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Offlinepotatonet
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Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included
    #10056995 - 03/27/09 09:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

OK so I know there have been other threads talking about endospore count and fast colonizing times of BRF.

at my local health food store there is so much crap near the flour that looks like it can be used for cakes or bulk sub. 

Here is my question... can any of these things be used that may be better than BRF, I know BRF is a proven tek and its great, but is there something not as readily available as BRF that may be easier for the myc to digest?

What is the determining part of BRF that makes it so efficient? sugars? proteins?

Here is a list of what I can get:

Flours:
Brown rice
white rice
oat tapioca
potato
buckwheat
barley
white spelt
whole grain spelt
rye
vital wheat gluten
whole wheat
pastry - 4 kinds
garbanzo bean

Other stuff:
yellow corn meal
spelt
coconut chips
spelt flakes
wheat flakes
rye flakes
kamut berries
rice bran
fine coconut flakes

tons of other stuff available by the lb that looks promising. this is just what I could get into my Ipod before the store closed.

Edited by potatonet (03/27/09 09:17 PM)

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057084 - 03/27/09 09:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

its brown rice flour.

http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?productid=4008&cat=107&page=2
you can get 25 lbs. bags.
Honestly I didnt want to read what you can and cannot get. Cuz thats simply not true. None of it. Cant is on in the dictionary of women.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10057122 - 03/27/09 09:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

this is the point I was trying to make... BRF is easy to get, is there something that isnt easy to get that works just as well or better?

I know this probably would be everywhere if it was true because you can order anything in the internet's series of tubes.


just my curiosity I guess.

and the part about me wanting to know what the mushroom needs it just me being lazy.

Is there something else you can add to BRF cakes that maybe a mushie isnt getting that it could use... gypsum?

my curiosity again.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057139 - 03/27/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think it's something worth experimenting with.  I've tried soy flour instead of brown rice flour before, but it ended up contaminating.  It gave it a very different texture, much more airy.

If you end up experimenting, which I think you definitely should, before to post up the results.

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057140 - 03/27/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

there are many things you can add to your substrate.

i like things simple personally.

the search engine should yield plenty.

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: MycoMario]
    #10057178 - 03/27/09 09:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I've never seen BRF in a store. I just got a coffee grinder and i grind up brown rice. i've seen tons of people say that's what they do. it's supposed to be better than getting it as flour because its freshly ground. i think i got my coffee grinder for like $13 at walmart.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: AngryPhil]
    #10057203 - 03/27/09 10:04 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I like BRF. It contains nutrients because it contains the hull and all the good stuff

I've used Kashi multi-grain crackers before. The substrate that it made was a little chunky, and not as "airy" as when I used BRF... much more sticky

They are like, rye, brown rice, wheat, oat, and other stuff, + some salt I think.

People use WBS flour as well. Grains are grains for the most part. From what I've read, the results aren't that much different

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: ABC]
    #10057230 - 03/27/09 10:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I like bird seed cuz I like bulk. But ur like the anti christ. YOUR not hopeful for anything. Denie Denie Denie. You smell that? Your legs r open.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: ABC]
    #10057244 - 03/27/09 10:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think I may try the spelt flour, garbanzo bean flour, and rye flour...

you know what, I think I will get like a spoon full of each thing and mix it with a unit amount of water and determine what is the least sticky. the 4 least sticky will be put into 3 different pint jars and we will see what becomes of this experiment...

I have a feeling that the flakes will be interesting, especially the coconut. high in soluble fat.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057279 - 03/27/09 10:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

BRF is sugar.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057281 - 03/27/09 10:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

and you like stepping on toes... but I dont criticize you for it.

Im a scientist, I like to experiment, not just follow directions. 

we didn't develop everything we have by following directions.

If I wanted to follow directions all day long I'd go live in china.

and I believe if you look in your signature, I am not the only one with my legs open.

Off topic, please refrain from criticizing a question that is aimed at the progression of what we are doing here.

BTW. BRF is a complex carbohydrate and sugar (like you said it) is normally a simple carbohydrate

two different animals


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057292 - 03/27/09 10:25 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I experimented with ur mum once too. You want the ingredients to the BRF>? or wha?


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10057300 - 03/27/09 10:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Shr00mZ said:
You want the ingredients to the BRF>? or wha?




rice?

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10057302 - 03/27/09 10:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

-.- ugh


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10057314 - 03/27/09 10:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

just buy a bag.. cuz bobs red mill flour is a monoply.


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10057321 - 03/27/09 10:30 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: MycoMario]
    #10057338 - 03/27/09 10:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:whack:

on topic....


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: potatonet]
    #10060669 - 03/28/09 03:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: george castanza]
    #10060736 - 03/28/09 04:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ure face sucks:shocked:


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Re: Something more efficient or better for a mushroom than BRF, list included [Re: george castanza]
    #10060740 - 03/28/09 04:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

hey potato

do a few searches real quick

i remember reading about someone wanting to use beans, and why brf is better

i forget what that lil eyeball lookin grain is, the one thats supposed to be a complete protein. something asian. but ppl have tried with that too, with not as good of results as brf

i tried substituting vermiculite, for corn cobb once, didnt work for me.

theres reasons, plesnty of reasons why the pf tek is the way it is.

i thikn for what it is, it has the highest BE that it can produce. remember youre not the first person to notice all these other ingredients right on the shelf next to the brf. certainly not the first to experiment with them.


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