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Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper?
    #1005077 - 10/30/02 12:44 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

SANTA CRUZ, Calif. (Wireless Flash) -- Chew on this: An ethnobotanist in Santa Cruz, California, thinks Jesus was munching magic mushrooms at the Last Supper.
Clark Heinrich says man has enjoyed the psychedelic effects of mushrooms since thousands of years before Christ -- and figured the King of Kings probably turned on as well.

In fact, he thinks Jesus was high on a psychedelic 'shroom known as "fly agaric" which was hailed for its taste as well as its trips.

Heinrich says the mushroom resembles pita bread and when soaked with water it feels exactly like human skin. He figures that's the bread that Jesus was referring to at the last supper when he said "eat this bread, this is my body."

But that's not the only way Jesus might have doled out psychedelics. Heinrich says people who eat lots of shrooms have a reddish-orange urine that's even more hallucinogenic -- and figures the almighty turned water into wine by whizzing into a five-gallon jug of H20.

Heinrich is the author of a new book, "Magic Mushrooms In Religion And Alchemy" (Park Street Press).

http://www.ncbuy.com/news/wireless_news.html?qdate=2002-10-30&nav=VIEW&id=5089GZM56L8021030

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1005699 - 10/30/02 09:54 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

I've read from jamesarthur.yage.net that Jesus Christ was the mushroom. Read the link for more...

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1005967 - 10/30/02 11:00 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

A friend of mine sent me that article earlier today.  It's a joke I think. :confused:


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1006976 - 10/30/02 03:26 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

THAT! is something. I think that Jesus got high all the time with his dog.


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1006980 - 10/30/02 03:27 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Read the comments under that heading on fark.. if you can wade through the ignorance theres some pretty interesting stuff.

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1006999 - 10/30/02 03:33 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

WOW!!!! KOOL!!!!!! :grin: Jesus is awesome!!!! 


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Brukan]
    #1007629 - 10/30/02 07:20 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

i just ordered that book just days ago... i understood theories out there suggested christ survived the crucifiction by appearing dead by using compounds that slowed down his metabolism to a point of a death like state... of course the centurian sticking a sword in his side places a different spin on it... although said to be inspired by god, men still put that book together...

i understand this much regarding jesus of the bible... 17 years of his life was spent in area's throughout asia where he could have easilly gained insights into these enthobotanicals... he certainly developed a keen ability to fuck with the preists in the temple to the point they wanted his ass dead... i hope this book gets here soon ... u got me going now!!!

very cool thread...  :wink:

jesus was a buddhist... peace!



 

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    #1007996 - 10/30/02 09:17 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: bluesky]
    #1009567 - 10/31/02 07:45 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

jesus is awesome!  :wink: 

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Mead]
    #1038811 - 11/09/02 12:30 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Son of God or son of man, if he tried giving me piss to drink at my wedding...I'd have to hit him.


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1039749 - 11/09/02 10:23 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

And when the layer of dew lifted, there, on the surface of the wilderness, was a small round substance, as fine as frost on the ground. EXODUS 16.14,
And Moses said to them, "This is the bread which the LORD has given you to eat."
EXODUS 16:15,

They called "it" mana, and said that it needed to be saved for the generations!

Yah, it must have been very important!


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1039843 - 11/09/02 10:53 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Read the Bible. It is cool.
EXODUS 16:14, and 16:15, Bread from Heaven,







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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1048200 - 11/12/02 11:51 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

damn straight he did!!

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1208711 - 01/11/03 06:25 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

wow, ythan, what a blast from the past.
nice to see you're still around, free and well.
bet most the folks here have no real idea who ythan is anymore, but we all owe the man a real debt of gratitude for both the shroomery and alt.drugs.mushrooms on usenet, as ythan founded both way back when.


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: ]
    #1232303 - 01/19/03 08:18 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

So that's why Jesus said he was the son of god.  And the only reason people believed him was b/c they were trippin too. Now I get it all........................... :wink: 


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: bluesky]
    #1232623 - 01/20/03 12:35 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Listen to King Missile - Jesus was Way Cool

JESUS WAS WAY COOL!!!  :grin: 


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Jaxx]
    #1234691 - 01/20/03 04:21 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Moses did when he went onto the mountain in Eithiopia to recieve the ten comandments he expienced the burning bush & returned with the ten comandments to the base of the mountain where he saw his people worshiping, on the produce of the golden cattle , the ark of the covenent is on a island on lake Tala in an ancient monestry. At the headwaters of the nile,The Rastaman cattle are sacrid man. :cool: 

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Ythan]
    #25983417 - 05/10/19 07:35 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Who the fuck is Jesus ?Damn i forgot about that  comic book character and book thats an old one !!!!!!!!!🌍 = 🔥💀✨🌟💨💦💧🚶💎💔🐶🐻🐽🐼🐔🐣🐥🐸🐢🐍🐌🐉🐃🐉🐡🐚🐙🐝🐈🌺🌼🌴🍋🍊🍏🍎🍉🍒🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🌞⚡❄🌀😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Ythan]
    #27015886 - 11/01/20 02:51 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Ive been looking into this myself, and while some do believe its the fly algeric..I honestly thing thats a misunderstanding...OR he ALSO used Fly Algerics. I've not yet delved deep enough into Fly Algeric so I cant speak from a lot of trip experience with that, but psilocybin mushrooms is what I think was being passed around. There is a lot of old christian art that refferences this, and on old picture of the middle ages, displaying the last supper looked to be some type of mushroom. I looked into what mushrooms are native to Israel area, and there is one type native to there that looks identical to this last supper display.
I believe it was this one
"Gymnopilus Junonius is a species of mushroom in the Cortinariaceae family. ... This large inedible orange mushroom is typically found growing on tree stumps, logs, or tree bases. Some subspecies of this mushroom contain the hallucinogenic compound psilocybin."


I had a very christian religious experience my first true psilocybin journey. Which was my second time consuming the mushrooms. First time was to low a dose to do much. I suspect it was psilocybin containing fungai. I also believe they were an integral part of the holy eucharist, and the vatican decided to replace it with a placeabo eucharist that became a symbolic experience for us christians, instead of the mystical/religious/spiritual experience the original provided.

Obviously I can't yet say this for a fact, but its what Im gathering from the research I have been doing.

:mushroom2::jah::cheers:


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: CoryInJapan]
    #27015983 - 11/01/20 04:11 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

That's a creative way to explain the water into wine miracle in scientific terms.

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Ythan]
    #27053315 - 11/23/20 03:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm reading a book now, which is about the Eucharist (eating a wafer and drinking wine) where it states that the wine comes from an old Greek tradition, which used to use beer in the early days and switched to wine later in which the beer and wine are laced with alkaloids from the fungus of which A Hoffman derived LSD.. : claviceps purpurea
Book is called: the immortality key by Brian Muraresku.
I haven't finished it yet, but it's a good read up till now

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Pieper1973]
    #27053344 - 11/23/20 04:32 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If Jesus

Was Jesus

The way the bible describes and alleges Jesus

He didn't

Not out of aversion but because there was no need.


I've read The Sacred Mushroom And The Cross, that originally alleges the notion and, just no.


I'm OK with Jesus and OK with Fly Agaric but this is a bunch of speculation to serve the pro-drug agenda. One might as well allege that Christ smoked weed.


Its more political/spiritual activism than realism.


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Asante]
    #27053657 - 11/23/20 09:41 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think he did, either.

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Hartford]
    #27054774 - 11/23/20 11:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

While I favor the interpretation that every plant and animal has a beneficial use, Jesus is said to have refused that drugged 'wine of the condemned', supposedly administered via the sponge.

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: durian_2008]
    #27055241 - 11/24/20 10:04 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

His eyes were red with wine at other times, if we can trust Genesis 9:42. So perhaps he refused it because he had completed his task of revealing the secrets (wine being useful for that).

Edited by Hartford (11/24/20 03:35 PM)

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Hartford]
    #27055517 - 11/24/20 01:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

In the beginning was the Word, who would become flesh.

A version of the Gospel had supposedly been taught, since Adam.

Otherwise, Jesus was never directly mentioned in Genesis?

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: durian_2008]
    #27055733 - 11/24/20 03:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Genesis 9:42 is a prophecy about the Messiah. It says:

"42 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk."

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Asante]
    #27056380 - 11/24/20 10:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
I'm OK with Jesus and OK with Fly Agaric but this is a bunch of speculation to serve the pro-drug agenda. One might as well allege that Christ smoked weed.




http://www.kanehbosem.org/2015/04/cannabis-in-holy-anointing-oil-exodus.html

Also, the oil of spikenard is reputed to be Valeriana jatamansi.

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: durian_2008]
    #27057060 - 11/25/20 12:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

https://psychedelicgospels.com/excerpt-from-the-book/





I ran across the ancient mushroom cult during my travels in the realms of research, many years ago. I only delved into it only a small bit but, it was very interesting. Follow the link above, it's a sample of a book called the psychedelic gospels, the link has a few more pictures, showing many more mushrooms.

If there wasn't something to it, those people wouldn't have wasted the time and energy working it into so many different works of art.

Stripping back the foundations of reality and allowing us to experience the energy, or vibration, that is god. Psychedelics are a gift of the creator, to give us a glimpse of what lies beyond this world. Surely that would be worth recording.


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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Brukan]
    #27073855 - 12/05/20 04:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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I've read from  jamesarthur.yage.net that Jesus Christ  was the mushroom.  Read the link for more... 





Jesus was Probably Real

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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: shadyshroomie]
    #27074881 - 12/06/20 09:40 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think manna was psychedelic, it was sustenance in which the people didn't understand where it was coming from. There's a lot of reason to think it was largely made up of fungi, mushrooms, and truffles, But, considering how much "manna" was often a main form of survival, I think if everyone was tripping balls from it that would have came through much clearer in their writings.

Of course Jesus was a real historical figure, but those who wrote about him clearly expressed their artistic freedoms when describing, and the canonized version of him created by the Romans was a composite of many different myths and belief systems from different regions and points in history. Jesus himself never even talked about the immaculate conception, he referred to God as our as much as his Father, and that our Father was acting through him.

I guess you could say my view of Jesus is opposite of yours, I feel more like Ghandi did about Jesus...that he was one of the most important teachers in human history but not divine. Invoking God was just the only way to get people to listen and relate to you through much of human history, and divinity was largely a metaphor for the shared human experience and a way to deal with the natural mysteries that science was yet to explain.

My problem with organized religion, and especially protestant evangelism is their main focus is "faith" and loyality to the church...actually expressing and following the teaching of Jesus(not the church) is at the bottom of the priority list, rarely discussed, and never followed. They have distorted or ignored his teachings to serve their own purposes and politics.

The entire idea that the the "Bible" is the word of God id ridiculous. It allows them to ignore Jesus and focus on the other covenants, while they pick and choose what to follow strictly and literally to serve their own beliefs.

For example, Jesus didn't really talk about homosexuality or abortion...yet those seem to be priority number 1.

Many of their beliefs and practices are directly contradictory to their teachings.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/4-teachings-of-jesus-that_b_6343320

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4 Teachings of Jesus That His Followers (Almost) Never Take Seriously
12/18/2014 04:51 pm ET Updated Feb 16, 2015
It’s no secret that those of us who claim to follow Jesus Christ consistently fall short of living up to the way of life of our Rabbi. Being a disciple of  Jesus is a lifelong journey towards conforming ourselves to the image and way of life that Jesus taught. However, so often, followers of Jesus chose to blatantly ignore some of the clearest instruction of our Rabbi and obscure it with vague theology so that we can get off the hook. Other times, followers of Jesus are taught something explicitly contradictory to the plain words of Jesus and then spend their lives obeying the instruction they received instead of the commands of Jesus.

However we end up at the place of disobedience, all of us who claim to be followers of Jesus struggle to obey the commands of our Lord. One of the most transformative periods in my faith was when I took time to re-read the Gospels of the New Testament and get reacquainted with Jesus’ himself, in his own words. As I studied the words of Jesus, I discovered that so much of what he asks of us as his disciples is incredibly clear and yet so much of it was new to me. I had never heard it in church or Sunday school or actually heard someone teach the exact opposite of the words of Christ. It was during that season of my life where I took inventory of how I lived and what I believed and aligned to the person and teachings of Christ that my faith was radically transformed for the better.

Below I have compiled a short list of 4 clear teachings of Jesus that most of us who exist within Evangelicalism have either never heard, refuse to acknowledge, or believe the exact opposite of. It’s my hope that by rereading these teachings of Christ, you will be inspired, like I have been, to return to the Gospels and begin to reshape your faith and life around the way and teachings of our Master, Jesus. Get ready and buckle up, because most of what Jesus says is pretty bold and potent. It’ll shake up your faith!

1. Jesus, not the Bible, is God’s living and active Word that brings life.

“You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent. You study the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me. And you are not willing to come to Me so that you may have life.”- John 5:39-40 HCSB

The Christian life is one that is fundamentally rooted in the reality that Jesus Christ is living and active. He interacts with us on a day to day basis and desires that we cultivate an intimate relationship with him. The more we commune with the Spirit of Christ, the more life and truth we are exposed to and are able to comprehend. However, for many Evangelicals, we rely more on the Bible than we do on the living and active Spirit of God within us. We fear that following the Spirit could lead to confusion and subjectivity and so we root our faith in the Bible. The problem is that a faith that is rooted in the Scripture alone is not sustainable. It will dry up and wither on the vine. While the Bible is an important and authoritative guide for Christian faith and practice, it isn’t the foundation or center of our faith- Jesus is. And if we truly believe that he is alive, we should also have faith that communing with him will produce spiritual life within us. He is the living Word that we can ask anything to and expect, in faith, to receive and answer. Sometimes he will speak through Scripture. Other times he will speak through our friends and family. Other times he will find unique and special ways to reveal himself to us. But in order to maintain a vibrant and living faith, we must not make the Bible our substitute for communion with the living Word of God. Studying Scripture is valuable, but nowhere near as valuable as cultivating a day to day relationship with the God incarnate.

2. The only way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven is through DOING the will of God.

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21 ESV

“An expert in the law stood up to test Him, saying, “Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?””What is written in the law?” He asked him. “How do you read it?”He answered: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.”You’ve answered correctly,” He told him. “Do this and you will live.”- Luke 10: 25-28 HCSB

“We are saved by faith alone, apart from works!” This is a very popular Protestant catch phrase. The doctrine of sola fide (faith alone) was developed by the Reformers in response to the Roman Catholic Churches corrupted teachings that emerged in the 16th Century teaching that one could gain favor with God and shave off years in Hell and Purgatory by giving money to the church or doing acts of penance. The intention of the doctrine of faith alone was very good- to correct the error that our salvation could be earned or that God’s grace could be manipulated. But like most doctrines that are formulated in response to another group’s doctrine, it often goes too far. One of the clearest teachings throughout all four Gospel accounts is that the way to enter the Kingdom of God is through living in obedience to the Law of Christ. Time and time again, Jesus makes very clear statements that condemn those who think that they will be saved because they believe the right things or do the right religious rituals. Jesus responds to people who believe they are religious and deserve heaven by saying that their outward religiosity is detestable to God and the only thing God desires is that they would exercise their faith by obeying the command of God- to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly. (Micah 6:8) Jesus says if anyone claims to be right with God but doesn’t serve the poor, needy, oppressed, marginalized, sick, diseased, and sinful, then they do not have a relationship with God. No matter what they proclaim with their lips. No matter how religious they may appear. Jesus says those who don’t obey will have no part in his Kingdom. He makes very clear that the way to “inherit eternal life” is through loving God and loving our neighbor. Isn’t it astonishing, then, how many Christians today have been taught that salvation comes through right believing instead of right practice- a message that is fundamentally contrary to the words of Jesus. (And even more to his little brother James who says, “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” James 2:24 ESV)

3. Condemnation isn’t Jesus’ style.

“I have not come to condemn the world, but to save it.” John 3:17 ESV

“Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.”- John 8:11 ESV

Many modern day Evangelical preachers spend a lot of time talking about the kinds of people that God is opposed to and who he condemns. They spend time talking about how to transition from a position of condemnation before God to a position of Grace through believing the right things about Jesus. They often talk about those who disagree or live contrary to their understanding of what is “righteous” as those who are under condemnation from God. But what’s funny is that as one examines the teachings and life of Jesus, we find him not only befriending, loving, and affirming some of his societies most despised and vile people, but chastising the religious leaders who condemned them for their sin. Whether it is Jesus’ conversation with Rabbi Niccodemus in John 3 where Christ explains that it is his mission to redeem the world and not to condemn it or the instance where a woman is caught in the act of adultery and is taken outside to be stoned by the religious officials (as the law required) and Jesus steps in to stop the condemnation and proclaim freedom and forgiveness to the broken woman, it is clear that Jesus is not in the condemning business. Instead, it seems Christ is in the business of restoring humanity to the most broken and wicked of people. It seems that his passion is to see the weak, sick, and broken become strong, healthy, and whole in his Kingdom. It seems that he spends very little time (almost none) telling sinners why they’re wrong or speaking words of condemnation over them, but rather practically loving and extending grace to the most screwed up of individuals. Maybe we Evangelicals, who are known for our condemnation of entire people groups with whom we disagree, could learn something from Jesus on this point.

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4. You’re supposed to sacrifice yourself and speak words of blessings for those you disagree with the most.

“Love Your Enemies and Bless Those Who Persecute You” Matthew 5:44 ESV

It seems like every week there is a new major controversy taking place within the Church. Most of the time, the situation revolves around one group of Christians disagreeing with another and then taking to the internet to write slanderous posts about the other. If it’s not infighting, then it is Christians engaging in culture wars, working to defeat those whom we disagree with politically and socially by painting them as soul-less monsters. But that response is absolutely contrary to the way of Jesus. Jesus calls his followers to love the people they disagree with most and to speak blessings over them when all we really want to do is curse them out. No matter what the situation is or what kind of enemy we have, Christians are called to bless the people who hurt us the most. This includes in theological battles, political disagreements, national wars, and personal conflicts. Christians are called to a radical position of nonviolence and forgiveness, grace, and even blessing of our enemies. There is no way around it. And when Christians chose to ignore these clear teachings, our hypocrisy is glaringly obvious to the watching world. Want some proof? Take a couple minutes to watch this clip of the famous Agnostic Comedian, Bill Maher, talk about Christian’s refusal to obey the teaching of Jesus. (Contains explicit language)


That video may be hard to stomach but Bill Maher is 100% correct. “If you ignore every single thing Jesus commanded you to do, you’re not a Christian.”

The point of this post is to encourage those of us who claim to be followers of Jesus to reexamine how we are living our lives and practicing our faith. It is so easy to get so caught up in the flow that we fail to recognize just how far away from shore we have been carried. The words of Jesus are pretty darn clear, but oftentimes in our zealousness for our faith, we often get pulled away from the basics and eventually end up living in a way that we believe is honoring to God, but is actually contradictory to everything he has taught us.

In this post, I have offered just four examples. There and hundreds of teachings contained in the 4 Gospels of the New Testament, teachings that, if we obeyed, would absolutely flip our lives and world upside-down for the glory of God and the good of all people. What the Church as a whole and Evangelicals in particular desperately need in this age is a return to the plain teachings of Jesus. We need to be willing to set aside out theological debates and meanderings for a season and focus on simply reading, conforming, and obeying the will of Christ, both as revealed in Scripture and as we are led by his Spirit. The world is desperately longing to encounter Jesus through us and for far too long we have been giving them a cheap knock off that we have exported under his name. But it’s clear to everyone that what is passing for Christianity today is almost totally divorced from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

My prayer is that we would all turn our faces towards our risen Savior and seek to selflessly follow his commands. I am convinced that the Jesus’ way is the only way that will heal our broken world. I am convinced that the whole earth is groaning as it waits for men and women to take of their crosses and follow in the way of redemption. I am convinced that when those of us who call ourselves “Christian” re-orient ourselves in Jesus, the power of God will flow through us in an unprecedented and miraculous way that will bring salvation to the ends of the earth. Oh how I long for that day.

‎“Those who aren’t following Jesus aren’t his followers. It’s that simple. Followers follow, and those who don’t follow aren’t followers. To follow Jesus means to follow Jesus into a society where justice rules, where love shapes everything. To follow Jesus means to take up his dream and work for it.”
― Scot McKnight



This post originally appeared on The Revangelical Blog on Patheos.



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Re: Did Jesus Eat Magic Mushrooms At Last Supper? [Re: Holybullshit]
    #27075029 - 12/06/20 10:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

In the original, Hippocratic oath, against harming the patient, they would not administer an abortion drug. When I read of pharmakeia, in extra-Biblical texts, it would seem to refer to a poison.

While the Bible does promote traditional gender roles, the sin of Sodom was that they sought after strange (heteros) flesh. Heteros is a different order of being, that of the angels.

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    #27077229 - 12/07/20 02:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if that was because of the risks it presented to the mother though. Not that I think they really gave a damn about the rights of the mother. Speaking of which, the story of Sodom I think gives us real insight about how the writers of the Bible felt about the personhood of women, so I wonder why we would ever give any weight to their thoughts on homosexuality.

There's also an argument to be made that the sin of the men of sodom was the lust itself, the "strange flesh" seems to be less the focus of the writer as lustful fornication. After all, the focus on and vehement condemnation of homosexuality is a relatively recent development within the church and largely propagated by men who themselves engaged in the act.

I don't imagine anyone familiar with the history of "Christianity" would give a damn about any morality handed down by organized religion.

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1. Sergius III (904-11), known by his cardinals as “the slave of every vice,” came to power after murdering his predecessor. He had a son with his teenage mistress — the prostitute Marozia, 30 years his junior — and their illegitimate son grew up to become the next pope. With top Vatican jobs auctioned off like baubles, the papacy entered its “dark century.”

2. The 16-year-old John XII (955-64) was accused of sleeping with his two sisters and inventing a catalog of disgusting new sins. Described by a church historian as “the very dregs,” he was killed at age 27 when the husband of one of his mistresses burst into his bedroom, discovered him in flagrante, and battered his skull in with a hammer.

3. Benedict IX, (1032-48) continually shocked even his most hardened cardinals by debauching young boys in the Lateran Palace. Repenting of his sins, he actually abdicated to a monastery, only to change his mind and seize office again. He was “a wretch who feasted on immorality,” wrote Saint Peter Damian,  “a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest.”

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