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Still don't know what's going on... Cakes to wet?
    #10048037 - 03/26/09 06:33 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

So this is only my second flush but my pins are deformed and though they've gotten a little bigger the past 2-3days they still seem deformed or underdeveloped. Let me know what you think. I picked the two giant ones when the viels broke. the others aren't ready I don't think.

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: AlienTechKilla]
    #10048046 - 03/26/09 06:34 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm...are they really dry?


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #10048061 - 03/26/09 06:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

cakes get smaller as they get spent, those look like they need some dihydrogen oxide


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #10048084 - 03/26/09 06:39 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Don't really like to touch cakes... just in case. I mist very frequently but I'll check real fast. No, they are definitely damp. Even the deformed caps have moisture on them. The RH is around 99%. Hope that helps.

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: potatonet]
    #10048098 - 03/26/09 06:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Why dehydrogen oxide? What will that do? I'm still pretty new to all this, but I've never heard of that or how I would use it.

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: AlienTechKilla]
    #10048113 - 03/26/09 06:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

dihydrogen oxide is what scientists say when they dont want silly people to hear water.


Dihydrogen = two hydrogens, oxide = one oxygen

H2O or water.

how is your FAE?

have you fanned them? or circulated air somehow?


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: potatonet]
    #10048159 - 03/26/09 06:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

lol.... I'm retarded. They are in a Shotgun FC and I mist and fan AT LEAST 4 times a day if not more. RH at 99% and room temp at or around 70 degrees. I got 2 huge mushies off another cake in this FC but these are just different. They are Hawaii Strain cubensis.

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: AlienTechKilla]
    #10048244 - 03/26/09 07:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

They look like really nasty penises. Something that you see on low budget cheesy porno


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: CarbonKing]
    #10048279 - 03/26/09 07:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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They look like really nasty penises. Something that you see on low budget cheesy porno




Wooow.... I've never seen a penis like this bro!!! not that I'm a penis expert or a porn expert for that matter but dang.... thats some messed up penis.

Weird thing is they have been growing pins still. these three came first and look the the veils are opened already... the others popped up over the last 2 days. Kind of weird situation. I've been reading everything I can get my hands on but the FAE I would say is good. RH is 99% (maybe to high?) and temps around 65-72 degrees consistently, RR said 65 was fine. Just stumped on whether I said pull them or leave them...

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: AlienTechKilla]
    #10048295 - 03/26/09 07:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

hahaha!

They just look so mutated and nasty looking, and for some reason I had a mental pic of the cheesy 80's porn lol


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: CarbonKing]
    #10048552 - 03/26/09 07:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

They need to be pulled if the veils are opened.  Its not doing anygood to let them overmature.  Maybe the flush is over and its time for a good rinse, dunk, and roll is some fresh verm.  Either way, those pins are opened which means they aren't too happy about something.


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: PreyToGod]
    #10049029 - 03/26/09 08:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

try and get it a bit warmer or something, put your laptop on the lid of the FC when its charging at night.

definitely pull those... and that has got to be the LEAST Hawaiian I have ever seen a hawaiian become.... they are lighter colored and when over mature get really dark...

that looks like something else...

try warming them up a bit, it could have too much water... but I have never had that problem.


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: potatonet]
    #10049058 - 03/26/09 08:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I hear you can crumble then up and case them and get another flush or two outta them... Thats what I hear at least...


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: potatonet]
    #10049180 - 03/26/09 09:05 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I've pulled all the open ones. I will try to increase the temp a few degrees and see if that helps. Once I call this a full flush I'll pick the pins and crumble the two cakes to a 50/50 substrate. What do you think? Good idea or start fresh. I have about 9 jars colonizing right now with 2 strain and golden teacher. My next step will be a bulk project.

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: AlienTechKilla]
    #10049209 - 03/26/09 09:09 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I would case the cakes after 3rd flush. I say that because that's my plan, To crumble and case to 50/50+... Lemme know how it turns out.


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: DarkLotus]
    #10049327 - 03/26/09 09:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Dont waiste your time crumbling and casing your cakes, especially after its been through a flush or 2, its a waiste of time. Just an invitation for contamination. Your not adding anything and just making the muc waiste time and energy having to repair




Did you dunk before each flush??

Mutations are a fact of life, they happen. Its all ginetic. Your growing multispore which will produce a wide range of results.


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: DarkLotus]
    #10049336 - 03/26/09 09:29 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I think crumbling into poo after the 3rd or fourth flush is a great idea.

you will need quite a bit of cakes to run to poo after the 3rd flush as you will not have as much growth (less matter = less growth), I would recommend taking 2X the amount of cakes as a regular Hpoo tray.

If you want to just case them thats ok but I think the poo trick would give you a better output. get some poo mix from one of the sponsors and crumble that bad boy up into layers like the www.mushroomvideos.com tek describes.

if you havent yet, buy the DVD you will learn more from it as it is most of everything you will learn on these forums.

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: potatonet]
    #10049390 - 03/26/09 09:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I think crumbling into poo after the 3rd or fourth flush is a great idea.

you will need quite a bit of cakes to run to poo after the 3rd flush as you will not have as much growth (less matter = less growth), I would recommend taking 2X the amount of cakes as a regular Hpoo tray.

If you want to just case them thats ok but I think the poo trick would give you a better output. get some poo mix from one of the sponsors and crumble that bad boy up into layers like the www.mushroomvideos.com tek describes.

if you havent yet, buy the DVD you will learn more from it as it is most of everything you will learn on these forums.

RogerRabbit is the person to listen to. End of story.





Roger rabbit is a great experienced cultivator, however there are plenty of other experienced cultivators that have just as good advice to offer.

I stand with my opinion that its a waste of time crumbling after a few flushes. Its not a case of food, also remember that you can cells can only divide so many times. After a period of time, cell division slows down. Your mycelium gets weaker and cant produce as much. Leaving it much more susceptable to contamination.

When your colinising bulk sub, your relying on quick colinisaiton along with a pasturised substrate from strong mycelium so that contamination doesnt get a chance.

If spawning to more sub after a few flushes was the answer, we would all be doing it.


Crumbling and straight casing the cakes IMO opinion is even worse. Your just ripped the mycelial network appart, its now going to have to use some food up to repair, the older it is, the less likely thats going to happen.

Leave the cakes as is, once the flush is finished, let your cakes sit in the terrairum for a day or 2 with the lid cracked open, then dunk submerged in water for 24 hours.

Back into fruiting and continue misting then fanning, while givng bright light int he daylight range.


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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10049544 - 03/26/09 09:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Ya. The cakes receive indirect sunlight. 12/12 pretty much. I guess I'll wait to colonize some rye prior to spawning to substrate. I mean hell, that was going to be my next step anyway. In fact I may use a few jars direct to 50/50+ for my next grow just to play and see what I can do. Thanks for the insight

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Re: Are these cakes spent? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10049555 - 03/26/09 09:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ah yes, senescence rears its ugly head again...  Im going to have to start making master slants soon...


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