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tangle of lies
    #1005391 - 10/30/02 09:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

are you as slow as a slug on the quest for truth? then won't you jump off the edge of the thread you sew? you know you just might save your lost ass found in a tangle of lies.

this yarn is unofficially tangled in celebration of the philosophy of the imagination of liars and poets (for we are one and the same, and that's a lie too).


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1005554 - 10/30/02 11:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

liar :wink: 


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1006362 - 10/30/02 02:32 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

bokononism would have us tell sweet lies & merge soles...
:wink:
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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CleverName]
    #1007003 - 10/30/02 05:36 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

ain't it the truth?


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: gnrm23]
    #1007016 - 10/30/02 05:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

oh, right on :smile:

A lover's a liar,
To himself he lies. 
The truthful are loveless, 
Like oysters their eyes!


 


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: gnrm23]
    #1007034 - 10/30/02 05:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

n'

"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way."

blessings, cj


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1007106 - 10/30/02 06:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Lies just hinder our fate on the thread of life.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: GrowingVines]
    #1007257 - 10/30/02 07:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

you see....I'm a big advocate of fire.

when i have a knot, and i dont have my trusty knife on me, i use my lighter to burn the rope.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: GrowingVines]
    #1007321 - 10/30/02 07:40 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Lies are magic, they're only as intoxicating as the performer. When the truth of magic becomes known to the public, it's obsolete. Lies are always cutting edge, my friend.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: Galvie_Flu]
    #1007352 - 10/30/02 07:48 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

my, you're so cunning. honest abe.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1007413 - 10/30/02 08:04 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

what kind of Lies are you talking about? lies you can see from a mile away. you dont find too many just honest people for the sake of being honest, i didnt really understand what the hell you were saying, not that i cant gather concepts but the wording didnt strike any logical pattern in my mind. clarify me if you will or try to be clever either one im wont be very surprised. although i see you may be on the threshold of some tangible talkable valid idea. or im just taking it wayyy to far lol.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1009189 - 10/31/02 06:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

"i learned the truth from lenny bruce"
(attributed to paul simon...)


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1009838 - 10/31/02 12:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

"there's lies, damned lies, and statistics..."
(attributed to mark twain)


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1009934 - 10/31/02 01:22 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

as regardie would say "no, no, no! a thousand times, no!"



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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: gnrm23]
    #1009952 - 10/31/02 01:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

oh, 'em truth tellin' congressman sure deplored those lying artists of the era.

i watched _the graduate_ the other day (for the first time) and found myself listening to simon and garfunkel (haven't for years) today too, what a coinquidink. didn't hoffman also play in the movie _lenny_? i haven't had the chance to see it.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1010066 - 10/31/02 02:24 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

no, no, a thousand times no!!!
(i thought that was betty boop again...)
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the gospel according to st. lenny...
oh ya, dustin hoffman portrayed the great stand-up comedian in that flick... well worth seeing (tho there are other movies out there, and a couple-few books too... (paul krassner was lenny's estate executor --- had a book called _the (almost) unpublished lenny bruce_ published, ok...
simon and garfunkle, some good stuff outa that duo (the album "bookends" may be up there in the top 10 of all time (top 25 for sure...) ...starting off feeling nostalgic, for sure...)
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"i have told the truth in this book; and only dead men or fools tell the whole truth. it can be published after i am dead"
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(mark twain to his friend dan beard about _the war prayer_)
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"don't ask me nothin' about nothin'
i just might tell you the truth"
(attributed to the sage of hibbing)


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: gnrm23]
    #1018814 - 11/03/02 05:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

the poet is a liar who always speaks the truth. - jean cocteau

the history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal. - mark twain

there is no worse lie than a truth misunderstood by those who hear it. - william james



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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1018850 - 11/03/02 05:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

there is no worse lie than a truth misunderstood by those who hear it. - william james

Holy shit is that a good quote!
Do you know where it's from? (book? essay? lecture? random quote?)


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1020122 - 11/04/02 06:52 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

"the best way to lie is to tell just part of the truth"
(attributed to robert a heinlein)


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Re: tangle of lies [Re: Sclorch]
    #1021338 - 11/04/02 04:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

There is no worse lie than a truth misunderstood by those who hear it.
The Varieties of Religious Experience ( (1902)) p. 355

The art of being wise is the art of knowing what to overlook.
The Principles of Psychology ( (1890)) vol. 2, ch. 22

Hogamus, higamous
Man is polygamous
Higamus, hogamous
Woman monogamous.
In Oxford Book of Marriage ( (1990)) p. 195


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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