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Custom Built FC Closet (Pics)
    #10030263 - 03/23/09 11:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

My FC is almost done
Would it be better to have my fresh air piped thru the humidifier box or just let it mix naturally in the chamber???
There will be two cool mists and a ultrasonic in the box, I'm going for 3-4 air exchanges per hour.

I lined the closets with shower-board and had a small water leak in the incubation chamber, the water was pooling in a small area on the floor for about 2 days and it started to bubble up the shower-board a little.
This has me concerned about the FC side it has a drain and will have perlite on the floor to keep water from sitting but should I line the floor with rubber to avoid water damage??? Has anyone used the fiber painted shower board before???



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Re: Custom Built FC Closet (Pics) [Re: balleman3]
    #10030273 - 03/23/09 11:14 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

dang...


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10030287 - 03/23/09 11:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

WOW that looks rather elaborate. Keep us posted on how it works out

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: Despondent]
    #10030317 - 03/23/09 11:20 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup::naughty: that is one sexy set up youhave there....

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: rugergirl79]
    #10030346 - 03/23/09 11:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks it's consumed me this will be my first grow I just cased #8 30qt tubs of hpoo they overheated and got a lot of moisture but colonized.

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10030356 - 03/23/09 11:28 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

you must keep us updated on the progress.......i wanna see more!!!!:cheers:

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: rugergirl79]
    #10030616 - 03/24/09 12:18 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

how did they overheat?  I was reading in your other grow log that it overheated... is it hot there or something?


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10030746 - 03/24/09 01:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The closet is sealed air tight and that much poo just puts out a lot of heat. The Closet got to 95deg, internal temp got to 107deg

The house stays 70deg. I have a radiator in the chamber with cold water pumping thru it and a water tank in my fridge

The water has froze in the fridge a few times, and that stops the cooling causing it to overheat in its own

The temp in the fridge drops down in the 20's about once a week. I'm going to put a commercial remote digital thermostat on it to keep that from happening again.

I posted something about using antifreeze (will it condensate into jars) but no one seamed to understand what I was talking about and said get an AC stupid



This is actually a freezer with a fridge thermostat installed
I use it to store jars and cool incubation chamber


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10030796 - 03/24/09 01:36 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Jeez! How much did all this cost? If you don't mind me asking. Great setup, its amazing!


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: Muffinlad]
    #10030878 - 03/24/09 02:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Don't know cashed in my 401k about a month ago, a lot more than planned when I started but I hope it will last a very long time, although I'm not sure about the shower-board... Everything comes out easy for cleaning (with no tools) even the power-station is mounted on a removable plastic board. I got the glass from some mirrors I had lying around and epoxied the hinges on that would have been the expensive part to buy. The FC hepa was on clearance at Lowe's for 36$ & the small one came from goodwill. The racks where lying around behind a grocery store. It took about 8 sheets of showerboard 100$

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10030907 - 03/24/09 02:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It's very beautiful I must add. Looks like something that would belong in a lab.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: Muffinlad]
    #10031034 - 03/24/09 03:18 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Your like an evil genious or something... Im scared :eek:

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: RRiddering]
    #10033025 - 03/24/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I would think you could use antifreeze if its not being exposed to air anywhere...

or just get some propylene glycol and put it in water by itself, that will prevent freezing as well (its the polymer in antifreeze but there is other crap in antifreeze too).

what is that thing above the fridge? the hepa?

dood u should label stuff... I cant tell whats what in that thing and I have a background in engineering


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10033052 - 03/24/09 02:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

lol..


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: SillyBilly]
    #10033534 - 03/24/09 03:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Cool thanks I'll do a google search for it, until I get the fridge fixed

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10035836 - 03/24/09 09:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Would it be better to have my fresh air piped thru the humidifier box or just let it mix naturally in the chamber???
There will be two cool mists and a ultrasonic in the box, I'm going for 3-4 air exchanges per hour. I'm not concerned about back pressure because it will be piped to the cool mist intakes.
I need to know tonight so I can finish FC, running out of time...
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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10036055 - 03/24/09 09:58 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

run it into the humidifier and vent the excess pressure before the chamber above the fridge.

honestly I would run the humidifier and replace the hepa system with an oxygen generator... its 345 dollars but you would have plenty of O2. I've seen people run O2 into an ultrasonic before, while that would be harder for your situation, as you would have to run a snaking line over all of the subs, I think its produces the best results.

If you can get an oxygen concentrator those are the best, but they are medical devices and are a little harder to come by.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10036077 - 03/24/09 10:13 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:mushroom2:Nice FC :thumbup::thumbup:

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10036080 - 03/24/09 10:14 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Cool Ill get to work on that tonight, Yea I was planning on venting excess pressure in the cabinet, that would also filter the air a few times before it goes in the chamber and It would give me another option to control humidity based on fresh air supply to chamber.

Thanks Ill research Oxygen generators, Maybe get one set up on the next batch.

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10036212 - 03/24/09 10:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

after thinking about it a little i thought about this little issue that will come up with out a doubt
you should make it so things can come out in sections and everything should be removable. because you will run into problems with routine maintenance and cleaning with something so elaborate.
think of it as like one of those huge rooms you see for large buildings dedicated to the ac or an engine room for a large boat if you have ever been in one of those. you will want to be able to move around and be able to take stuff out with out getting extremely pissed off because the stuff you have in there basically went on a one way trip in. mainly referring to stuff that runs behind the wall like that big insulated pipe looking thing. ive worked for my dad a cpl times running wires etc through houses and if you think running the wire is a bitch imagine trying to take it out without ripping things apart.
but im just the devils advocate but i also dont want you to have a poor future with such an amazing looking set up.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: SillyBilly]
    #10036255 - 03/24/09 11:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

put bleach in your ultrasonic and put it where the humidifier is, then run an air pump in it and make sure it fogs up your whole chamber for a day.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: SillyBilly]
    #10036703 - 03/25/09 12:46 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

OK so I changed it, I piped the fresh air to the humidifier box.
Should I use the 2 cool mists and a ultrasonic on a timer in the box???
if I do this I will build a top for the humidifier box to feed the air to the intakes of the cool-mist preventing back-pressure on system.

The other option is to just use ultrasonics on timers in the box and pipe the fresh air directly into the box. This would be much easer as I already have positive pressure air supply with variable speed.
Everyone talks about over saturation with ultrasonics would that be a problem with this much air supply???

I need to do this tonight so please let me know ASAP.
This will be permanent so if you not sure please let someone else answer Thanks


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10036722 - 03/25/09 12:50 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

dammmmmnnnnn.... very nice

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10036755 - 03/25/09 12:59 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

run it directly to the box, there is no reason to run them to the cool mist...

if you run it directly to the box your ultrasonic fog will get pushed out easier, just make sure that filter is clean in the hepa... its easy to put relief on the box if the pressure is too much and is causing the hepa to heat up.

run the ultrasonics on timers, this option will give you a better ability to ADD an oxygen supplement system if you want to in the future.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10036764 - 03/25/09 01:01 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

you will have one hell of a time oversaturating that FC... you would have to be running that ultrasonic ALL THE TIME.

I would still recommend rotating your trays as the humidity level may vary with the height variation being so large with the humidifier on the bottom.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10036817 - 03/25/09 01:17 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Do I even need the cool-mist's if I install ultrasonics in the box and pipe the HEPA into it???

I'm not worried about back pressure on the HEPA, I'm relieving access pressure in the cabinet that HEPA is in so the air will be filtered numerous times before before its pumped into chamber.

If I use cool mists I am going to make a top to feed air into cool mists so they are not trying to push air into a positive pressure environment. People say cool mists don't last very long with back pressure. The HEPA piped directly into the box would create back pressure for the cool-mists.

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10036855 - 03/25/09 01:29 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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you will have one hell of a time oversaturating that FC... you would have to be running that ultrasonic ALL THE TIME.

I would still recommend rotating your trays as the humidity level may vary with the height variation being so large with the humidifier on the bottom.



Did you look at pics of the humidifier output pipe at the beginning of this thread It runs all the way to the top of the chamber and outputs are sized mathematically for even air distribution. All of the fresh air that enters the chamber will also flow thru this. and like I said I can put multiple ultrasonics in the box. This will be permanent and I only get one chance to do it perfectly

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10036896 - 03/25/09 01:45 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Question, how are you planning on fruiting those 28Qt containers?
The shrooms wont have anywhere to grow, especially with a sub depth of 3". Or is the right side an incubation chamber and the left a fruiting chamber.

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: SillyBilly]
    #10036917 - 03/25/09 01:55 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

No the left side is for my clothes and stuff... :whack:

Edited by balleman3 (03/25/09 02:15 AM)

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10036994 - 03/25/09 02:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

balleman3 said:
No the left side is for my clothes and stuff... :whack:



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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: Shroominit]
    #10037095 - 03/25/09 04:25 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

what r the interior dimensions of the FC?

doesnt look very deep.

only possible problems i see:

the pipe from the box...A LOT of water will be dripping back down that pipe into the box i think

and the showerboard, idk about that stuff, maybe you can switch all the board out with plastic, plexiglass, glass, etc. something you KNOW wont rot


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: just me]
    #10037233 - 03/25/09 06:25 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I dont understand why the water that you have in the fridge is freezing. Your fridge if its set right should be around 4C and when its pumping through your radiator and bringing back warm water to the box in your fridge, it should never freeze even if it was close to 0.

Having something thats colder that the surrounding air inside your fruiting chamber is gong to cause problems. Your always going to get moisture condensiing out of the air onto your radiator, and dripping everywhere. That can also rob your of humidity. You want the moisture to stay in the air.

Your temps are pretty warm getting above 95F. If you can get it to stay somewhere below 90F for fruiting you should be OK. I have heard of cubensis fruiting upto 90F.

With fresh air, you dont need to filter it. But you can if you want.

This is a pretty unusuall setup, im only familar with greenhouses and marthas where a coolmist on a timer inside is more than ample for RH and FAE is taken care of with slits in the walls.

A problem i see is with it being complelty sealed, its all fine and well pumping in fresh air, but you will need somewhere for the old stale air to go. Fresh air exchange isnt just getting new air in, but also getting the old air out. You idealy want to replace the air inside with new air, not just mix in new with old.

Also, i think it would be more benificial to have fresh air pumped in thats not went through a humidifier. evaporation of moisture from a substrate is  pinning triger, and thats what air exchanges do. then that moisture is usually replaced with misting.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10038421 - 03/25/09 11:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If he runs it through the ultrasonic... all he has to do is turn the ultrasonic off to get much less moisture...

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: veda_sticks]
    #10038438 - 03/25/09 11:55 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The air in the FC chamber is exhausted thru the three inch drain in the floor.
The radiator is in the Incubation chamber side and condensation is not a problem It stays at 70% RH on its own.
The fridge is another Issue I will fix soon.

QUOTE>>i think it would be more beneficial to have fresh air pumped in thats not went through a humidifier. evaporation of moisture from a substrate is  pinning trigger, and thats what air exchanges do. then that moisture is usually replaced with misting)

So which one should I do
#1 Should I use the 2 cool mists and a ultrasonic on a timer in the box???
if I do this I will build a top for the humidifier box to feed the air to the intakes of the cool-mist preventing back-pressure on system.

#2 The other option is to just use ultrasonics on timers in the box and pipe the fresh air directly into the box. This would be much easer as I already have positive pressure air supply with variable speed.
Everyone talks about over saturation with ultrasonics would that be a problem with this much air supply???

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10038509 - 03/25/09 12:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

:whack:

I say in the box, I know my reasons

there is also the posibility of running a dehumidifier if you want less moisture.

you also have to realize that the mixture of water, air, and light is algae city... make sure you put DI water in that humidifier.


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10038848 - 03/25/09 01:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

In the box it is but do I still need the cool mists????

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10038982 - 03/25/09 01:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

OK so put ultrasonics hooked to timers in the box and pipe FAE directly into box.
I will have to make another top, but like this???

It will be filled automatically with distilled water to the proper level, and I will be able to control fresh air input.

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10039723 - 03/25/09 03:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yes that is fine.

you do not need the cool mists, the ultrasonics should provide enough air & water to keep the water content in the air high enough, being that its pretty well sealed I doubt you will need anything else to keep it warm enough. (70-78)


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10042282 - 03/25/09 10:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

You should really be colonizing substrates on an open shelf in a room.  If you close them up, not only will they overheat, but the stale air/high CO2 is detrimental to the mycelium.

As for fruiting, you want massive amounts of fresh air and 95% or greater humidity.  Consider three to four air exchanges per hour to be minimum, and shoot for more than that.  However you go about getting there will work.  You can humidify your intake, or humidify the chambers and let it pump out as you supply fresh air.  You don't need a hepa on a grow chamber.  Personally, I'd go with a greenhouse type setup with lots of holes and slits cut into it for fresh air, and a humidifier inside.  The less mechanized you make it, the better it will perform.
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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10042594 - 03/25/09 10:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Mr. Rabbit still thinks that the flinstones car is better than a F1 car.

hahaha j/k

You got to get out of that cabin every once in a while, its making you enjoy simple things too much!


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10042743 - 03/25/09 11:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If something less expensive works better, why not go with that?

Although, I have a tendency to over-mechanize in the name of automation, myself.

Your chamber looks beautiful. I hope, one day, to build something as impressive :smile:. Good luck with your technical difficulties!

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: OttoGenerated]
    #10043538 - 03/26/09 02:25 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think that sticking a humidifier in FC chamber and punching some holes in it would work better than precisely controlling and mixing everything but yes I tend to get carried away.

I bought two 40$ 110v ultrasonics I was going to use the parts out of them, but as it turns out the Dollar Mart's garden mister's actually outperform them...





FC is finished with auto fill water system...

Edited by balleman3 (04/02/09 04:44 AM)

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10092188 - 04/02/09 03:27 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I just put a few of the tubs in the FC. The one on the top right (in FC) was already starting to pin when I removed the top and it looks the best to me. I have five more tubs that look about like the one pictured on the bottom, should I go ahead and put them in the FC, or wait for a bit more colonization like the one that pinned on the top right?
My RH humidity is staying at 95-99% with massive FAE will this be OK as long as my casing don't become waterlogged?

The tub that's pinning was compacted at spawn and weighs 20% more, I started it a week early it obviously had no problems colonizing and should yield more...

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: SillyBilly]
    #10092333 - 04/02/09 04:51 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: shroomiin]
    #10092676 - 04/02/09 07:22 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Man not trying to bust your balls cuz your setup seems to be working but there is just a lot of shit you could have eliminated and made into one unit. The biggest thing i see is your auto feed bucked with that homemade box crap. I understand that the foggers need to stay like an inch below water to work correctly, but try and picture this

Instead of all of that, just have your 5 gallon bucket. Then use a fogger like you have with one of the floats from here

http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggers.html

There at the bottom. Basically they keep the fogger at proper water level no matter how much water you have in the bucket. So now you have a bucket full of fog.

Now you take some type of squirrel cage blower or whatever you can find to move enough air for your setup and either put that directly on the lid of your bucket so its pushing air into the bucket, or pipe the air into the bucket from wherever you setup your blower.

So now you have a bucket with plenty of fog/humidity with air going in. So finally you pipe in a few exhaust tubes on the bucket that go to your chamber, so all the air that the blower pumps in is now saturated and goes directly into your chamber but only eliminating all of the other things you have setup that can go wrong. Then the only thing you have to do is dial in your chamber with a timer on the fogger to turn on and off enough to keep your rh where it needs to be.

Hopefully you understand what im trying to say but if now i can post some pics when i get home. Its what i use for my setup and ive never had a single problem out of it. Simple and compact and does the same job all of stuff you have does.

Nice job though on your setup, hope it continues to work out for you

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: Digital Reality]
    #10095288 - 04/02/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Yes that would be easier and I am familiar with that type of set up but I did it this way for a few different reasons. What about my colonization question should I put the rest in the FC now???

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10096792 - 04/02/09 07:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I just put a few of the tubs in the FC. The one on the top right (in FC) was already starting to pin when I removed the top and it looks the best to me. I have five more tubs that look about like the one pictured on the bottom, should I go ahead and put them in the FC, or wait for a bit more colonization like the one that pinned on the top right?


The tub that's pinning was compacted at spawn and weighs 20% more, I started it a week early it obviously had no problems colonizing and should yield more...


Well I guess I will put the other tubs in the FC tonight if I don't get a response...

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10097264 - 04/02/09 09:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I really like the streamline looks of the FC.. its the george clooney of fruiting chambers lol.. only prob is that its a little difficult to make out whats what and what not :smile: maybe ms paint some labels on their for us? would love to get a more inlightened view of the thing..

Im actually putting together a new fruiting chamber as well.. possibly going to retire tho ol greenhouse.. Going to use a 4x4ft Hydrohut like the one seen here
http://www.hydroponicgarden.net/content-product_info/product_id-1241/hydrohut_original.html
copped one off of ebay a couple weeks ago for a lil over $100, decking it out with shelves, hepa and such as we speak, hopefully have pics up sometime this month! :smile:


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: koopa_troopa]
    #10097459 - 04/02/09 09:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thats the same type I was looking to put in my closet before I started building but I couldn't find one the right size for my space requirements. I will post some more things about my set up when I finish, right now its still evolving.
What about my casing colonization??? Opinions Please!!!

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10097621 - 04/02/09 09:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

needs some more colonization
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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: potatonet]
    #10098406 - 04/03/09 12:13 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

actually the greenhouse with slits in it and the humidifier sitting inside works great.. just set the humidifier on a timer and you can get everything down to exact conditions.. its not like the number of holes etc are changing! Ive used that set up for years! works like a charm


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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: koopa_troopa]
    #10098635 - 04/03/09 01:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

OK I guess I will let the rest of the tubs colonize a bit more before I put them in the FC, I was just worried about them overlaying. Do I still have potential for a good pinset with the ones I put in the FC already?

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10114544 - 04/06/09 02:42 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I'm getting some fat pins!!!  This one is Malabar.

I have one ultrasonic running 24-7 and just adjust my fresh air supply to get my desired RH. I'm going thru about two gallons of distilled water and 1/2 a bottle of H2O2 per day. I would use filtered water but I'm not sure about the quality of my tap water?

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Re: Custom Built FC Closet [Re: balleman3]
    #10116637 - 04/06/09 12:35 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

dont use tap water, it has a LOT of crap in it that you dont want, try running the ultrasonic a little less those things look REALLY moist.

I think you triggered pinning, just a little less water and you should be ok.

dont blow so much air into there that it drops your RH when you have an ultrasonic blowing all the time.

just got to work out the kinks and everything will be fine.


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