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InvisibleLakefingers
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Primitivism as asubjectivity
    #10013638 - 03/21/09 12:39 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Not sphere here, sphere there,
loves me, loves me not.

When the primitivist returns to the city they question the emptiness, the rationale of effectivity, the free-energy machine of somnabulence.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10013763 - 03/21/09 01:00 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

The primitivist has some weird notion that the nomad was a majestic creature, which he was not.


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10013767 - 03/21/09 01:01 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Yes.

I rarely get out into the natural world, sadly.  Last time I was away from most of the trappings of modern society for a couple of days (nothing too extraordinary, just a backpacking trip in a pretty un-remote part of the NE US) I remember walking into a restaurant when I got back and finding all the hurried energy of the people around me silly - kind of akin to tripping and being able to step back from the neurotic busyness of mind, just enough to be amused/incredulous but not enough to truly still it.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: learningtofly]
    #10013818 - 03/21/09 01:11 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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learningtofly said:
The primitivist has some weird notion that the nomad was a majestic creature, which he was not.





Neither is the settled person.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lion]
    #10013826 - 03/21/09 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Lion said:
Yes.

I rarely get out into the natural world, sadly.  Last time I was away from most of the trappings of modern society for a couple of days (nothing too extraordinary, just a backpacking trip in a pretty un-remote part of the NE US) I remember walking into a restaurant when I got back and finding all the hurried energy of the people around me silly - kind of akin to tripping and being able to step back from the neurotic busyness of mind, just enough to be amused/incredulous but not enough to truly still it.




Most people are extremely neurotic. And as far as I can tell, I'd prefer if they weren't.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10013856 - 03/21/09 01:19 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Lakefingers said:
Quote:

learningtofly said:
The primitivist has some weird notion that the nomad was a majestic creature, which he was not.





Neither is the settled person.




tu quoque.


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: learningtofly]
    #10014033 - 03/21/09 01:43 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

appeal to authority

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014050 - 03/21/09 01:45 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

What authority? You haven't appealed to any authority. Unless you're claiming that I've appealed to an unqualified authority, in which case i'm still confused


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: learningtofly]
    #10014095 - 03/21/09 01:51 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

You are confused by a 'licorice reindeer runner's high from mumuland'? Is that so very surprising?


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10014204 - 03/21/09 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Indeed, I need to represent myself with more abstractions.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014256 - 03/21/09 02:13 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Quote:

Lakefingers said:
Not sphere here, sphere there,
loves me, loves me not.

When the primitivist returns to the city they question the emptiness, the rationale of effectivity, the free-energy machine of somnabulence.





So culture must die, I agree. How could that happen?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Icelander]
    #10014286 - 03/21/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

I don't believe it will.
And I'm not talking about "going back" like everyone that accuses primitivists of wanting.
Right now and for a long while in the future (if this civilization's jenga-like systems don't topple themselves or civilized man) we're going to have more culture, more specification, more specialization, more separation, more atomization.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014293 - 03/21/09 02:20 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

I agree. "You can't get out of it, until you get into it" -Genisis


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014336 - 03/21/09 02:27 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Lakefingers said:
Indeed, I need to represent myself with more abstractions.



? Can you please elaborate on what you meant when you said "Appeal to authority"


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: learningtofly]
    #10014368 - 03/21/09 02:30 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Logical fallacies are the authority system.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014397 - 03/21/09 02:33 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

So you're saying that what I said was void because I said that you were using a logical fallacy?

Wait nevermind, there's a difference between an authority and an unqualified authority. I'm still in the clear.


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: learningtofly]
    #10014441 - 03/21/09 02:38 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

What I'm saying is those are aikido moves to neutralize beginning attackers.

For a real engagement you need to exert yourself.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014455 - 03/21/09 02:40 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

The Master is relaxed at all times. He breaths as a if he were an infant. To exert is to fail.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Lakefingers]
    #10014459 - 03/21/09 02:42 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Lakefingers said:
What I'm saying is those are aikido moves to neutralize beginning attackers.

For a real engagement you need to exert yourself.




I need to break away from pointing out fallacies so that you may make arguments that don't make sense?


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Re: Primitivism as asubjectivity [Re: Icelander]
    #10014461 - 03/21/09 02:42 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

If the master didn't exert himself he'd being sitting on his zafu.

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