who got brainwashed by all the anti drug companies and all that bullshit and think weeds a life ruiner.. ill be using alot of these facts on my future arguements. thanks :rasta:

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10175827 - 04/16/09 01:36 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

a noob so im not sure if this will post in the right spot but oh well :smile:

my opinion is everyone should just grow/smoke/whatever with weed like there was no law ever against it.. if everyone just does it, then what can be done about?? put everyone in jail? lol


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    #10176324 - 04/16/09 06:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Namaste :smile:

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    #10177173 - 04/16/09 11:08 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

amazing. I will be posting this to as many websites as I can. Thank you so much. 5 shrooms to you :smile:.


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10188026 - 04/18/09 01:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Basically I see two reason to legalize drugs.


1.  It is not a legitimate infliction of force to ban drugs.

2.  It is not practical.



Basically I don't think people really care about 1.  maybe they've not thought about it or not been exposed to it, but i never see it discussed.


You touched on 2, but i think 1 would be something to discuss as well, specifically the legal complications.



There is this myth that marijuana convictions don't carry consequences.  That should be dispelled.


People, for whatever reason, imagine the only consequence of conviction is the sentence and disregard collateral consequences such as employability, licensure, use in legal proceedings such as custody disputes, and similar things.  Some may e touchy arguments due to many of the opponents view that there is somehow no way to prevent marijuana use by parents if it is legal, but whatever (should just enforce the child abuse laws we have now.  Exposing your child to drugs is abuse in many situation and so is not feeding them cuz your jonesing for your marijuana fix.  its a nonissue).



So I think discussing how the jailing, fining, and branding of marijuana users, sellers, and producers is wrong and could be discussed.


Additionally, it would be good to approach a component of number 2 that is all but ignored due to retarded thinking by folks.


"If we make marijuana legal children will do it/everyone will do it".


Discussing the studies and antecdotal evidence that legality or decriminalization allows greater control and does not lead to higher use among any age range, including children, would be a start.  Then with this lower use the concurrant increase in quality and accountability by the manufacturer's and sellers would provide for a much more practical drug policy (even if we continue oru present course of presuming the government has the right to enforce victimless crimes with jail and property seizure).


So discuss:

a)  the myth that marijuana laws are relativly harmless and not a serious problem as well as collateral consequences to conviction and,
b)  the evidence that legalizing or decriminalizing provides both greater control, quality, and does not result in higher use amongst any age range.  (portugal, amsterdam, and other countries have some comparitive studies that may be useful)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: johnm214]
    #10192905 - 04/18/09 11:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i think the goverment is stupid not to legalise marijuana and various other drugs, all they have to do is just copy the anti-tobacco model.
cover it in warnings, tax the fuck out of it and have a health segment now and then on a current affairs show warning of the 'dangers'

economically they are vastly better off legalising it.

but really, theyre not ever going to change the laws, dream all your like, no president would be willing to change the laws because its political suicide, theyd rather make a difference in another way


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    #10198649 - 04/19/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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i think the goverment is stupid not to legalise marijuana and various other drugs, all they have to do is just copy the anti-tobacco model.
cover it in warnings, tax the fuck out of it and have a health segment now and then on a current affairs show warning of the 'dangers'

economically they are vastly better off legalising it.

but really, theyre not ever going to change the laws, dream all your like, no president would be willing to change the laws because its political suicide, theyd rather make a difference in another way




i disagree... its not going to happen fast and its not going to be said by the president... but there are already i think 6 states (dont quote me on that im not 100% sure) that have leagalized it for medical purposes, its gunna happen very slow state by state but things are changing almost everyone smokes now just be patient give it about 10 or 15 years and the youths of the nation will be in control things will change thats a garuntee my friend!!........
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    #10199695 - 04/20/09 04:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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supernovasky said:
However, you might quickly learn that common sense is not exactly the best way to approach marijuana related issues.




Uncommon sense will alert you to the fact that when potasium or sodium hydroxide meet with the fat then a soap is formed that produces scum.

Is it a wonder then that detergents are prefered even tho they are a threat to the environment?

Pot and sodomy will always be demonized by those who stand to lose the most.

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    #10234985 - 04/26/09 04:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Uncommon sense will alert you to the fact that when potasium or sodium hydroxide meet with the fat then a soap is formed that produces scum.

Is it a wonder then that detergents are prefered even tho they are a threat to the environment?

Pot and sodomy will always be demonized by those who stand to lose the most.




I see what you did there. :stoned:


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    #10244035 - 04/27/09 04:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Woah, an extremely backed up argument you have there. Thanks for sharing it. :smile:


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Lutwidgee]
    #10252573 - 04/28/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

New member weighing in: weed is great and nothing about it deserves prohibition. But y'all know that.

Seriously though, is there any better way to relax at the end of a long week? (or day)
Smokin' a bowl on friday afternoon and lying in the sun is one of those simple pleasures that I'd hate to go without.


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    #10264505 - 04/30/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the reminder.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10266243 - 04/30/09 10:50 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I bookmarked this. Thanks for posting. :grin:


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Florida]
    #10266775 - 05/01/09 12:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes there is something better.. a couple beers and a couple shots...

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10282039 - 05/04/09 02:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I have known for a long time that marijuana doesn't cause cancer, but i never knew it could help fight it. Your post has open my mind even further and hopefully it will change some politicians views aswell.

Thank you for posting this very insightfull article:grin:


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: BuddyWeeds]
    #10284140 - 05/04/09 02:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

nice article


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10287334 - 05/04/09 10:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I used to have an extremely good memory.
I smoke alot of pot now an its shit


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    #10287345 - 05/04/09 10:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10287360 - 05/04/09 10:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i just bought a vaporizer thoughs o im feeling good about that.


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10293349 - 05/05/09 08:50 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

any thoughts on how the obama admin. will treat this issue?
and... "Its always nice to see someone eloquently representing pot smokers with facts and logic"...very true indeed! its not too often you see pot and logic in the same sentence, nice to see that we still have poise and prose no matter our THC content :stoned:

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10293819 - 05/05/09 10:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for explaining this to the world, increase the peace. Legalize the weed.

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Nessa]
    #10294732 - 05/06/09 12:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

leagilse it

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: 890jj]
    #10294738 - 05/06/09 12:47 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i love it

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: 890jj]
    #10303140 - 05/07/09 03:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Very detailed and thought through arguement which has given me a some what overall view with obvious other adding things towards marijuana.
Thank you very much dude :smile::rasta:

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Jaaaaayy]
    #10335878 - 05/14/09 12:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

bump


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10933304 - 08/25/09 10:24 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10933370 - 08/25/09 10:40 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

that was excellent...i read that on kos the other day...so much cooler t know a shrommite wrote it


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Re: Shroomery, lets have an honest talk about marijuana [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #10933402 - 08/25/09 10:48 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if when weed is legal if you will still have to be tested for it with most jobs - since showing up to work high could still hinder your ability to work at your full potential.


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