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First Harvested Pics Update on My Sprore > Rye > G2G > Coir Bucket/Monotub Grow! Updated 6/13/09
    #10041567 - 03/25/09 08:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I have had my fun with BRF cakes and PF Tek.
I believe that I am ready to move on to new adventures.
Soon, I plan on starting a pretty big project compared to my previous grow.
This is my first attempt using rye, first attempt using bulk substrates, and my first attempt using the bucket tek (monobucket).

I plan on using quart sized rye spawn to colonize straight coir substrate, all in a bucket grow.
I read over every post in _OttO_'s submission on how to do a bucket grow, and I have been vigorously searching daily for the last couple of weeks on every step of this soon to come process.
I plan on doing three buckets.

Here is my plan guys n gals.
Please criticize and let me know what you think I should add/drop or change all together.
Thanks everyone :laugh:
Here is my procedure.
Note all of this will be done with the utmost caution of sterility.

1. Measure out 1 Cup of organic rye for each quart jar to be PC’d
2. Place all grain to be used in a big pot and rinse it thoroughly until water runs out clear
3. Fill pot with three times as much water/coffee mix as there is grain, adding in 1/4 teaspoon of gypsum for every cup of grain (I will be using pulverized drywall instead of gypsum). Mix in well.
4. Let sit, covered, for 24 hours
5. Stir pot well, then put on stove and bring to a boil.
6. Boil for ten minutes, then strain while still boiling.
7. Shake and toss the grain in colander. Wait five minutes. Repeat as needed until grains are dry to the touch.
8. Fill jars about 2/3 full with these grains.
9. Place lid on(lid has 1/4” hole in middle stuffed with polyfil) and tightened
10. Place aluminum foil over jars so water does not get in/out
11. Put jars in pressure cooker and pressure cook for an hour at 15psi.
12. Allow jars to cool slightly, then while still warm, shake jars up so they do not clump.
13. When jars have thoroughly cooled, inject with approx. 2cc’s of spore solution from syringe through polyfil filter hole.
14. Incubate jars. When 30% colonized shake up jars to eliminate clumping.
15. Let jars fully re-colonize.
16. Mix 1 brick of Eco-Earth Coir with 14 cups of boiling water in a sterile 5 gallon pail (ea. pail has  (6) six 3/4” holes drilled in it, four near top, two just above substrate level, all covered with micropore tape).  Mix well and allow it to cool.
17. Add 2 quart jars of fully colonized rye grain to each 5 gallon pail. Mix well. Cover bucket with a clear shower cap and depress cap so it is concave into bucket.
18. Allow substrate to fully colonize.
19. Once fully colonized, add casing layer of 1/2 inch of pasteurized field capacity Miracle Gro Moisture Control.
20. Begin exposing this to fruiting conditions, with a 12/12hr fluorescent light and a fan blowing near the bucket.
21. Fan and mist as needed once fruiting.
22. Harvest when ready. :laugh:




I just want to say thank you everyone for making this such a great community. I have learned more in the past few weeks about mycology and cultivation than anyone could have expected.
I have undoubtedly found a new lifelong hobby.

Special thanks to RR and _OttO_, because I have taken their TEKs and improvised, twisted, and reorganized to suit my situation.




UPDATE 04/05/09
I injected two jars with B+ on 3/31/09, one with polyfil one with tyvek. 
First signs of growth showed on 4/4/09.
Here is a picture from today, 4/5/09. Tyvek seems to be going a little quicker than polyfil, but we shall wait and see who wins the race. They are both at about 76-79 degrees and have a little condensation on the inside of the jar.
The picture is of the tyvek'd jar.

Also sending thanks to Doodle for the helping along with the buckets!



UPDATE: 04/9/09
Well, here is an update.
The two jars were about 25-30% done yesterday, so I decided to shake them up. Today, I see white growth starting out everywhere :laugh:
Took pictures but they didn't turn out well so I just said screw it.
The jar with TYVEK is going a bit quicker than the jar with polyfil, so I am making the rest of my grow with tyvek.

I am currently in the middle of PCing nine rye jars. The rye soaked in water/coffee overnight, was boiled for about 10-15 minutes this morning, then strained until dry, and loaded into the jars, and I am pressure cooking right now.
The two that are colonizing right now are going to be the parent jars for these nine in a G2G.
Only thing is, these two parent jars will not be fully colonized for at least a week or so, so I plan on saran wrapping the tops of the PC'ed jars until I am ready to do the G2G.
Will they last like this until the parent jars are complete?


I plan on doing 2.5 quarts of spawn per bucket, doing 2 buckets, and using 4 qts in my 27 quart monotub.



Thanks folks, and to DOODLE.





UPDATE 04/13/09

Well, two parent jars are about 90 to 100 percent now. The one with polyfil is probably ready but the tyvek jar still has a patch uncolonized.
What do you think?
Here are some pictures.
The second picture shows the patch in the jar on the right that is still uncolonized.
The last picture shows the 9 sterilized jars that will be knocked up in my g2g.



UPDATE 04/15/09
Well I just finished up the G2G. I only used about 3/4 of one of those parent jars! I guess I will just have an extra colonized jar on my hands :laugh: I really hope I dont have any contams. I did it all in an upside down storage bin on the edge of a counter. Worked decent, but I would want a bigger tub if I were to do it more often. Used a lot of alcohol so that should help combat them.

Wish me luck! How long before I start to see growth in the new jars?

UPDATE 05/28/09

Well its been far too long since I last posted on my bucket/tub grow. Ive been busy with my DMT extractions and kind of forgot to keep this updated!

Well, I believe that it is time to introduce the two buckets and the tub to fruiting conditions. They have been wrapped in blankets with no FAE and they look fully colonized. Ive decided not to case for fear of contams. Here are some pictures. Let me know what you think.
I am about to drill six 3/4" holes in each of the buckets at sub. level.
I am also about to drill two 1" holes on each side of the tub.
I realize I should have drilled holes before colonizing, but I was unsure where the substrate level would settle to, so I decided to wait.

I have a timer in my closet so it has 12/12 lighting, and I am about to put a timer with a fan in there so the fan comes on once every hour for about 15 minutes.


How does this sound?


Here are the two buckets. I love the shower caps.
I have doubled up dark brown paper on the outside of the buckets to prevent side pinning.





UPDATE 06/06/09
Well finally I am seeing some results!


This is the first bucket. It is the slowest of the two buckets and the tub, but there are some pins popping up. Pretty soon my new Snackmaster will be packed full.



Here is the second bucket. It is doing quite well. I am noticing a lot of side pinning and pinning near the air exchange holes. I have the outsides completely covered, so light should not be an issue. It may be due to moisture that they like the sides?


And here is the tub. I can tell already by the stem that these are going to be real fat mushies. Bigger than my biggest from PF tek, that is for sure.

Cant wait to see the final product!


I know it is tough to tell but the bigger mushie in the second picture is already almost 3" tall, with a real fat stem!

Check out my little mutant shroom in the third and fourth picture!
Weird huh?

So what does everybody think







UPDATE 06/13/09

Here are some more pictures! I have harvest about 8 shrooms from my setup, all being anywhere from 15 to 30 grams wet. These suckers are huge!

Not really sure on the best way to dry these?
Should I cut the stems off from the caps and then cut the stems in half for most efficient drying? I dont want to loose any potency though. I am experimenting with different methods.

These first pics are of my dehydrator minus one 25g wet shroom about the same size as the biggest one in the picture.


Here are a couple pictures of my tub as of an hour ago.



Here is my slower bucket. It seems to have a higher pin count, but I havent harvested any off from it yet.


Here is my other bucket in which I have pulled 3 or 4 big ass shroomies from, all being about 6" tall and about 20-25g wet.



I have never tried fresh shroomies before, but I might have to if they keep coming like these are!


Edited by HappyCamper15 (06/13/09 10:34 AM)


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10041638 - 03/25/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

every thing sounds right, you don't have to use a shower cap, it does make things easier with Fae. but here one that colonized with a solid lid on.

and here it is with plastic wrap over it.

it is fruiting as i type and Ive never fanned or misted it. simply let it go like a mono bucket. I have used the shower caps before and i think they help but not enough for me to hunt em down after i lost the one i had. good luck with it and keep us posted, you seem to have done you research so I'm sure things will go great.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: Doodle]
    #10041668 - 03/25/09 08:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Doodle. That there looks great!

I appreciate your input. Are you using the Orange Home Depot Homer buckets? I was strongly considering using those.
Also, do you suggest I line the bottom of the bucket with plastic, just like a monotub? I see you have yours lined.

Also, if you are looking for shower caps, I found this on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320189788029&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching

Not a bad deal I believe.


Thanks again, and good luck with your bucket!


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10041743 - 03/25/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, i use the homer buckets. that particular bucket is an isolate from some one, so its the only bucket of that strain i got going, so I'm counting on it to get some good clones. But i keep about five of them around in the closet at once, they don't take up much space in the closet and when i wake up i simply take em out and place em in front of the window in the room. and turn on the fan in the room, has been working just fine. and thanks for the link on the shower caps.
sorry forgot to answer the question. you can line the bottom or paint it like otto did. I line the bottoms to help prevent side pinning and also to make for easier clean up


Edited by Doodle (03/25/09 08:59 PM)


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10041961 - 03/25/09 09:22 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks much for your thoughts.
I will probably end up lining it now, thought when mixing my coir in the bucket I might run into a problem.
We will face that when the time comes.
I will be using the Homer buckets. Cheap and readily available at Home Depot.


Again, thanks Doodle.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10042360 - 03/25/09 10:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

no prob. keep us updated. plus i popped your ratings cherry for doing your research. it will pay off rather then going into it blind. and i also pasteurize my sub in one bucket and line another bucket with a bag.

and then i dump all my spawn into the one lined and then dump the sub in and mix it all up real good by hand and the trim the bag and its ready to colonize.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: Doodle]
    #10044411 - 03/26/09 08:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Much appreciated Doodle. I will update with pictures once I start my process. Good plan about pasteurizing in a different bucket. Sounds like a plan.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10047001 - 03/26/09 04:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Any other critics?


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10051798 - 03/27/09 08:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Looks good! Little tip on finding stuff for the bucket tek, you can find 8 packs of shower caps at the dollar store for, you guessed it, one dollar.  They also have buckets, although about half the size of the homer buckets that are a good size and are relatively thick, black buckets that keep the light out.  At least at the dollar store near me.  Anyways, I look forward to see how your grow comes out!


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: CubieMcCuberton]
    #10053544 - 03/27/09 01:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the tip CubieMcCuberton
Appreciate your input.
I did go to home depot today and buy 3 homer buckets for less than ten bucks, so you cant beat that.
Also, for two dollars and free shipping I ordered 30 clear shower caps from eBay. They are also known as processing caps i guess. Hope they fit around the wide bucket mouth!?! If not, I will find a use for them somewhere.



Thanks again, and I will keep this post going once I start everything :laugh:


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10082287 - 03/31/09 06:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yesterday I rinsed two cups of rye grain thoroughly and let it soak for about 24 hours. This morning I boiled for about ten minutes until the grains were squishy and a couple had burst. I let them dry completely and loaded up two quart jars. I am only doing these two jars as a test run to get moisture content right on the jars. One jar with a 3/8" hole filled with polyfil and the other with 1/4" hole with a layer of tyvek over the lid and screwed down with the ring. Just seeing which I prefer.
I just got done pressure cooking for an hour, and now they are sitting and cooling down.
There seems to be a little bit of condensation on the inside of the jars. Not much, just a little. Not sure if this is OK or not, but we will find out. I am going to wait until they have completely cooled for at least 6 hrs to see if the condensation dries at all as well.

Here is a picture of my two jars, almost ready to be shot up i believe. 




LMK what you think.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10082530 - 03/31/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

the condensation is ok, just sake up the jars before you knock em up to evenly distribute the moisture.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: Doodle]
    #10082535 - 03/31/09 06:38 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Will do Doodle. Thanks for sticking along with my post. :laugh:


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10083285 - 03/31/09 08:29 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Well I just knocked them up - about 2cc each jar - B+ spore syringe from Sporeworks.

Slide needle in between polyfil and lid and the other I poked through the tyvek, and covered the hole with micropore tape when finished.

All done very quickly with a $hit ton of lysol spray, rubbing alcohol, hand sanitizer, and a lighter.

Wish me luck!


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10086228 - 04/01/09 10:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Good luck! Careful with the lysol though, some people claim it causes mutations, I don't know how true that is because I have never seen anything backing it up, but lots of people believe it.  Anyways, like doodle said, the little bit of condensation is fine, and it sounds like your doing well so far.  You should see signs of colonization in a few days. :regularshroom:


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: CubieMcCuberton]
    #10087717 - 04/01/09 03:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the tip CubieMcCuberton. I sprayed the air with it a few minutes before performing the procedures. Hopefully things turn out great!
Cant wait to see first signs of grown. I will upload pics as soon as I do :laugh:


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10104388 - 04/04/09 09:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

First signs of grown are showing this morning. Cant wait for it to finish up :laugh:


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10109870 - 04/05/09 11:04 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Updated original post with picture of growth.


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: HappyCamper15]
    #10109900 - 04/05/09 11:12 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey no problem man. Looks like your on your way to harvest. the jar looks great. Is it multi spore, Im guessing it is. So you might want to shake at around 30 percent colonized. I dont shake with LC but when i use Multi spore i shake. It will speed things up and spread the colonization around more evenly and in 24 hours after shaking it will explode with growth all over.
  Good luck man, and keep us updated...


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Re: Plans For My Rye to Coir Bucket Grow! Please criticize it! [Re: Doodle]
    #10109939 - 04/05/09 11:19 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Doodle. That was my plan exactly, shaking once around 30%. It is MS, syringe from Sporeworks. I have stretched this one syringe out pretty far, making six 1/2 pint BRF cakes and 2 quart rye jars, and still have 3cc left! I am thinking of making Karo LC with the remainder. I plan on doing two buckets and a monotub like Damions, so I plan on having around 10-12 jars. Im not sure if I should do LC, or just G2G from these two that are colonizing right now. All I know is that I can't wait to make my own prints so I can be self-sufficient!


I will keep updating for sure. Thanks again man.


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