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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: djmako7]
    #10038231 - 03/25/09 11:24 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

it is expelled through the bottom two whole while fresh air is pulled in through the top two wholes.

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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: djmako7]
    #10038243 - 03/25/09 11:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

If anything isn't needed with monotubs it is filters


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Doodle]
    #10038273 - 03/25/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

its location location location. You should put your tub in a closet while its colonizing or a room you dont enter. That way the air flow is cut off. You did a ratio that should colonize in about 4 days. If you isnt, its getting way to much air. Use cyran wrap or press and seal to cover the top. I tape off alot of my holes while it colonizes. Not all of them. Co2 is denser than the oxygen so it will sit at the bottom of the tub. Cover your entire project with a trash bag.. to restrict the air flow of the holes you put polyfil in.
Once its colonized (all white). Throw polyfil in the remainder of the holes. Turn on ur lights do the 12/12 cycle. Leave the project uncovered. You dont really need a fan on, I do but you dont have too. Sometimes that can cause humidity to fall below 90%. Ive had good success without making top holes, big mushies but they're arent as many.


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10038295 - 03/25/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Check out tahoe's thread on FC and filters

Why are you putting filters on your fruiting chambers?


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: djmako7]
    #10038308 - 03/25/09 11:34 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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FooMan said:
Like dead said, the polyfil holds in the moisture and has little to do with filtering the air. Mono and double tubs don't work the same way a shotgun does. Monos have 1" or bigger holes as opposed to the 1/4" holes in a shotgun. I've tried monotubs without polyfil and the results sucked.




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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: djmako7]
    #10038331 - 03/25/09 11:38 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Check out tahoe's thread on FC and filters

Why are you putting filters on your fruiting chambers?



Well its true fruiting chambers dont need to be sterile. Honestly You expose your pasteurized mix to the open air with you mix. Thats not sterile in any way shape or form. Polyfil is a filter yes. But in monotubs its used to keep humidity up. During the colonization process its good to use, and it is somewhat does act as a filter. But after that, its in fruiting conditions that stereotype changes. Tyvek isnt used in monotubs. It restricts air flow during fruiting conidtions.

I was just thinkin about a experiment a shotgun monotub.


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10038354 - 03/25/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The only reason why I say anything at all is my tubs failed without fanning. Somethings work for some people the same ways may not work for others.


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10038392 - 03/25/09 11:47 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Tyvek isnt used in monotubs. It restricts air flow during fruiting conidtions.





i have tyvek on my bottom holes, what else could i use?


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Kendo]
    #10038403 - 03/25/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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i have tyvek on my bottom holes, what else could i use?





Polyfil


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: djmako7]
    #10038413 - 03/25/09 11:50 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

If its still colonizing... Just cover the tyvek with tape then.. when its done colonizing stick polyfil in the holes for fruiting conditions.


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: djmako7]
    #10038459 - 03/25/09 12:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

have you all seen the mono tubs over at myco forums, people over there are simply using 1/4 inch whole at sub level and them some at the top of the tub and leaving em tapped up till colonized and then removing the tape and getting good results. We use polyfil because we use such big whole and its needed to hold the humidity up.

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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Doodle]
    #10038504 - 03/25/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ive used the 1/4 with good and bad results. I started doing em with 2 inch.. but I simply made too many... It didnt work out the best humidity wise.
1" is about perfect.


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10038535 - 03/25/09 12:14 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, one inch is whats on my tubs. three at sub level on both side and two at the top on the short ends.

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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question. POSTED A FEW PICS [Re: Doodle]
    #10043622 - 03/26/09 03:07 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ok i got some pics uploaded, this is my 3 diff set ups








those pics are the cam mono tub.


second setup is a shotgun FC.


this was first flush of kohs, pind like crazy


second flush not so great.


then my first pink buffalo in same FC.



then my other shotgun with 2 pans of cam.







i like this cluster lol



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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #10044424 - 03/26/09 08:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I think 1inchers are the best as well. It's just a question of how many holes to use based on the size of your tub.

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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: kjb1891]
    #10048008 - 03/26/09 06:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

yea mine are prolly 1 inch, 4 holes in each side


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Kendo]
    #10049267 - 03/26/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

64 qt bin, six 1 1/4" holes, two on each long side at substrate level, 1 on each short side high up.

Sinched up in a black trash bag during colonization, set in a room with ceiling fan running for fruiting.

NO MISTING, NO FANNING

9.25 OZ's  ... D-R-Y first flush.





Strain has a lot to do with it too. Drill holes in a tub set it in a room with a ceiling fan or a rotating oscillating fan on low. If it doesnt perform, get a different strain or clone one of the fruitbodies it DOES produce and start over. That fruitbody will like the conditions your giving it and the next run will be great.

The link to that grow is in my sig.

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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: OZZ]
    #10049458 - 03/26/09 09:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

now when u had it in ur room with ceiling fan on. what was humidity at? i hear mono tubs self sustain themselves but i dont think mine stays at 90-100% humidity, i got cool mist humidifiers in my bedroom so my room is at 60% all the time, but there has been a few times i open to fan and it looks dry.


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: OZZ]
    #10050236 - 03/26/09 11:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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The link to that grow is in my sig.




man i wish i could get some flushes like that, im new to the hobby so im still learning, but every since i learnd to put wax paper over the caseing it pumpd up the yield, but nothing like that, i bow to you, you're a god


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Re: a monotub question and a Koh casing question [Re: Kendo]
    #10050585 - 03/27/09 12:20 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

OK so noob and off topic question, so i got a few cams that are opening up in my mono tub, but the rest are small still, so I'm wondering can i take a pair of scissors and cut the caps off, and would the stems continue to to grow on? or would they die off?

and also all the pics i see on here the veils are open always they full grown and beautys, but my buddy was telling me that i should pick em b4 they open cuz it stops making the physcoactives in them and focus's on spores so they less potent, any truth to that or should i let them grow to be BEASTLY?


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