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    #10016463 - 03/21/09 08:28 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

hi im just getting back into this hobby ..i tried once and epic failed 8 1/2 pt brf Jars all 8 contaminated ...well here i am a year later and now its starting to get back into season so am i ...well i didnt really have any mats so i took an old chia pet had soil and and a few rye seeds and a hand full of verm and a hand full of cow manure i got from walmart i mixed it all together pasteurized it,squeezed most the water out for 30 min took a clean (old) jar filled it almost up now made a filter foiled it got a small jar for a print i made last(making a syringe) year and i am also sterilizing and old syringe i had using the boiling method  ..i know this is off the wall but what do u think my success rate will be ..10%?

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10016480 - 03/21/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Boiling water for sterilizing a syringe (let it cool before using it on the spores), will work fine. The rest of your post didn't look like it would grow anything at all. (0% success rate) please read up a bit on some teks and sterilization.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10016490 - 03/21/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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i know this is off the wall but what do u think my success rate will be ..10%?




10% is your success rate for making complete sentences. It's hard to help you when you don't take the time to make a legible post :cool:

I doubt you will have any success with your grow, but good luck!

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: freespeech]
    #10016575 - 03/21/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

i know im not vary good at writing i am from Louisiana ,lol but that doesn't mean i don't understand things ...basically i didn't have a whole lot of mats ..was reading for a while and got a wild hair to just experiment . because if it did cake up it would be a great story

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10016597 - 03/21/09 08:48 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Nothing wrong with experimentation, just letting you know what I think.

Problem is that you are pasteurizing grains in with a bulk sub, and trying to inoculate it all.

You can inoculate grains (with spores) just fine, but NOT a bulk sub. So it's likely that the experiment would end here. What's more is that pasteurizing grains will not kill endospores which will germinate in a couple days and probably take over the jar(chia). That's all.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: Shroominit]
    #10016613 - 03/21/09 08:51 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Use this for inspiration.


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10016718 - 03/21/09 09:15 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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i know im not vary good at writing i am from Louisiana ,lol




:rofl: hahaha well put.

Good luck with your experiment. Be sure to update this thread and let us know how it goes - even if it completely fails.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: freespeech]
    #10017192 - 03/21/09 11:01 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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10% is your success rate for making complete sentences.



haha
thats kinda funny
but dude do the PF tek....real simpe and you will make a harvest
Anyone can do it man
Be positive
10% is not a very high goal you know


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: SethTheGreat]
    #10017359 - 03/21/09 11:33 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

it was just a spur of the moment type thing for practice ..really not expecting anything from this experiment.but from what i read the way to go is spawn to bulk from rye seed to straw logs ..thats my next serious experiment ,and ill keep trying it until i have the whole thing cloned to grow most shrooms same size and grow speed . and i can stretch my mycelium as far as possible . ill do this out side this summer in an outside greenhouse witch is perfect for south weather ..the wild shrooms around here are redonkulas and i think it might even be a new strain of Cubes i got about 5 caps last year the size of a softball and 1 that was bigger out in a field(i want a spore print of that) and i actually got 1 or 2 bigger from that the rest was perfect size and potency was about a 4 out of 5 ..i cant wait for the season to start!

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10017366 - 03/21/09 11:35 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

but i found the most abundant shroms grew under this long patch of trees and weeds and vines in the pasture

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10017552 - 03/22/09 12:23 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Your setup doesn't seem very orderly, but best of luck to you anyways.

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i know im not vary good at writing i am from Louisiana



:rolleyes: Too bad this is actually true for the most part. I think it's because everyone down here parties until their brain turns into a blob of goo.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: Magishrum]
    #10017643 - 03/22/09 12:54 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

we party ! but i take things only in moderation and i always have control over myself and i don't drink .thing is with louisiana.we have a vary poor education department and at English was my worst subject obviously we all have bad qualities mine is just obvious here ...just try to piece the info together the best way you can and try to look past my poor English skills ..i cant write a proper letter but i can teach and play the hell out of a guitar

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10017671 - 03/22/09 01:02 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

I give you 0%...


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: dead]
    #10019285 - 03/22/09 11:41 AM (15 years, 9 days ago)

none the less
The PF tek would be good practice
I cant stress how easy it is
its here, you should read up
take the time and learn it right
good luck to ya man


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: SethTheGreat]
    #10019802 - 03/22/09 01:22 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

i tried the PF tech i don't really care for it ..even if it worked i think it would be a waste of time compared to spawn to bulk

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10019835 - 03/22/09 01:33 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

If you cant successfully grow mushrooms with the PF tech, your not going to have any luck with bulk.
You need to take baby steps first.


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10019850 - 03/22/09 01:36 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

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i tried the PF tech i don't really care for it ..even if it worked i think it would be a waste of time compared to spawn to bulk



You don't care for it?

It'll give you a 90% success rate. That beats 0%.

Ahaha... can you understand that? :smirk:


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10019919 - 03/22/09 01:49 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

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i tried the PF tech i don't really care for it ..even if it worked i think it would be a waste of time compared to spawn to bulk





PF Tek works great, and is no waste of time. It helps acclimate new cultivators to the ideas behind sterility and allows you to keep your eggs in separate baskets, so to speak.

I grow all my edibles in bulk (because it makes sense if I wanted 20lbs of mushrooms), but when I am growing just to get a couple prints or something, PF is the quickest and most effective method. I can make up a jar in like 15 minutes, PC for 90, let cool for a few hours, then knock them up and be done. They'll be ready to birth in about two weeks. Bulk you get to do a whole other set of preparation after the two weeks and then wait for that to colonize before you even enter fruiting conditions.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: Shroominit]
    #10020260 - 03/22/09 02:44 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

vary true..what ill do is both at the same time ill knock up rye seed for the bulk and some quart jars for the PF tech ...also i know this might not be the right section of this forum for this  but i also want to get a spore print of some of the shrooms that grow around here and send it off there like nothing i have ever seen ..so Beautiful!

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10020690 - 03/22/09 04:00 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

LOL. I'd put all my money that it'd fail.

dude, before you experiment. follow legit. you can't experiment especially when you have NO IDEA what you are doing. I can tell just from reading what you are doing. It's ridiculously stupid that you'd even expect it to work.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10021176 - 03/22/09 05:01 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

i don't think you understand i have read and researched this for over a year but only tried this once ..see this is where a post goes bad because now your being an asshole and calling me stupid so fuck you i didn't ask for your opinion go fuck yourself

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10021717 - 03/22/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

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quart jars for the PF tech




QFT

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: freespeech]
    #10021873 - 03/22/09 06:40 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

half pints and smaller are good for pf tek. pints and larger, while sometimes successful, have knack for stalling out due to compression, co2 and moisture issues that we do not experience in smaller jars.

small jars will also colonize faster, and as said, more consistently.

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: ABC]
    #10021908 - 03/22/09 06:45 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

ahh yes thats what i meant ..i threw most out when they contaminated them but i should have boiled them and kept the jars now all i have is 1

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Re: chia shrooms [Re: shrooman420]
    #10022056 - 03/22/09 07:04 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

plastic tek is inexpensive and I personally prefer plastic. my fav is the 1 pints that are just a lil taller than the widemouth half pints.. I leave about 3/4 inch of open space between the lid and thebrf verm... let it colonize 30 to 40 percent then shake like crazy another week and a half and they are ready to spawn "that's countingthe week after full colonization" or just birth em... I rambled on but to the point go by a dollar store and look around the plastic u need has that lil arrow triangle thing with pp5 inside it.. so it'll withstand heat of sterilizing it... cheap and easy.


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Re: chia shrooms [Re: madwire3]
    #10023151 - 03/22/09 10:08 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Those things are ready to spawn to bulk soon as they're fully colonized. If you're gonna birth as is, prob best to wait a week though, to let it really get it's network set up so you're not waiting forever for it to pin.


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